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Post by clampdown on Feb 29, 2020 21:57:16 GMT
The only positive today was Daly looked good when he came on. Should've started up top with JCH.
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Post by socrates on Feb 29, 2020 22:01:49 GMT
The only positive today was Daly looked good when he came on. Should've started up top with JCH. We’ve got to start with two up top . My 6 year daughter could see that over the last 16 games having one up front is killing us. It’s starting to get to the point where it’s coming down to sheer bloody mindedness or stupidity to still be playing JCH up front on his own with two young kids out wide. Garner said when he arrived that he’d seen all of our games this season. If that’s the the case then how the hell has he come to the conclusion that he’s at his best on his own up front ?!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 22:19:43 GMT
Leahy lacked determination
upson lacked determination
clarke lacked determination
Ginelly lacked determination
Abraham lacked determination
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 29, 2020 22:50:47 GMT
Nobody lacked determination when GC was in charge. They wouldn't have dared!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 1, 2020 0:10:58 GMT
Memo to oneself 'avoid this forum for the near future!!' Yes Halifax that’s what I’ve done this evening. 😭 Wasn’t there today so don’t like to comment on performances I haven’t seen but it sounds pretty bad. But in terms of the big picture (which is easier for me to say having not had to watch the match) axegas is right about giving him time to change the style. So fair play to him for taking the stick he has tonight but whereas GC adopted the style he did to suit the players he had, BG has tried to change the style without the players to do it. I guess that comes with experience. Whatever, in the end you can talk about giving him time to change styles and a pre-season to train the players into the style but you’ve got to get results whilst you do that. He might have had a free hit in that we won’t get relegated but you can’t expect fans to turn up and watch poor results and poor performances. Paying to watch and spend their good money isn’t a free hit for fans in these times. He needs some wins now to survive until the summer when he might be able to change things. He knows more about football than me obviously but like others, I think he needs to play a simple 442 for the forseeable future. UTG! |
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 0:33:09 GMT
We were terrible today - no doubt. But again horrible blustery conditions and their big goliaths at the back swarming all over our flimsy attacks.
What's really worrying me is our inability to get the ball near their box to create chances.
I believe it was 4 shots - with only 1 on target and 1 corner - pretty much the same as v Sunderland. we are going to score very few goals and lose plenty if something doesn't change.
JCH needs a forward up there with him - 4-4 -2 or 3-5 -2.
Leahy struggles as a full back - Ive noticed that THD has been on the bench the last 2 games so he must be fit - how is he not in the side ahead of Leahy ??
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 0:46:17 GMT
So it was Ollie Clarke with the header well saved in the 2nd.
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Post by Strange Gas on Mar 1, 2020 10:29:29 GMT
Can’t be right shrews in a similar colour? I’m pretty colour blind (about 10% of men are) so could only distinguish players by socks at distance with their backs to me, but know of others that aren’t I was with that also said it was hard, esp with sun in your eyes. Wonder if may have accounted for some of the woeful passing, on both sides tbf. |
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Post by yategasman on Mar 1, 2020 10:51:29 GMT
Can’t be right shrews in a similar colour? I’m pretty colour blind (about 10% of men are) so could only distinguish players by socks at distance with their backs to me, but know of others that aren’t I was with that also said it was hard, esp with sun in your eyes. Wonder if may have accounted for some of the woeful passing, on both sides tbf. Yeah when you have two crap teams dressed almost the same add in a dodgy ref and an even dodgier Lino (west stand) along with 10% of an already depressed home crowd being colour blind (as I am) I suppose in hindsight it was bound to be a bit of a damp squib 😜 |
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 12:40:50 GMT
No disrespect to Shrewsbury, but how crap has a team got to be before we take 3 points off them?
