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Post by William Wilson on Jan 27, 2020 11:58:19 GMT
It`s too early for this. It`s like an episode of Dr Who. as long as we don't get into the Blinovitch Limitation Effect we should be ok
As for Greta and her advisers. I am not sure what the deal is. It's all very odd
However that doesn't mean the messages about changing the way we live and do things are irrelevant.
Who honestly doesn't believe we should waste less, recycle more and look at better, more environmentally friendly power sources etc
Well, absolutely. If only we could keep Oldie quiet. He must pump more hot air into the skies above Bristol, than the balloon fiesta.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 12:27:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 17:34:11 GMT
Frankly That's sick Nobby. FFS
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 27, 2020 21:32:31 GMT
Frankly That's sick Nobby. FFS funny though
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 27, 2020 21:33:37 GMT
Well she gets on my tits moaning away - don’t need her spouting off blaming everyone else
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Post by aghast on Jan 27, 2020 23:30:08 GMT
Why is belief in climate change linked to left and right wing opinions?
They shouldn't be, but they are.
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 28, 2020 7:47:36 GMT
Well she gets on my tits moaning away - don’t need her spouting off blaming everyone else I don`t dislike her. I just hope she`s wrong. Obvs. It`s the likes of Emma Thompson, I can`t bear. Last summer, flies from LA to London, makes a speech at Extinction Rebellion, then flies back to LA. Can she not see how that looks to ordinary people? Does she not care?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 7:54:39 GMT
Well she gets on my tits moaning away - don’t need her spouting off blaming everyone else I don`t dislike her. I just hope she`s wrong. Obvs. It`s the likes of Emma Thompson, I can`t bear. Last summer, flies from LA to London, makes a speech at Extinction Rebellion, then flies back to LA. Can she not see how that looks to ordinary people? Does she not care? She had the opportunity to have a microphone in front of her and appear on the tele. No luvvie will turn that down.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 8:13:20 GMT
Greta moans about the older generation 'ruining her life'. We used to have milk delivered in glass bottles. When empty, you gave them a quick wash and put them back on the doorstep for the milkman to take away, and re-use. Re-cycling at it's best. The milkman also used an electric float to deliver the milk. No plastic cartons or wax-lined cartons. Fruit and veg was packed into paper. No plastic wrapping around any of it. Women used trolleys for their shopping. They had no need to have bags of plastic. There were no fast food outlets. Burger King, MacDonald', KFC etc didn't exist. The 'school run' didn't exist. You either walked or rode a bike to school, come rain or shine. Washing was dried on the line using natural solar and wind power. No dryers were used. We didn't need a hand-held device to receive a signal from outer space to tell us that the nearest restaurant/shop etc was 200 yards away.
There are probably many many more examples.
If anything, Greta's generation has a lot to learn from the older generation.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 28, 2020 8:23:24 GMT
Greta moans about the older generation 'ruining her life'. We used to have milk delivered in glass bottles. When empty, you gave them a quick wash and put them back on the doorstep for the milkman to take away, and re-use. Re-cycling at it's best. The milkman also used an electric float to deliver the milk. No plastic cartons or wax-lined cartons. Fruit and veg was packed into paper. No plastic wrapping around any of it. Women used trolleys for their shopping. They had no need to have bags of plastic. There were no fast food outlets. Burger King, MacDonald', KFC etc didn't exist. The 'school run' didn't exist. You either walked or rode a bike to school, come rain or shine. Washing was dried on the line using natural solar and wind power. No dryers were used. We didn't need a hand-held device to receive a signal from outer space to tell us that the nearest restaurant/shop etc was 200 yards away. There are probably many many more examples. If anything, Greta's generation has a lot to learn from the older generation. Not sure it is that generation she is referring to. Besides, she is 17 so anyone over 40 is the older generation so really the likes of us not our grandparents. My concern is that she over does the rhetoric and puts off those she is trying to influence. At least she is trying to do something.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 28, 2020 9:13:25 GMT
Well she gets on my tits moaning away - don’t need her spouting off blaming everyone else I don`t dislike her. I just hope she`s wrong. Obvs. It`s the likes of Emma Thompson, I can`t bear. Last summer, flies from LA to London, makes a speech at Extinction Rebellion, then flies back to LA. Can she not see how that looks to ordinary people? Does she not care? most of us care and understand but her blaming everyone older grinds my gears
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 28, 2020 9:27:25 GMT
Greta moans about the older generation 'ruining her life'. We used to have milk delivered in glass bottles. When empty, you gave them a quick wash and put them back on the doorstep for the milkman to take away, and re-use. Re-cycling at it's best. The milkman also used an electric float to deliver the milk. No plastic cartons or wax-lined cartons. Fruit and veg was packed into paper. No plastic wrapping around any of it. Women used trolleys for their shopping. They had no need to have bags of plastic. There were no fast food outlets. Burger King, MacDonald', KFC etc didn't exist. The 'school run' didn't exist. You either walked or rode a bike to school, come rain or shine. Washing was dried on the line using natural solar and wind power. No dryers were used. We didn't need a hand-held device to receive a signal from outer space to tell us that the nearest restaurant/shop etc was 200 yards away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 11:45:55 GMT
