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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2020 17:08:55 GMT
What has taken the SC so long to speak up? That is a good point Hugo and I’m not going to defend them for that. They’ve clearly been concerned since Jan 2019 at least and should have been far quicker and stronger to react. I do worry too about the quality of the people at the top and it would be good if the leadership was more dynamic and probably younger but I don’t doubt their motives as being driven by anything more than being very concerned about the welfare of the FC and they are in a much better place to know what’s really going on than us ordinary fans. What's their solution if Wael now decides he can't be bothered with the hassle of running the club? I can't see Jim Chappell, the same person who didn't even notice that £150K had been taken by one of his follow committee members, can hope to contend with club debts of £20m? Why did he keep quiet in the past when NH took us out of the football league for the first time and very nearly to admin? Just when it seems we all need to be pulling together to keep the club afloat the SC/PC seems to be doing their best to pull it apart.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Apr 3, 2020 17:11:12 GMT
My main question is what are they trying to get out of it?
It's not as if the EFL can "sack" Wael! My understanding is that there is nothing they can do, so again what are they trying to get out of it?
The alleged non delivery of Supporters share certificates/Receipts would be a serious issue which may be Fraudulent.
The main word there is "alleged". Lets not forget, there's only one side putting all their dirty laundry out in public...
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2020 17:12:04 GMT
My main question is what are they trying to get out of it?
It's not as if the EFL can "sack" Wael! My understanding is that there is nothing they can do, so again what are they trying to get out of it?
The alleged non delivery of Supporters share certificates/Receipts would be a serious issue which may be Fraudulent. Why is it fraudulent? It's not like Wael's secretly sold the shares on to someone else?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 3, 2020 17:13:32 GMT
That is a good point Hugo and I’m not going to defend them for that. They’ve clearly been concerned since Jan 2019 at least and should have been far quicker and stronger to react. I do worry too about the quality of the people at the top and it would be good if the leadership was more dynamic and probably younger but I don’t doubt their motives as being driven by anything more than being very concerned about the welfare of the FC and they are in a much better place to know what’s really going on than us ordinary fans. What's their solution if Wael now decides he can't be bothered with the hassle of running the club? I can't see Jim Chappell, the same person who didn't even notice that £150K had been taken by one of his follow committee members, can hope to contend with club debts of £20m? Why did he keep quiet in the past when NH took us out of the football league for the first time and very nearly to admin? Just when it seems we all need to be pulling together to keep the club afloat the SC/PC seems to be doing their best to pull it apart. You’d have to think Topper that they’re piping up now because there is a real alternative available and maybe they think WAQ is a blocker to that alternative?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 3, 2020 17:15:51 GMT
What's their solution if Wael now decides he can't be bothered with the hassle of running the club? I can't see Jim Chappell, the same person who didn't even notice that £150K had been taken by one of his follow committee members, can hope to contend with club debts of £20m? Why did he keep quiet in the past when NH took us out of the football league for the first time and very nearly to admin? Just when it seems we all need to be pulling together to keep the club afloat the SC/PC seems to be doing their best to pull it apart. You’d have to think Topper that they’re piping up now because there is a real alternative available and maybe they think WAQ is a blocker to that alternative? Weve been spun that lie before. Frankly, if the alternative is the SC, Hamer and Masters then I think I'll stick with WAQ!
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 3, 2020 17:18:56 GMT
You’d have to think Topper that they’re piping up now because there is a real alternative available and maybe they think WAQ is a blocker to that alternative? Weve been spun that lie before. Frankly, if the alternative is the SC, Hamer and Masters then I think I'll stick with WAQ! I wasn’t surmising that was the alternative! It’s probably to do with the Fruit Market given that the local journo’s think that plan is still alive.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 3, 2020 17:19:05 GMT
What exactly are the SC hoping to achieve with this. If our current owner says right I am not wanted and decides that is it. What then And that is the point isn’t it? What are the SC hoping to achieve? If successful and Wael decides to stop funding us and just accepts his losses, what is their plan for our survival? I’m not supporting the owners any more than the SC/PC, it’s a total mess being made worse daily. Both are clearly disfunctional. I hope there are some wealthy, gasheads who have our well-being at heart out there waiting to step into this mess. UTG!
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2020 17:20:27 GMT
Question for members of the SC - Are you guilty of malicious persecution ? If this thread wasn't so serious this comment would be laughable. KM was removed with no reason given. Malicious prosecution? But on a more serious note, I hope to god nothing criminal has gone on, and I would like to think nothing has. If it's to do with the inept way the club is being run well that's something else. I Dam hate you as a poster. You and your fantasist SC mates. I hate your continually poisonous bullshit on here and anywhere you can spread it. Why don't you all f**k off and club together to buy Larkhall FC so you can live out your Walter Mitty dreams of being football club owners and leave BRFC alone you deluded, self promoting, circle-w**king, dinosaurs.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 3, 2020 17:22:35 GMT
If this thread wasn't so serious this comment would be laughable. KM was removed with no reason given. Malicious prosecution? But on a more serious note, I hope to god nothing criminal has gone on, and I would like to think nothing has. If it's to do with the inept way the club is being run well that's something else. I f**king hate you as a poster. You and your fantasist SC mates. I hate your continually poisonous bullshit on here and anywhere you can spread it. Why don't you all f**k off and club together to buy Larkhall FC so you can live out your Walter Mitty dreams of being football club owners and leave BRFC alone you deluded, self promoting, circle-w**king, dinosaurs. Dont sugar coat it. Say what's on your mind.
