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Post by stuart1974 on May 7, 2020 23:17:49 GMT
Happy VE Day, 75 years of peace and a deep appreciation of a generation sadly dwindling in numbers.
Plus the 75th anniversary of VJ Day to come later this year.
(No politics please, this is to say thanks or for any stories and anecdotes).
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 8:01:14 GMT
Happy VE Day, 75 years of peace and a deep appreciation of a generation sadly dwindling in numbers. Plus the 75th anniversary of VJ Day to come later this year. (No politics please, this is to say thanks or for any stories and anecdotes). My Father was a country boy from Berkeley who ran away at 15 to join the Royal Navy. He served as a Stoker on Destroyers for the Arctic Convoys. After the war ended he only told one story, where he was part of a team that was put on a German Submarine as the Submarine was being taken into a friendly port. I have no idea of the location,port etc. He said that they were given bayonets and they had to stand behind the German crew as the submarine traveled on the surface. His orders were basically if he saw any of the German crew doing something that he thought was wrong to stick the bayonet in them ! My Dad, my hero.
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Post by Marshy on May 8, 2020 8:55:29 GMT
I’ve already mentioned this on another thread, but my dad lost a leg at Dunkirk and was only 19. He was real old school and would never talk about it and it was indeed mum who told us what had happened to him, a different generation and very brave men and women. We have some sort of street party kicking off at midday today (not sure how it’s going to work though? 😁) but I shall be raising a glass at 3pm to all of our brave souls!
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Post by stuart1974 on May 8, 2020 9:15:09 GMT
I’ve already mentioned this on another thread, but my dad lost a leg at Dunkirk and was only 19. He was real old school and would never talk about it and it was indeed mum who told us what had happened to him, a different generation and very brave men and women. We have some sort of street party kicking off at midday today (not sure how it’s going to work though? 😁) but I shall be raising a glass at 3pm to all of our brave souls! I've just finished Julian Thompson's book on Dunkirk. They went through Hell so hat's off to your dad.
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Post by Marshy on May 8, 2020 9:19:08 GMT
I’ve already mentioned this on another thread, but my dad lost a leg at Dunkirk and was only 19. He was real old school and would never talk about it and it was indeed mum who told us what had happened to him, a different generation and very brave men and women. We have some sort of street party kicking off at midday today (not sure how it’s going to work though? 😁) but I shall be raising a glass at 3pm to all of our brave souls! I've just finished Julian Thompson's book on Dunkirk. They went through Hell so hat's off to your dad. And to top it all he had a bullet hole right through and out the other side of his good foot! Poor kids (and that’s what most of them were) they must have been terrified.
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Post by trevorgas on May 8, 2020 10:16:42 GMT
I’ve already mentioned this on another thread, but my dad lost a leg at Dunkirk and was only 19. He was real old school and would never talk about it and it was indeed mum who told us what had happened to him, a different generation and very brave men and women. We have some sort of street party kicking off at midday today (not sure how it’s going to work though? 😁) but I shall be raising a glass at 3pm to all of our brave souls! Me to my Dad was a Royal Navy medic who went ashore with the first wave of Americans at Omaha,he was just 20 and what he saw and did changed his life from being very religious to an atheist and then spent all his working life in the NHS. Spoke very little about it until the later years of his life almost like an unburdening. He's been gone 4 years so I will toast him and all those young men who's dedication delivered the freedom we have today.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 8, 2020 10:21:40 GMT
Good job the victory wasn't won in Denmark for naming purposes..
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 13:12:11 GMT
Important to remember & celebrate the innocent men & women killed through war.
My grandad was the same as others have said, never talked about WW2 and would leave the room if anything war related came on to the TV, even when he was 96!
We are so fortunate that we weren't occupied like most of Europe.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 13:23:13 GMT
Important to remember & celebrate the innocent men & women killed through war. My grandad was the same as others have said, never talked about WW2 and would leave the room if anything war related came on to the TV, even when he was 96! We are so fortunate that we weren't occupied like most of Europe. My uncle who I was very close to, told me stories of his time in WW2. He joined the RAF and was training to be in a Bomber Squadron as a gunner. It was there that they discovered he was colour blind and his ability to identify plane markings was more than suspect. He was transferred to the Marines and saw action in Greece. He told me stories of fighting communists there. Which I found out many years later was ironic as he was a fully paid up member of Communist Party. It did put our conversations into context. I was, am, so proud of him. Sadly he passed away in Bristol alone, in the 1980s. He also introduced me to Bass....