Greta moans about the older generation 'ruining her life'. We used to have milk delivered in glass bottles. When empty, you gave them a quick wash and put them back on the doorstep for the milkman to take away, and re-use. Re-cycling at it's best. The milkman also used an electric float to deliver the milk. No plastic cartons or wax-lined cartons. Fruit and veg was packed into paper. No plastic wrapping around any of it. Women used trolleys for their shopping. They had no need to have bags of plastic. There were no fast food outlets. Burger King, MacDonald', KFC etc didn't exist. The 'school run' didn't exist. You either walked or rode a bike to school, come rain or shine. Washing was dried on the line using natural solar and wind power. No dryers were used. We didn't need a hand-held device to receive a signal from outer space to tell us that the nearest restaurant/shop etc was 200 yards away. There are probably many many more examples. If anything, Greta's generation has a lot to learn from the older generation. "Women used trolleys for their shopping. They had no need to have bags of plastic." That made me laugh. What did the men use...a bit if a give away there. But I agree with what you say. In essence, people are going to have to get used to "going local" again to help resolve this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 11:48:36 GMT
Greta moans about the older generation 'ruining her life'. We used to have milk delivered in glass bottles. When empty, you gave them a quick wash and put them back on the doorstep for the milkman to take away, and re-use. Re-cycling at it's best. The milkman also used an electric float to deliver the milk. No plastic cartons or wax-lined cartons. Fruit and veg was packed into paper. No plastic wrapping around any of it. Women used trolleys for their shopping. They had no need to have bags of plastic. There were no fast food outlets. Burger King, MacDonald', KFC etc didn't exist. The 'school run' didn't exist. You either walked or rode a bike to school, come rain or shine. Washing was dried on the line using natural solar and wind power. No dryers were used. We didn't need a hand-held device to receive a signal from outer space to tell us that the nearest restaurant/shop etc was 200 yards away. Didn't the Two Ronnie's have an hilarious send up of that ad?
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Post by althepirate on Jan 28, 2020 11:49:25 GMT
Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment,. The woman apologized to the young girl and explained, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days." The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations." The older lady said that she was right our generation didn't have the "green thing" in its day. The older lady went on toexplain: Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day. Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags that we reused for numerous things. Most memorable besides household garbage bags was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our school books. This was to ensure that public property (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags. But, too bad we didn't do the "green thing" back then. We walked up stairs because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the "green thing" in our day. Back then we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts. Wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day. Back then we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right; we didn't have the "green thing" back then. We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blade in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the "green thing" back then. Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service in the family's $45,000 SUV or van, which cost what a whole house did before the "green thing." We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint. But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the "green thing" back then? Please forward this on to another selfish old person who needs a lesson in conservation from a smart ass young person. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to water us off... Especially from a tattooed, multiple pierced smartass who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 12:08:55 GMT
Greta moans about the older generation 'ruining her life'. We used to have milk delivered in glass bottles. When empty, you gave them a quick wash and put them back on the doorstep for the milkman to take away, and re-use. Re-cycling at it's best. The milkman also used an electric float to deliver the milk. No plastic cartons or wax-lined cartons. Fruit and veg was packed into paper. No plastic wrapping around any of it. Women used trolleys for their shopping. They had no need to have bags of plastic. There were no fast food outlets. Burger King, MacDonald', KFC etc didn't exist. The 'school run' didn't exist. You either walked or rode a bike to school, come rain or shine. Washing was dried on the line using natural solar and wind power. No dryers were used. We didn't need a hand-held device to receive a signal from outer space to tell us that the nearest restaurant/shop etc was 200 yards away. There are probably many many more examples. If anything, Greta's generation has a lot to learn from the older generation. "Women used trolleys for their shopping. They had no need to have bags of plastic." That made me laugh. What did the men use...a bit if a give away there. But I agree with what you say. In essence, people are going to have to get used to "going local" again to help resolve this. Believe it or not, here in Germany the shopping trolley is still widely used !
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 28, 2020 12:43:19 GMT
She's got grown men on a football forum talking about the environment and climate change.
I'd say that's job done.
Classy thread by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 12:51:03 GMT
She's got grown men on a football forum talking about the environment and climate change. I'd say that's job done. Classy thread by the way. Nobody is denying that there are things that need discussing.
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Post by aghast on Jan 29, 2020 20:52:01 GMT
The school run is an interesting one. I remember leaving Rodway (now Mangotsfield) school every day and the view as we left the school gates was the glorious vista of Rodway Common.
Oh, and a gang of boys from Chase School waiting to beat us up.
When I drive past the school at kicking-out time now, it's a sea of 4x4s, queueing up to jostle for a parking space so Mum can give little Chantelle and Jordan a lift home, sparing them the 25 minute walk, and saving them from all the horrific dangers in the world.
Kids never seem to walk anywhere now. Very sad and wasteful.
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