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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 14, 2022 23:11:09 GMT
Absolutely no tears here. Plenty of time for the polls to turn. Its quite normal when mid term elections are due for the in power government to be behind in the polls. It'll be Labour tears at the important time namely the general election. 👍👍 Maybe, but you've got Macron to look forward to!!
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Post by Gassy on Jan 14, 2022 23:22:24 GMT
Your parties must be fun! 😁 Whilst it seems, as Yatton has just proven, that Starmer did nothing wrong here - I personally have no real issue with workers, even during a lockdown, opening a couple of beers and ordering some food after a long day. Not sure how the law would have worked on that though. Problem with Boris’ cheese & wine event was that it was clearly organised, they’re sat outside in the middle of the day and it’s during lockdown 1.0, when we were only allowed to visit one person outside at the time. All these apologies coming out atm, they’re only apologising because they’ve been caught. No 10 must be at 15 parties now, absolutely shocking. Starmer has done something wrong. He had a social gathering of food and beer at a time when socialising in doors was prohibited . Or is just a case of because it's Starmer it's all OK. Surely you can understand that. Can you show me the government guidelines please at the time of his party? Yatton has shown that he did nothing wrong.. If he is shown to have broken lockdown laws then yes potentially he should resign. But I don’t see anything to say he has, unless you’d like to show us? No surprise the right wing tabloids are desperately trying to save Boris all of a sudden
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 15, 2022 0:08:43 GMT
Pippa Crerar at the Mirror is getting inside stories and drip feeding them. Dominic Cummings' revenge?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jan 15, 2022 1:00:55 GMT
Starmer has done something wrong. He had a social gathering of food and beer at a time when socialising in doors was prohibited . Or is just a case of because it's Starmer it's all OK. Surely you can understand that. Can you show me the government guidelines please at the time of his party? Yatton has shown that he did nothing wrong.. If he is shown to have broken lockdown laws then yes potentially he should resign. But I don’t see anything to say he has, unless you’d like to show us? No surprise the right wing tabloids are desperately trying to save Boris all of a sudden Especially the Sun whos chief editor was... you guessed it.. at the party. I cant stand all this what about Starmer tripe tbh. He's not the PM and he didn't make the rules. If you can't see the difference there's no hope for you. Mind you, if you can still support this arrogant buffoon then that says a lot on its own.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 15, 2022 6:39:50 GMT
Your parties must be fun! 😁 Whilst it seems, as Yatton has just proven, that Starmer did nothing wrong here - I personally have no real issue with workers, even during a lockdown, opening a couple of beers and ordering some food after a long day. Not sure how the law would have worked on that though. Problem with Boris’ cheese & wine event was that it was clearly organised, they’re sat outside in the middle of the day and it’s during lockdown 1.0, when we were only allowed to visit one person outside at the time. All these apologies coming out atm, they’re only apologising because they’ve been caught. No 10 must be at 15 parties now, absolutely shocking. I always thought a cheese and wine party would be pretty boring, but the one I went to turned out to be a fondue after all. 🙃 I was thrown out of my local conservative cheese & wine party . Some bigwig told me “that’s nacho cheese, out! “
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 15, 2022 8:16:38 GMT
Pippa Crerar at the Mirror is getting inside stories and drip feeding them. Dominic Cummings' revenge? My money is 100% on Cummings a bitter,twisted excuse of a man
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Post by francegas on Jan 15, 2022 8:30:04 GMT
Starmer has done something wrong. He had a social gathering of food and beer at a time when socialising in doors was prohibited . Or is just a case of because it's Starmer it's all OK. Surely you can understand that. Did you look at my link ? Yes I have. Unless I'm reading it wrong these were the measures in place as from the 17th May. The photo/video was taken in Durham a few days before the Hartlepool by election which was on 6th May. I not supportive over Boris over these parties (As I have already stated) I'm just highlighting that politicians across the board have not been squeaky clean when it comes to covid restrictions from Tory parties, labour MP driving to wish his old man a happy birthday,SNP MP travelling on public transport then she knew she had tested positive for covid etc and I'm sure there are many many other examples which haven't surfaced...yet. It's not a case of Whataboutery (as many like to say) because wasn't the first breach of rules Neil Kinnock travelling to wish his old man a happy birthday at a time when non essential travel was banned so everything else after is Whataboutery!!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 15, 2022 8:34:13 GMT
Pippa Crerar at the Mirror is getting inside stories and drip feeding them. Dominic Cummings' revenge? My money is 100% on Cummings a bitter,twisted excuse of a man Cummings shat all over covid rules himself. Him getting away with breaking the rules was the beginning of the end in the first place. Also, what's all this sh** from police? "We won't investigate breaches (potentioal crimes) that happened in the past? Isn't that exactly what their Dam job is??