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 13:43:32 GMT
To give a perspective "from the other side":
My Nan was German and grew up during the war in Silesia Eastern Germany. Her family had no truck with National Socialism. She told me about how her family had taken on a Polish girl as a maid and as things grew more politically volatile they ended up protecting her from the Nazis. Her dad expected the worst if word got out about her to the point where he told the family that if the SS came in the night for him they were to run and hide. Such was the culture of fear that ordinary citizens lived in in Nazi Germany. Her dad was in hospital having an operation when the Russians came. My Nan's family had to leave at once and leave him behind, their village was near a bridge and they had to make it across that bridge before it was sabotaged. They hadn't got far when they realised they had left some bread behind, so two of my Nan's sisters went back to the house to get it, promising to catch them up. Her sisters ended up running into a Russian patrol and they had to hide from the Russians in barrels. Unfortunately they were found and brutally raped by the Russians. My Nan never saw them again for decades. There is so much more- my Nan passed away last year and to this day I kick myself for not writing her life story, her life in those days was like a bloody action film. The kids today with their Play Stations and democracy just wouldn't even believe such hatred and subjugation could happen on the same planet.
All those lives lost and families torn apart when ultimately, there were no winners. A total waste.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 13:47:40 GMT
To give a perspective "from the other side": My Nan was German and grew up during the war in Silesia Eastern Germany. Her family had no truck with National Socialism. She told me about how her family had taken on a Polish girl as a maid and as things grew more politically volatile they ended up protecting her from the Nazis. Her dad expected the worst if word got out about her to the point where he told the family that if the SS came in the night for him they were to run and hide. Such was the culture of fear that ordinary citizens lived in in Nazi Germany. Her dad was in hospital having an operation when the Russians came. My Nan's family had to leave at once and leave him behind, their village was near a bridge and they had to make it across that bridge before it was sabotaged. They hadn't got far when they realised they had left some bread behind, so two of my Nan's sisters went back to the house to get it, promising to catch them up. Her sisters ended up running into a Russian patrol and they had to hide from the Russians in barrels. Unfortunately they were found and brutally raped by the Russians. My Nan never saw them again for decades. There is so much more- my Nan passed away last year and to this day I kick myself for not writing her life story. The kids today with their Play Stations and democracy just wouldn't even believe such hatred and subjugation could happen on the same planet. All those lives lost and families torn apart when ultimately, there were no winners. A total waste. I can't say a good story, I can say a sobering one. Thank you 365 for sharing.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 13:52:52 GMT
To give a perspective "from the other side": My Nan was German and grew up during the war in Silesia Eastern Germany. Her family had no truck with National Socialism. She told me about how her family had taken on a Polish girl as a maid and as things grew more politically volatile they ended up protecting her from the Nazis. Her dad expected the worst if word got out about her to the point where he told the family that if the SS came in the night for him they were to run and hide. Such was the culture of fear that ordinary citizens lived in in Nazi Germany. Her dad was in hospital having an operation when the Russians came. My Nan's family had to leave at once and leave him behind, their village was near a bridge and they had to make it across that bridge before it was sabotaged. They hadn't got far when they realised they had left some bread behind, so two of my Nan's sisters went back to the house to get it, promising to catch them up. Her sisters ended up running into a Russian patrol and they had to hide from the Russians in barrels. Unfortunately they were found and brutally raped by the Russians. My Nan never saw them again for decades. There is so much more- my Nan passed away last year and to this day I kick myself for not writing her life story. The kids today with their Play Stations and democracy just wouldn't even believe such hatred and subjugation could happen on the same planet. All those lives lost and families torn apart when ultimately, there were no winners. A total waste. I can't say a good story, I can say a sobering one. Thank you 365 for sharing. My mum's side of the family has suffered greatly from war. Her Dad was Polish and like Ironicgas's relative he wouldn't talk about it. What little we know is that as a 15 year old he was taken from his village by the SS to be shot in the woods, yet he somehow escaped. British, Polish, American, German, Russian, Italian...the nationality doesn't matter, everyone suffered and experienced the horrors of war. I take my hat off to those who stood up for liberty. RIP
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 17:04:59 GMT
To give a perspective "from the other side": My Nan was German and grew up during the war in Silesia Eastern Germany. Her family had no truck with National Socialism. She told me about how her family had taken on a Polish girl as a maid and as things grew more politically volatile they ended up protecting her from the Nazis. Her dad expected the worst if word got out about her to the point where he told the family that if the SS came in the night for him they were to run and hide. Such was the culture of fear that ordinary citizens lived in in Nazi Germany. Her dad was in hospital having an operation when the Russians came. My Nan's family had to leave at once and leave him behind, their village was near a bridge and they had to make it across that bridge before it was sabotaged. They hadn't got far when they realised they had left some bread behind, so two of my Nan's sisters went back to the house to get it, promising to catch them up. Her sisters ended up running into a Russian patrol and they had to hide from the Russians in barrels. Unfortunately they were found and brutally raped by the Russians. My Nan never saw them again for decades. There is so much more- my Nan passed away last year and to this day I kick myself for not writing her life story, her life in those days was like a bloody action film. The kids today with their Play Stations and democracy just wouldn't even believe such hatred and subjugation could happen on the same planet. All those lives lost and families torn apart when ultimately, there were no winners. A total waste. Incredible story, makes you realise how close humanity came to an ending, 75 years ago.
