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Post by philbemmygas on Jun 6, 2020 11:18:49 GMT
His first season was really good. He looked one of the best midfielders in the Division. He was certainly our best midfielder. And then? The next two seasons were very inconsistent and rarely good. He was played in numerous positions, some of which were totally unsuited to his style of play. For example, he is no wide midfielder. On balance, I'm sorry to see him go. If his confidence returns and he is playing in a team which utilises his undoubted skills Sercombe will be a definite asset. It's just a shame that team won't be us. I wish him well. Inconsistency and injuries have probably contributed to a lower contract offer, or indeed no offer. On his day he could excite the crowd, but alas those days have become few and far between. Good luck to him where ever he ends up
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Post by readinggas on Jun 6, 2020 11:30:20 GMT
His first season was really good. He looked one of the best midfielders in the Division. He was certainly our best midfielder. And then? The next two seasons were very inconsistent and rarely good. He was played in numerous positions, some of which were totally unsuited to his style of play. For example, he is no wide midfielder. On balance, I'm sorry to see him go. If his confidence returns and he is playing in a team which utilises his undoubted skills Sercombe will be a definite asset. It's just a shame that team won't be us. I wish him well.
Yeah pretty much my feelings - he was class in his first season and was instrumental in us getting many points but has been injured and regularly played out of position since. That's probably sapped his confidence and he needs a fresh start somewhere, at the right club he could still do well. He's also probably on a decent wage here too, so makes sense to start rebuilding with him moving on.
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Post by pirate on Jun 6, 2020 12:00:16 GMT
Hopefully we have got a decent replacement or two that are lined up in the coming window. George moncur is creative isn't he pirate Would be a good signing.
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Post by theduke on Jun 6, 2020 12:34:02 GMT
This has been on the cards for a while. Liam and other senior players were told towards the beginning of Garner’s arrival that they’re being bombed out.
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Post by alanrg on Jun 6, 2020 14:39:42 GMT
r u another of the itk brigade
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Post by endicotton on Jun 6, 2020 15:38:38 GMT
I would imagine he was offered a contract but thought he himself was worth more than they offered. Also if the Swindon rumor is definitely true then I'm sure they would of been willing to make him 1 of their highest paid players at the club.
Had 1 excellent season, 1 good and 1 OK in my view. Ability to be 1 of the best in the League but for a number of reasons didn't quite fulfill that potential. If he is going, onwards and upwards and good luck to him for the future as we all move on. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 16:05:19 GMT
This has been on the cards for a while. Liam and other senior players were told towards the beginning of Garner’s arrival that they’re being bombed out. Which other senior players were told this?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 6, 2020 16:55:46 GMT
This has been on the cards for a while. Liam and other senior players were told towards the beginning of Garner’s arrival that they’re being bombed out. Which other senior players were told this? OC, Ogogo & Upson apparently gaschat.co.uk/post/606618
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Post by Marshy on Jun 6, 2020 17:06:39 GMT
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Post by endicotton on Jun 6, 2020 17:10:37 GMT
So our four first team central midfielders were told before the season had ended they were going, but also were picked for the team.... including 1 of our best players of the season in Ogogo? Wouldn't of thought that happened tbh.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Jun 6, 2020 17:23:09 GMT
Regardless of his private views on the qualities of his senior midfield players, why on earth would BG tell them they were finished at Rovers if he wanted them to continue playing? What could he hope to achieve by demotivating his entire central midfield?
I can't believe any manager would operate in such a self defeating and crass manner.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jun 6, 2020 17:58:27 GMT
Regardless of his private views on the qualities of his senior midfield players, why on earth would BG tell them they were finished at Rovers if he wanted them to continue playing? What could he hope to achieve by demotivating his entire central midfield? I can't believe any manager would operate in such a self defeating and crass manner. It would however go some way towards explaining the numerous terrible results and performances he has overseen here, in such stark contrast to the excellent form pre Garner. It's a shame Liam's face no longer fits here, however, he rarely hit the heights of his first season in the subsequent ones.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jun 6, 2020 18:00:56 GMT
Similar rumour to last December, when GC allegedly resigned because he was told he would be forced to sell Jakkola, Sercombe, Kilgour & JCH in January....I won’t hold my breath on this one either.
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Post by blueridge on Jun 6, 2020 18:37:37 GMT
Regardless of his private views on the qualities of his senior midfield players, why on earth would BG tell them they were finished at Rovers if he wanted them to continue playing? What could he hope to achieve by demotivating his entire central midfield? I can't believe any manager would operate in such a self defeating and crass manner. You have a short memory - DC did just that with Mildenhall, Easter, McCrystal and Lawrence in January 2017 - they were all tied into contracts that would trigger extensions if they played so many matches.
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Post by endicotton on Jun 6, 2020 20:15:59 GMT
Similar rumour to last December, when GC allegedly resigned because he was told he would be forced to sell Jakkola, Sercombe, Kilgour & JCH in January....I won’t hold my breath on this one either. I remember that, funniest thing about it was they mentioned all these first teamers but left out Bennett, as if someone said to GC "You have to get rid of our top striker JCH, our best goalkeeper Jaakkola, our best defensive prospect Kilgour... but don't worry that KB has wages of around 4.5k you can keep him because he doesn't play and isn't an important member of our squad".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 20:19:49 GMT
Who will provide the senior leadership on the pitch, preferably somebody who isn't injury prone.
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Post by horfield on Jun 6, 2020 21:54:54 GMT
You cant blame Sercombe for wanting out, Garner is as inspiring a manager as a bag of cement. 12.5% win ratio and still in a job says it all, no senior pro can take a non achiever seriously.
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Post by alanrg on Jun 6, 2020 23:32:53 GMT
don’t believe a word about wanting 2 get rid of certain senior players it seems 2 me that some fans on this forum want Ben garner 2 fail
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 1:48:28 GMT
After a brilliant first season he went missing far to often but he was an exciting player to watch going forward and had a terrific right foot. Good footballer and i would love to see him stay at the club and wish him all the best if he moves on.
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Post by bluebiro on Jun 7, 2020 6:42:48 GMT
How can you wish someone to fail when he has already failed?
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