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Post by popuppirate on Jan 15, 2022 11:13:27 GMT
Can we have get rid of both of the bloody leaders please? Useless hypocrites out of touch with the normal man on the street the lot of them. And good opposition is needed to make for a good government. Don’t know who I would vote for given the opportunity tomorrow. I’d probably spoil my ballot or not bother voting - that’s not something I’ve done before (perhaps other than for things like the police commissioner) The problem is we don't get to hear Starmer's politics, it's a personality contest these days. I have left and right wing friends and colleagues, all moderately intelligent and socially aware, but when we talk politics most are unable to rationalise what it was about Corbyn they disliked and to almost the same degree Starmer. Corbyn was a 'terrorist sympathiser, a Marxist (most can't define Marxism) and an anti semite'. On Starmer it's, 'i don't like/trust him, a wet lettuce or all he says is the opposite of Johnson'. It's never about the policies or the ideology (unless they mention Marx). How the hell could things have been worse, more deceptive and corrupt, and more negligent under a different party?
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Post by yattongas on Jan 15, 2022 11:19:07 GMT
Imagine being so full of yourself that you set up “ save big dog” that you’ve named yourself. The bloke is a joke and a narcissist.
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 15, 2022 11:49:48 GMT
It's a truism you get the politicians you deserve. I'm afraid so, yeah. We voted for Johnson and we voted for Brexit, we've made our bed. The country is full of casual racism, selfishness, ignorance and a disregard for the well-being of others. As is our government. Tbh in my experience not much different from most Countries in the West, we've been complacent and over bloated for too long.
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Post by popuppirate on Jan 15, 2022 12:00:57 GMT
I'm afraid so, yeah. We voted for Johnson and we voted for Brexit, we've made our bed. The country is full of casual racism, selfishness, ignorance and a disregard for the well-being of others. As is our government. Tbh in my experience not much different from most Countries in the West, we've been complacent and over bloated for too long. That's fair enough, I've not travelled enough for long enough to compare although Holland and Portugal seemed sound to a visitor to the point I'd drop everything to relocate for a few years to find out. Both in EU too.
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 15, 2022 14:05:44 GMT
Tbh in my experience not much different from most Countries in the West, we've been complacent and over bloated for too long. That's fair enough, I've not travelled enough for long enough to compare although Holland and Portugal seemed sound to a visitor to the point I'd drop everything to relocate for a few years to find out. Both in EU too. If you get the opportunity grab it, worked all over Europe and it gives you a sense of perspective/context.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 15, 2022 14:19:50 GMT
That's fair enough, I've not travelled enough for long enough to compare although Holland and Portugal seemed sound to a visitor to the point I'd drop everything to relocate for a few years to find out. Both in EU too. If you get the opportunity grab it, worked all over Europe and it gives you a sense of perspective/context. Shame you voted to make working abroad more difficult for youngsters. 🙄
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 15, 2022 14:43:36 GMT
If you get the opportunity grab it, worked all over Europe and it gives you a sense of perspective/context. Shame you voted to make working abroad more difficult for youngsters. 🙄 You know that's not why I voted leave,in a complex issue there are both negatives and positives and leaving the EU does not prevent you from working abroad.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 15, 2022 14:56:57 GMT
Shame you voted to make working abroad more difficult for youngsters. 🙄 You know that's not why I voted leave,in a complex issue there are both negatives and positives and leaving the EU does not prevent you from working abroad. I genuinely can't imagine what good reason anyone had for voting leave, and if there was one I can't see that it was now justified.
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Post by oldie on Jan 15, 2022 15:29:12 GMT
You know that's not why I voted leave,in a complex issue there are both negatives and positives and leaving the EU does not prevent you from working abroad. I genuinely can't imagine what good reason anyone had for voting leave, and if there was one I can't see that it was now justified. I feel the same way.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 15, 2022 15:53:02 GMT
Shame you voted to make working abroad more difficult for youngsters. 🙄 You know that's not why I voted leave,in a complex issue there are both negatives and positives and leaving the EU does not prevent you from working abroad. It makes it a lot more difficult for youngsters. Which was my point and that’s a fact .
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Post by yattongas on Jan 15, 2022 15:55:09 GMT
You know that's not why I voted leave,in a complex issue there are both negatives and positives and leaving the EU does not prevent you from working abroad. I genuinely can't imagine what good reason anyone had for voting leave, and if there was one I can't see that it was now justified. There’s good and bad points …… ask trevorgas . Only problem is he can’t name the good points yet …. Errr 50 years blah blah 🙄
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 15, 2022 15:55:19 GMT
You know that's not why I voted leave,in a complex issue there are both negatives and positives and leaving the EU does not prevent you from working abroad. It makes it a lot more difficult for youngsters. Which was my point and that’s a fact . Agreed
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Post by yattongas on Jan 16, 2022 0:30:28 GMT
Did you look at my link ? Yes I have. Unless I'm reading it wrong these were the measures in place as from the 17th May. The photo/video was taken in Durham a few days before the Hartlepool by election which was on 6th May. I not supportive over Boris over these parties (As I have already stated) I'm just highlighting that politicians across the board have not been squeaky clean when it comes to covid restrictions from Tory parties, labour MP driving to wish his old man a happy birthday,SNP MP travelling on public transport then she knew she had tested positive for covid etc and I'm sure there are many many other examples which haven't surfaced...yet. It's not a case of Whataboutery (as many like to say) because wasn't the first breach of rules Neil Kinnock travelling to wish his old man a happy birthday at a time when non essential travel was banned so everything else after is Whataboutery!! oops 😬
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 16, 2022 1:58:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 8:28:14 GMT
Don't COVID rules say Johnson shouldnt be isolating? Just taking a test for 7 days.
Wonder if he's on £90 a week SSP?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 16, 2022 8:35:29 GMT
Don't COVID rules say Johnson shouldnt be isolating? Just taking a test for 7 days. Wonder if he's on £90 a week SSP? Boris doesn't follow Covid rules.
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Post by baggins on Jan 16, 2022 8:36:42 GMT
You know that's not why I voted leave,in a complex issue there are both negatives and positives and leaving the EU does not prevent you from working abroad. It makes it a lot more difficult for youngsters. Which was my point and that’s a fact . Can't even Holiday in Europe for more than 90 days a year, so taking time out to enjoy yourself travelling has gone. Great.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jan 16, 2022 9:22:18 GMT
Giving Williamson knighthood. Boris is literally buying his silence. Where is your democracy now Tories?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 16, 2022 9:26:04 GMT
During the referendum a colleague at work was toying which way to vote. I said "Vote Brexit, get Boris". She laughed at that. She later left to retrain as a midwife and while it took a bit longer for him to get to Number 10, I wonder if she is still laughing?
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Post by francegas on Jan 16, 2022 9:32:53 GMT
It makes it a lot more difficult for youngsters. Which was my point and that’s a fact . Can't even Holiday in Europe for more than 90 days a year, so taking time out to enjoy yourself travelling has gone. Great. Yes you can bags its 90 days in 180. So go on holiday for 3 months return for 3 months then travel again for another 3. Ok it's a pain for people with holiday homes abroad who are retired but if they spent 6 months and 1 day at their holiday home they should be changing their residency status, paying taxes in that country, changing their car registration (this certainly applies in France) however how many people actually do that. I know UK citizens here who have lived here full time for 10+ years who haven't done this.
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