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Post by William Wilson on May 8, 2020 22:14:38 GMT
My great grandfather was a clerk of the works with the Greater London Council. He helped dig and maintain the tunnels that the tube trains trundled through. When WW1 broke out, conscription wasn`t introduced until 1916, but he joined up straight away and ended up in a tunnelling company attached to the Royal Engineers. It was their job to dig out under no man`s land, to enable high explosive to be detonated beneath the German lines. He spent most of the war, in and around Ypres. I can`t imagine anything more frightening, but he was no hero to his wife. She never forgave him for enlisting. Apparently, she felt that it reflected badly on the state of their marriage, that he chose to go off and live seventy feet below the surface of Belgium, rather than stay home with her. He survived the war, but died a couple of years before I was born. I would have loved to have met him; from what I`ve been told, he was a real character.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 8, 2020 22:16:18 GMT
Good job the victory wasn't won in Denmark for naming purposes.. Funny you should mention Denmark, this is a little known episode that deserves wider recognition. "Shortly after Varsity that the unit got orders to march north to Wismar. Wismar is a city on the Baltic coast of Germany. It sits at the northern end of a chokepoint between the sea and Lake Schweringer and is a transportation hub. Winston Churchill recognized the city’s importance and knew that if it fell into Russian hands too quickly, it could allow them to advance far past the agreed upon lines set up at the Yalta conference and take most of Northern Germany and even Denmark. The taking of Wismar is a little-known sideshow from the end of the Second World War, but its consequences likely saved untold numbers of lives. These small events and individual stories are what makeup history, even if they’re not officially recorded, and by looking into them; we can get a much deeper understanding of it. While it may not have been terribly glamorous or well recognized, the men of the 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion were proud to have been part of this mission, and there are likely many people alive today because of their willingness and ability to do what had to be done." www.google.com/amp/s/www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/canadian-paratroopers-saved-denmark-soviet-occupation.html/amp
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 6:17:56 GMT
Good job the victory wasn't won in Denmark for naming purposes.. Funny you should mention Denmark, this is a little known episode that deserves wider recognition. "Shortly after Varsity that the unit got orders to march north to Wismar. Wismar is a city on the Baltic coast of Germany. It sits at the northern end of a chokepoint between the sea and Lake Schweringer and is a transportation hub. Winston Churchill recognized the city’s importance and knew that if it fell into Russian hands too quickly, it could allow them to advance far past the agreed upon lines set up at the Yalta conference and take most of Northern Germany and even Denmark. The taking of Wismar is a little-known sideshow from the end of the Second World War, but its consequences likely saved untold numbers of lives. These small events and individual stories are what makeup history, even if they’re not officially recorded, and by looking into them; we can get a much deeper understanding of it. While it may not have been terribly glamorous or well recognized, the men of the 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion were proud to have been part of this mission, and there are likely many people alive today because of their willingness and ability to do what had to be done." www.google.com/amp/s/www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/canadian-paratroopers-saved-denmark-soviet-occupation.html/ampThank you for this, a bit if history I was blissfully ignorant of.
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Post by bs10er on May 10, 2020 17:00:26 GMT
My Father-in-law,not from these parts,joined the Glosters as a boy soldier,when war broke out he was sent to France. He was one of the ones who could not get back to Dunkirk and became a prisoner of war for the duration. Marched all over the place from camp to camp in terrible conditions,ended up in the POW work camp at Auschwitz.(there were different camps there,he was NOT in a concentration camp). Made to work at I.G Farben ( a company that I think still exists)where he stayed until the Russians arrived to liberate them. Funny enough,he had no ill feeling towards the Germans after the war,even saying they had saved his life while becoming ill at the camp.But he could never forgive what all the POW's knew was happening at nearby concentration camps.
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on May 11, 2020 7:50:44 GMT
Some great stories in here, hats off to all that served!.
haven't got much to share myself other than knowing my granddad served for the desert rats. he died when I was to young to remember and my family rarely chat about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 8:18:12 GMT
Some great stories in here, hats off to all that served!. haven't got much to share myself other than knowing my granddad served for the desert rats. he died when I was to young to remember and my family rarely chat about it. With a financial collapse on the horizon world wide and far right wing political groups increasing in numbers it's very worrying to say the least. With world powers at logger heads and ignorant to what others say I do fear history will repeat its self especially with bigot bully boys such as Trump and Putin in charge!. And a Dam idiot in No 10
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Post by stuart1974 on May 11, 2020 8:58:26 GMT
Not disagreeing with the geopolitical situation and would be happy to add my two penneth, but can we start a new thread please.
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