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Post by yattongas on Jan 15, 2022 8:45:29 GMT
Did you look at my link ? Yes I have. Unless I'm reading it wrong these were the measures in place as from the 17th May. The photo/video was taken in Durham a few days before the Hartlepool by election which was on 6th May. I not supportive over Boris over these parties (As I have already stated) I'm just highlighting that politicians across the board have not been squeaky clean when it comes to covid restrictions from Tory parties, labour MP driving to wish his old man a happy birthday,SNP MP travelling on public transport then she knew she had tested positive for covid etc and I'm sure there are many many other examples which haven't surfaced...yet. It's not a case of Whataboutery (as many like to say) because wasn't the first breach of rules Neil Kinnock travelling to wish his old man a happy birthday at a time when non essential travel was banned so everything else after is Whataboutery!! Nah . You thought you had a humdinger and it was just a damp squib 😁
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 15, 2022 8:47:32 GMT
My money is 100% on Cummings a bitter,twisted excuse of a man Cummings shat all over covid rules himself. Him getting away with breaking the rules was the beginning of the end in the first place. Also, what's all this sh** from police? "We won't investigate breaches (potentioal crimes) that happened in the past? Isn't that exactly what their Dam job is?? Don't start me on the police,selective or what.
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Post by popuppirate on Jan 15, 2022 9:18:48 GMT
Pippa Crerar at the Mirror is getting inside stories and drip feeding them. Dominic Cummings' revenge? My money is 100% on Cummings a bitter,twisted excuse of a man These p1ss ups had to have been widely known about, there's no way on earth the police, journalists, families of those attending etc weren't aware of the extent and frequency of the breaches. The information is just being strategically drip fed now as during a hardcore lockdown it would have been pure chaos. Should any further restrictions be necessary now there will be almost blanket disobedience all thanks to the tories disregard for any of us. They're a *ing disgrace as are our media and those corrupt in the police force. In other times we'd be taking to the streets to overthrow this shambles but we're too privileged, bigoted and self entitled to care enough. Still, could be worse, could have been Corbyn yeah?
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Post by francegas on Jan 15, 2022 9:18:56 GMT
Yes I have. Unless I'm reading it wrong these were the measures in place as from the 17th May. The photo/video was taken in Durham a few days before the Hartlepool by election which was on 6th May. I not supportive over Boris over these parties (As I have already stated) I'm just highlighting that politicians across the board have not been squeaky clean when it comes to covid restrictions from Tory parties, labour MP driving to wish his old man a happy birthday,SNP MP travelling on public transport then she knew she had tested positive for covid etc and I'm sure there are many many other examples which haven't surfaced...yet. It's not a case of Whataboutery (as many like to say) because wasn't the first breach of rules Neil Kinnock travelling to wish his old man a happy birthday at a time when non essential travel was banned so everything else after is Whataboutery!! Nah . You thought you had a humdinger and it was just a damp squib 😁 No I didn't and no it wasn't. So a simple yes or no answer , was Neil Kinnock right to travel to wish his old man happy birthday when non essential travel was banned and was Starmer entitled to mix indoors with others having beer and food at a time indoor socialising was banned? Just a simple yes or no is suffice.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 15, 2022 9:18:56 GMT
My money is 100% on Cummings a bitter,twisted excuse of a man Cummings shat all over covid rules himself. Him getting away with breaking the rules was the beginning of the end in the first place. Also, what's all this sh** from police? "We won't investigate breaches (potentioal crimes) that happened in the past? Isn't that exactly what their Dam job is?? Operation Save Cressida Dick. There are several top jobs hanging in the balance here including top Civil Servants and members of the press. If I was being more charitable I think there is an attempt not to retrospectively prosecute lockdown parties, investigating these (legal precedence wise) could open up others. Don't buy it myself though, I suspect it's more likely embarrassment and reputational damage to the Met. They are probably hoping the Grey Investigation gives enough ambiguity to hold back and if Boris is forced out anyway, they may have an excuse to let things slide.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jan 15, 2022 9:35:39 GMT
My money is 100% on Cummings a bitter,twisted excuse of a man These p1ss ups had to have been widely known about, there's no way on earth the police, journalists, families of those attending etc weren't aware of the extent and frequency of the breaches. The information is just being strategically drip fed now as during a hardcore lockdown it would have been pure chaos. Should any further restrictions be necessary now there will be almost blanket disobedience all thanks to the tories disregard for any of us. They're a *ing disgrace as are our media and those corrupt in the police force. In other times we'd be taking to the streets to overthrow this shambles but we're too privileged, bigoted and self entitled to care enough. Still, could be worse, could have been Corbyn yeah? You are absolutely right. A government that does what they want and have the police and media in their pocket. On top of which, regarding your point about taking to the streets, I think you'll find that next week the government is going to take away your right to protest too. A dictatorship in the making and cheered on by many on the basis that they don't like the leader of the opposition. Pathetic.
