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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 19, 2020 19:36:53 GMT
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Post by amgas on Apr 19, 2020 20:24:58 GMT
The Accrington chairman does seem to be the go to point for negativity.
Not really sure football behind closed doors is going to be any more risky than many other jobs that people will have to return to.
Whilst we might have more chance of keeping a little distance in an office or a factory, we will be sharing the same building and facilities and there is always going to be a chance of infecting each other. Yes there is a chance a football player might get injured, but is that not true in many jobs ? Even travelling to work means we could all end up in A&E - anyone who travels regularly on a motorway will have seen plenty of people collected by ambulances.
Much of that article is just nonsense - Am I going to stay in a hotel with all my work mates ? Not sure why we would expect football players to do so. And even if they did would all the hotel staff stay there and never go home ? The statement that it takes 300-500 people in a stadium to play a match behind closed doors is also pretty comical.
Unless we are all going to remain in lock down there is going to be risk in everything anyone does.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 19, 2020 21:37:05 GMT
How will the EFL deal with clubs that evoke the “Bolton Clause” on resumption of the season.
That is, not able to fulfil a fixture due to illness, suspected illness or mental health issues.
What happens if a club fails to fulfil a fixture due to players going unpaid again
The season could go on and on.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 20, 2020 9:00:06 GMT
amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/apr/20/uk-coronavirus-live-boris-johnson-against-lifting-lockdown-over-second-wave-fearsI know I bang on about this but I can’t help feel that the Premier League and EFL are swimming against the tide of government opinion. This is doing players and fans no favours at all. Players and staff at our level should now have been furloughed and the club closed down. As there is no prospect of next season being started clubs shouldn’t be taking money for season tickets. A loan scheme for fans to pay into would be more appropriate with the loans being repaid with season tickets if that is what the fan chooses. I don’t blame the club, they’re being lead by the nose by the PL & EFL and I think their behaviour is becoming a bit deceitful.
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Post by axegas on Apr 20, 2020 10:46:37 GMT
This whole Coronavirus situation has come at the worst possible time for sport because it's managed to disrupt the winter sport's seasons to the point where they can't finish whilst simultaneously cancelling an incredibly busy summer of sport with the Euros and the Olympics that were due to go ahead.
From a position of selfishness, I don't really care if the season is cancelled now. Rovers have nothing leaning on the last part of the season, no interesting games and not even a side that has anything to get me excited about.
As a complete one off, I think the sporting governing bodies should award promotions and relegations based on the current standings, we've played enough of the season to determine who the better sides are and who are looking like going down and restarting just has too many risks involved to really make it feasible in the next 3/4 months, it's completely at odds with government advice.
There will be winners and losers of course, clubs that will spit the dummy out over being out of the playoffs by goal difference but I'd much rather that happen then the Coronavirus spreading and taking even more lives by restarting too soon or this season not being completed until 4/5 months time.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 20, 2020 11:15:05 GMT
I don’t disagree with the morality of what you say axegas but the legal side of things is a mess.
There are rules in place to deal with postponed or abandoned games but not seasons. I don’t think any awards can be made in this abandoned season without big legal problems. I think the easiest legal argument for the PL and EFL to have will be the season was abandoned due to extraordinary circumstances beyond anyone’s control or ability to foresee.
Once the PL and EFL have exhausted every possible way of carrying on for purely financial reasons this will be the route they go down.
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Post by Gassy on Apr 21, 2020 10:08:23 GMT
Football in Germany could restart as early as 9th May - state leaders and football officials have suggested matches could go on behind closed doors under strict new hygiene measures - BBC
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 21, 2020 10:25:28 GMT
Germany is not really relevant to the UK as they seem to have CV under far better control, not sure how true is given it was The Sun suggesting yesterday that apparently L2 clubs want their league treated as null & void as they can't afford to offer extended players contracts for those whose contracts are due to end on the 30 June. Apparently players will take 3 weeks to regain match fitness so the earliest games could recommence is around the end of May.
There's also talk football grounds etc will be closed until at least the autumn, so it's not even clear what's even going to happen at the start of next season, I assume a few months of games behind closed doors.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 21, 2020 11:10:36 GMT
Germany is not really relevant to the UK as they seem to have CV under far better control, not sure how true is given it was The Sun suggesting yesterday that apparently L2 clubs want their league treated as null & void as they can't afford to offer extended players contracts for those whose contracts are due to end on the 30 June. Apparently players will take 3 weeks to regain match fitness so the earliest games could recommence is around the end of May. There's also talk football grounds etc will be closed until at least the autumn, so it's not even clear what's even going to happen at the start of next season, I assume a few months of games behind closed doors. The UK is about as far behind Germany as we are behind the C££y when it comes to infrastructure and health investment so probably best we don’t use them as a yard stick. It’s always been apparent that L2 will pack it in null & void first then the rest will follow upwards until the Premier League are clinging onto the last penny they can extract from the customer. We have to remember that the organisations that own English football are fighting their own battles at home, in, USA, Russia, The Middle and Far East so they are very keen to remove as much money from the UK economy before depression strikes. |
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Post by lpgas on Apr 22, 2020 12:25:47 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 22, 2020 12:50:50 GMT
Or what he really meant to say is "if I can somehow convince the EFL to scrap this season then we'll survive in the Championship for another season" It's odd only the likes of Bowyer, Brady and the Accrington boss are speaking out against football re-starting!! |
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 22, 2020 13:14:20 GMT
Or what he really meant to say is "if I can somehow convince the EFL to scrap this season then we'll survive in the Championship for another season" It's odd only the likes of Bowyer, Brady and the Accrington boss are speaking out against football re-starting!! Just for you Topper, won’t be long now |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 22, 2020 13:23:20 GMT
"The league said there was a "clear majority of clubs in favour" from the almost 90% of responses returned."
Does that mean 7 or 8 teams didn't bother to reply?
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Post by amgas on Apr 22, 2020 13:38:53 GMT
Don't suppose the national league can decide on promotion until the football league decide. I honestly think if you end the season now you can't promote or relegate teams - we all know things can change right up to the last game of the season.
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 22, 2020 13:40:47 GMT
In my opinion this season will not finish.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 22, 2020 13:41:11 GMT
Don't suppose the national league can decide on promotion until the football league decide. I honestly think if you end the season now you can't promote or relegate teams - we all know things can change right up to the last game of the season. Looks like Bolton will get away with murder again! |
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Post by lpgas on Apr 27, 2020 21:47:22 GMT
If we start thei season again. Bolton should still have the points deduction and Bury should be back!!
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