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Post by yattongas on Jan 18, 2022 6:44:59 GMT
Another example of how utterly mad Conservative party members areâŠ.
Has Boris been telling the truth ?
Was telling the truth 46% Was not telling the truth 29%
What a time to be alive ! đđ€Ł
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 18, 2022 7:35:39 GMT
It's the same with the Royal Navy taking over the Channel migrant operation. In practice it's more to do with helping coordination yet the headlines would suggest something far more 'robust'. The Ukraine story is interesting as the C17 flights did not overfly Germany. The German foreign minister was in Ukraine at the time, emphasising that Germany would not supply Ukraine with defensive weapons. A German company Rheinmetal is involved in providing state of the art training to Russian forces. Call it vested economic interests or call it historical guilt, but Germanyâs foreign policy particularly towards Russia and China is very dubious. www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/public_relations/news/archiv/archive2016/index~1_1219.php Funny how gas supplies can concentrate minds. **cough - Nordstream 2 - cough** đ€«
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 7:48:51 GMT
Good of Sunak to write off 4.3 billion pounds of tax fraud of our money . That's why the Tories are in power, they have no problem stealing from the people. They set out to do it by default.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 7:52:09 GMT
Todayâs (18th Jan) headline is even worse. British troops sent to Ukraine it says in big capital letters across the front page. Prompting scorn from all sides of the political spectrum. Until you realise that all it is related to is an announcement by the defence secretary that the UK is sending a shipment of limited range, anti tank missiles to be used for defensive purposes by the Ukrainian army. Part of the deal being the deployment of a very very small number of troops to train the Ukrainians to use them, far away from the border and for a short amount of time before getting the hell out of there. Even if my political views perfectly matched the daily mails (which they donât) Iâd be pretty miffed by all the sensationalist click bait theyâve been coming up with recently. I mean who actually enjoys reading something and realising half way through that the title is misleading and the story isnât as consequential as you originally thought it would be. It's the same with the Royal Navy taking over the Channel migrant operation. In practice it's more to do with helping coordination yet the headlines would suggest something far more 'robust'. The Ukraine story is interesting as the C17 flights did not overfly Germany. With the absolute state of UK navy they will probably lose against the migrants.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 7:54:25 GMT
Readers are the ones who are being misled, the editorial teams are complicit in the whole charade. Take the Starmer picture. Had that been released at the time it would have been very serious for him, but someone has sat on that for 18 months waiting for an opportune moment and, bingo, it surfaces when Boris is in trouble. Firstly the moral equivalence is dubious and secondly it's clear that it's an attempt at distraction. The politicians and the press are trying to take the electorate as fools. Twas always thus. Yeah oldie, people are very happy to suck it up until it doesn't fit their own end.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 18, 2022 13:37:13 GMT
Boris back on TV today, he is still denying knowing. Thought he looked on the brink of tears at one point.
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Post by axegas on Jan 18, 2022 13:44:38 GMT
âNobody warned me it was against the rulesâ says the PM.
Blimey thatâs straight from the Prince Andrew book of excuses.
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Post by baggins on Jan 18, 2022 13:51:29 GMT
We up to 54 votes yet?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 18, 2022 14:05:15 GMT
Officially 6, off the record closing in on 40. I suspect that once the report comes out it'll trigger more then. Will it be enough? Not sure but I still believe he'll be gone shortly after the May local elections, if he lasts that long.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 18, 2022 14:07:33 GMT
âNobody warned me it was against the rulesâ says the PM. Blimey thatâs straight from the Prince Andrew book of excuses. Serial liar has lied so much even he can't recall what was true and what wasn't so passes the buck. Just like Watergate or the Profumo affair, it's the handling of events once it became public which is probably worse than the crime itself.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 18, 2022 14:38:15 GMT
Boris back on TV today, he is still denying knowing. Thought he looked on the brink of tears at one point. Yeah I could imagine him crying for himself. Sod the 150k who died but shed a tear for his self inflicted woes đ
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Post by yattongas on Jan 18, 2022 14:38:59 GMT
âNobody warned me it was against the rulesâ says the PM. Blimey thatâs straight from the Prince Andrew book of excuses. He made the bloody rules
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 18, 2022 14:49:22 GMT
Boris back on TV today, he is still denying knowing. Thought he looked on the brink of tears at one point. Yeah I could imagine him crying for himself. Sod the 150k who died but shed a tear for his self inflicted woes đ Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for him. Even my socialist mum shed a tear on a purely human level when Thatcher moved out of Number 10. Can't say I'll have anything but relief when he goes.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 18, 2022 15:39:02 GMT
Yeah I could imagine him crying for himself. Sod the 150k who died but shed a tear for his self inflicted woes đ Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for him. Even my socialist mum shed a tear on a purely human level when Thatcher moved out of Number 10. Can't say I'll have anything but relief when he goes. Sorry , didnât mean to give the impression that you had sympathy for him. Iâm pretty sure youâve got him sussed Stu đ
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 18, 2022 16:55:21 GMT
From Sky News:
"Tory MP reckons Boris Johnson will be gone in a week
This is just in from our politics producer, who has been speaking to one disgruntled Conservative MP.Â
They believe they are "nearly there" when it comes to the magic number of no confidence letters needed to trigger a confidence vote in the prime minister.