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Post by gas2 on Jan 15, 2022 9:35:53 GMT
I want Boris to stay as p m because at the next election the Tories will get a good kicking from us right in the ballot box its not only these sleaze downing street parties that he's f up its the cost of living issues that we are getting now
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Post by popuppirate on Jan 15, 2022 9:58:13 GMT
I want Boris to stay as p m because at the next election the Tories will get a good kicking from us right in the ballot box its not only these sleaze downing street parties that he's f up its the cost of living issues that we are getting now I agree to a point but want him out now, even Thatcher had more integrity and principles than that bafoon. Come the next election, the spin and smears against any opposition could well be enough to distract this electorate not to mention that opposition sabotaging themselves anyway. We're a right wing capitalist society and might just have to settle for the least bad option unfortunately.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 15, 2022 10:01:10 GMT
My money is 100% on Cummings a bitter,twisted excuse of a man Cummings shat all over covid rules himself. Him getting away with breaking the rules was the beginning of the end in the first place. Also, what's all this sh** from police? "We won't investigate breaches (potentioal crimes) that happened in the past? Isn't that exactly what their Dam job is?? Didn’t they say last time they won’t investigate because of a lack of evidence? Suddenly there’s evidence and a confession and now they want nothing to do with it again. That coupled with the illegal contracts, Tory MPs taking bribes and taking bribe money to do your his apartment - we have an absolutely corrupt government.
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 15, 2022 10:16:45 GMT
My money is 100% on Cummings a bitter,twisted excuse of a man These p1ss ups had to have been widely known about, there's no way on earth the police, journalists, families of those attending etc weren't aware of the extent and frequency of the breaches. The information is just being strategically drip fed now as during a hardcore lockdown it would have been pure chaos. Should any further restrictions be necessary now there will be almost blanket disobedience all thanks to the tories disregard for any of us. They're a *ing disgrace as are our media and those corrupt in the police force. In other times we'd be taking to the streets to overthrow this shambles but we're too privileged, bigoted and self entitled to care enough. Still, could be worse, could have been Corbyn yeah? It's a truism you get the politicians you deserve.
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Post by popuppirate on Jan 15, 2022 10:25:58 GMT
These p1ss ups had to have been widely known about, there's no way on earth the police, journalists, families of those attending etc weren't aware of the extent and frequency of the breaches. The information is just being strategically drip fed now as during a hardcore lockdown it would have been pure chaos. Should any further restrictions be necessary now there will be almost blanket disobedience all thanks to the tories disregard for any of us. They're a *ing disgrace as are our media and those corrupt in the police force. In other times we'd be taking to the streets to overthrow this shambles but we're too privileged, bigoted and self entitled to care enough. Still, could be worse, could have been Corbyn yeah? It's a truism you get the politicians you deserve. I'm afraid so, yeah. We voted for Johnson and we voted for Brexit, we've made our bed. The country is full of casual racism, selfishness, ignorance and a disregard for the well-being of others. As is our government.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 15, 2022 10:38:26 GMT
Can we have get rid of both of the bloody leaders please? Useless hypocrites out of touch with the normal man on the street the lot of them. And good opposition is needed to make for a good government.
Don’t know who I would vote for given the opportunity tomorrow. I’d probably spoil my ballot or not bother voting - that’s not something I’ve done before (perhaps other than for things like the police commissioner)
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