Our midfield are completely useless. Clarke, Upson and sorry to say, Sercombe, are just not up to it. It's like starting with 8 men.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:17:31 GMT
I’m pretty colour blind (about 10% of men are) so could only distinguish players by socks at distance with their backs to me, but know of others that aren’t I was with that also said it was hard, esp with sun in your eyes. Wonder if may have accounted for some of the woeful passing, on both sides tbf. Yeah when you have two crap teams dressed almost the same add in a dodgy ref and an even dodgier Lino (west stand) along with 10% of an already depressed home crowd being colour blind (as I am) I suppose in hindsight it was bound to be a bit of a damp squib 😜 why was ref dodgy ? cos we lost ? |
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:19:11 GMT
No disrespect to Shrewsbury, but how crap has a team got to be before we take 3 points off them? Our midfield are completely useless. Clarke, Upson and sorry to say, Sercombe, are just not up to it. It's like starting with 8 men. Sercombe missed a month of footie and had no reserve game to build himself up, then had to play in those windy conditions with a team playing poorly. Cut him some slack !! |
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 13:20:59 GMT
No disrespect to Shrewsbury, but how crap has a team got to be before we take 3 points off them? Our midfield are completely useless. Clarke, Upson and sorry to say, Sercombe, are just not up to it. It's like starting with 8 men. Sercombe missed a month of footie and had no reserve game to build himself up, then had to play in those windy conditions with a team playing poorly. Cut him some slack !! I did say sorry about including him, but he was poor yesterday. They all were, but he was part of a midfield that contributed nothing. |
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Post by markczgas on Mar 1, 2020 13:30:32 GMT
Sercombe missed a month of footie and had no reserve game to build himself up, then had to play in those windy conditions with a team playing poorly. Cut him some slack !! I did say sorry about including him, but he was poor yesterday. They all were, but he was part of a midfield that contributed nothing. It sounded like they are all not up to it. Sercombe is up to it, and Upson was definitely up to it before Xmas. The team, with this poor run, are now lacking confidence -it's clear to see. I pray to god we see off Southend (a strong win would be very useful) and perhaps then confidence will return to our key - Kilgour, Craig, Upson, Sercombe and JCH. |
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 13:40:35 GMT
I did say sorry about including him, but he was poor yesterday. They all were, but he was part of a midfield that contributed nothing. It sounded like they are all not up to it. Sercombe is up to it, and Upson was definitely up to it before Xmas. The team, with this poor run, are now lacking confidence -it's clear to see. I pray to god we see off Southend (a strong win would be very useful) and perhaps then confidence will return to our key - Kilgour, Craig, Upson, Sercombe and JCH. It was a very, very poor performance, by all. But the midfield is totally ineffective. 3 points against Southend is a must as Ipswich and Sunderland are going to tear us apart. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 1, 2020 14:04:02 GMT
I did say sorry about including him, but he was poor yesterday. They all were, but he was part of a midfield that contributed nothing. It sounded like they are all not up to it. Sercombe is up to it, and Upson was definitely up to it before Xmas. The team, with this poor run, are now lacking confidence -it's clear to see. I pray to god we see off Southend (a strong win would be very useful) and perhaps then confidence will return to our key - Kilgour, Craig, Upson, Sercombe and JCH. Yep. I don’t hold players to account for this. These are the same lads who had us in 4th at Christmas. only one person responsible. |
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Post by baggins on Mar 1, 2020 14:13:37 GMT
It sounded like they are all not up to it. Sercombe is up to it, and Upson was definitely up to it before Xmas. The team, with this poor run, are now lacking confidence -it's clear to see. I pray to god we see off Southend (a strong win would be very useful) and perhaps then confidence will return to our key - Kilgour, Craig, Upson, Sercombe and JCH. Yep. I don’t hold players to account for this. These are the same lads who had us in 4th at Christmas. only one person responsible. You're saying they're playing crap because of BG? Watching yesterday, I'd have to disagree. That performance was down to players not playing well. And it's not for the first time since BG took over. |
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Post by knowall on Mar 1, 2020 14:17:46 GMT
Can’t be right shrews in a similar colour? I’m pretty colour blind (about 10% of men are) so could only distinguish players by socks at distance with their backs to me, but know of others that aren’t I was with that also said it was hard, esp with sun in your eyes. Wonder if may have accounted for some of the woeful passing, on both sides tbf.It was easy to tell them apart - we were the team that lost |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 1, 2020 14:21:22 GMT
Yep. I don’t hold players to account for this. These are the same lads who had us in 4th at Christmas. only one person responsible. You're saying they're playing crap because of BG? Watching yesterday, I'd have to disagree. That performance was down to players not playing well. And it's not for the first time since BG took over. Yep. They’re not playing well because of the tactics, they’re not playing well as he’s clearly not a man manager who can motivate his team. GC, love him or loathe him, was great at this. Whilst they had sh** games under GC and before him DC, GC had a knack of getting them prepared to grind out results, even if the performance was disappointing. BG is a textbook manager and has been found out. Time to go. It’ll probably need a talented manager of a similar mould to GC to sort these lot out (not saying Warnock but a Warnock type - I’d love him for a multitude of reasons but he just wants his 12 matches and I want a long term appointment) but BG hasn’t given any demonstration he could prepare a team to compete next season. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 1, 2020 14:21:40 GMT
I’m pretty colour blind (about 10% of men are) so could only distinguish players by socks at distance with their backs to me, but know of others that aren’t I was with that also said it was hard, esp with sun in your eyes. Wonder if may have accounted for some of the woeful passing, on both sides tbf.It was easy to tell them apart - we were the team that lost Shrewsbury could have played in high vis vests and it wouldn't have made any difference. Shrewsbury also had the same 'problem'. Think we are looking for excuses that arent there. |
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