The MP, who said they give Boris Johnson "a week" before he is toppled, wants him to be gone before the outcome of the Sue Gray investigation.Â
This seems to be backed up by The Guardian's Aubrey Allegretti, who tweeted that about a dozen Tory MPs gathered earlier to discuss submitting letters of no confidence."
The Conservative Party doesn't usually shy away when it comes to regicide.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 18, 2022 17:00:48 GMT
On a slight different track, Laura K is leaving at Easter, here are her potential successors: "Vicki Young, Laura Kuenssbergâs deputy who was tipped by Andrew Marr to take over as BBC political editor, wonât be applying It is understood that Vicki Youngâs husband is being treated for cancer. Jon Sopel, the BBCâs former North America editor, is among the favourites to replace Kunessberg, after moving back to London from Washington. Internal candidates are expected to include Chris Mason, the Any Questions presenter and political correspondent, Media editor Amol Rajan and Ros Atkins, the BBC News channel presenter who has won acclaim for his âexplainerâ videos of complex topics. Emily Maitlis could welcome a new frontline role after five years as lead presenter of Newsnight. Tipped as a possible Today programme presenter, Kuenssberg will take up a new BBC role in Spring. Deborah Turness, the incoming BBC CEO of News and Current Affairs, is expected to help choose her replacement. The arrival of Ms Turness, currently chief executive of ITN, could encourage interest from Anushka Asthana, ITV Newsâ Deputy Political Editor and Channel 4 News presenter Cathy Newman. Beth Rigby, Sky News political editor and her deputy Sam Coates, could also be in the frame." www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/media/bbc-political-editor-runners-riders-laura-kuenssberg-1405727/amp
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Post by yattongas on Jan 18, 2022 17:13:17 GMT
On a slight different track, Laura K is leaving at Easter, here are her potential successors: "Vicki Young, Laura Kuenssbergâs deputy who was tipped by Andrew Marr to take over as BBC political editor, wonât be applying It is understood that Vicki Youngâs husband is being treated for cancer. Jon Sopel, the BBCâs former North America editor, is among the favourites to replace Kunessberg, after moving back to London from Washington. Internal candidates are expected to include Chris Mason, the Any Questions presenter and political correspondent, Media editor Amol Rajan and Ros Atkins, the BBC News channel presenter who has won acclaim for his âexplainerâ videos of complex topics. Emily Maitlis could welcome a new frontline role after five years as lead presenter of Newsnight. Tipped as a possible Today programme presenter, Kuenssberg will take up a new BBC role in Spring. Deborah Turness, the incoming BBC CEO of News and Current Affairs, is expected to help choose her replacement. The arrival of Ms Turness, currently chief executive of ITN, could encourage interest from Anushka Asthana, ITV Newsâ Deputy Political Editor and Channel 4 News presenter Cathy Newman. Beth Rigby, Sky News political editor and her deputy Sam Coates, could also be in the frame." www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/media/bbc-political-editor-runners-riders-laura-kuenssberg-1405727/ampSam Coates would be a decent replacement
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Post by yattongas on Jan 18, 2022 23:04:22 GMT
Oooh đŻ
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Post by Gassy on Jan 18, 2022 23:24:05 GMT
Why 54? What does this trigger, a vote in parliament?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 18, 2022 23:33:21 GMT
Wow!
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