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Post by dragonfly on Apr 3, 2020 17:30:28 GMT
The alleged non delivery of Supporters share certificates/Receipts would be a serious issue which may be Fraudulent. Why is it fraudulent? It's not like Wael's secretly sold the shares on to someone else? Because the share certificate is proof that you have invested money in the Club. JC has stated that no Certs have been delivered since the DS takeover which is four years and many requests have been submitted but still no resolution. What possible reason could DS have for non compliance for 4 years? Did I hear someone joke about a boiler room scam.
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Post by gas2 on Apr 3, 2020 17:36:07 GMT
What is the point of this the only person bankrolling the club being reported for not being fit to run and put money in the rovers being reported to the league ffs get real
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 3, 2020 17:40:29 GMT
If this thread wasn't so serious this comment would be laughable. KM was removed with no reason given. Malicious prosecution? But on a more serious note, I hope to god nothing criminal has gone on, and I would like to think nothing has. If it's to do with the inept way the club is being run well that's something else. I f**king hate you as a poster. You and your fantasist SC mates. I hate your continually poisonous bullshit on here and anywhere you can spread it. Why don't you all f**k off and club together to buy Larkhall FC so you can live out your Walter Mitty dreams of being football club owners and leave BRFC alone you deluded, self promoting, circle-w**king, dinosaurs. The problem is, and always has been.... What if they are right? The sh**ty way some people are conducting themselves may be clouding a real issue.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 3, 2020 17:42:30 GMT
What is the point of this the only person bankrolling the club being reported for not being fit to run and put money in the rovers being reported to the league ffs get real They’re bored after just one week of lock down
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Post by Gassy on Apr 3, 2020 17:46:24 GMT
I f**king hate you as a poster. You and your fantasist SC mates. I hate your continually poisonous bullshit on here and anywhere you can spread it. Why don't you all f**k off and club together to buy Larkhall FC so you can live out your Walter Mitty dreams of being football club owners and leave BRFC alone you deluded, self promoting, circle-w**king, dinosaurs. The problem is, and always has been.... What if they are right? The sh**ty way some people are conducting themselves may be clouding a real issue. But have they ever been right about anything? Genuine question btw
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:01:04 GMT
This thread is all b@ll@x. I know because it was said so at the blue diamond lunch. I have hundreds of witnesses. Love it.
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 3, 2020 18:03:26 GMT
Um - not really no. Not really linked at all in all honesty. The board's job is to continue to provide the day-to-day finance to enable BRFC to remain solvent - currently factually accurate. The supporters job is to support the team and club ideally through the purchasing of tickets/merchandising - currently factually accurate (well baring COVID-19 lockdown) The SCs job is to speak for their members and to ensure that their members views are canvassed and fed back to the board appropriately. I'll leave you to work out which one is incorrect. The board have accumulated so much debt that insolvency on our current trajectory is a certainty. The SC and the PC can see this and try to do something whilst we have people like you cheering from the sidelines as WAQi sets course for oblivion. You have more in common with Sh1!heads yet call yourself a Rovers fan! Who needs enemies when we have fans like you. Like all clubs then. Are all clubs reporting there owners??? You mention city, but what about the £40 million in bank loans they took out? Have they been reported? The supporter's club just like the power and are old School. Trying to put off new people joining, as they want to be the ones trying to get into meetings. Now this. Do you know what they are trying to achieve?? If they say Wael isn't fit and proper, where do they go from there? They don't have a clue what they are doing and are probably still too close to old board members etc. This is like something they would do, like trying to sue Sainsbury's.
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Post by gas2 on Apr 3, 2020 18:07:48 GMT
Anybody remember back in the 60s when the club and the sc fell out back to the future then
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:09:50 GMT
This thread is all b@ll@x. I know because it was said so at the blue diamond lunch. I have hundreds of witnesses. Love it. Seriously
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Post by spiess1 on Apr 3, 2020 18:13:32 GMT
Anybody remember back in the 60s when the club and the sc fell out back to the future then Plus ça change.
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Post by gasincider on Apr 3, 2020 18:14:10 GMT
So let's look at the timeline - 10/17 BSS resigns 03/18 £3m loss announced 03/19 KM attends last board meeting 05/19 £3.4m loss announced 11/19 SH leaves 01/20 KM suspended 03/20 £3.4m loss announced 04/20 KM resigns, the SC and PC support him and report WAQ to the EFL for not being fit and proper. So Rovers lost almost £10m during this period. The main question is why the hell have KM, the SC and the PC waited this long to go public? Are you aware of the contents of the letter? Have they accused him of not being fit and proper? Well?
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