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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 13:46:49 GMT
Very odd story with the suspected Tory MP rapist, seems like it has been covered up for a month by rees-mogg and another, and the MP hasn't been suspended. Reminiscent of the disgusting Jimmy Saville situation that was hushed for years, and probably Prince Andrew. It shows how corrupted the establishment is. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53630497Morality has never seemed to apply to the Tory party, Thatcher knighted paedophiles after all so we shouldn’t expect anything less now. Also, isn’t it within the power of the members of that local Tory party to vote to have this guy struck off? I seem to recall some shenanigans where Farage was going to encourage Brexit party voters to infiltrate the Tories and have their pro-Europe MP’s subjected to a vote of no confidence. So it will be interesting to see if his Tory constituents turn a blind eye to this turn of events.
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Post by inee on Aug 3, 2020 13:59:53 GMT
Isn't there a child limit in China, or somewhere like that? That is correct you are only allowed 3, one of each. Wait what ,male ,female and hermaphrodite
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Post by inee on Aug 3, 2020 14:01:40 GMT
2 I think. Believe the global average was around 4 when the one child plan was introduced. The birthrate in europe is 1 now I believe. The next big export trade is expected to be people, so if the global birth rate drops as expected, china may put it back up to four! Look at the forecast for Japan.... Warm with a chance of natural insemination,
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Post by inee on Aug 3, 2020 14:14:01 GMT
Very odd story with the suspected Tory MP rapist, seems like it has been covered up for a month by rees-mogg and another, and the MP hasn't been suspended. Reminiscent of the disgusting Jimmy Saville situation that was hushed for years, and probably Prince Andrew. It shows how corrupted the establishment is. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53630497It's not just one party though is it, don't forget harriet harmon working with pie(paedophile information exchange) and saying something along the lines of children having consensual sex with adults leaves no identifiable damage. Have a look at the link below, it's 65 now not 25, i find it odd that many only mention thatcher when the facts are other politicians from all party's and thousands of others need to be investigated and neckshot if guilty Do not follow link if your at work. Be aware that some of the stuff listed is beyond evil labour25.com/labour25/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 14:14:07 GMT
Look at the forecast for Japan.... Warm with a chance of natural insemination, Made me laugh 😂 On a serious note, their demographic trends are leading them into the economic abyss.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 14:16:03 GMT
Morality has never seemed to apply to the Tory party, Thatcher knighted paedophiles after all so we shouldn’t expect anything less now. Also, isn’t it within the power of the members of that local Tory party to vote to have this guy struck off? I seem to recall some shenanigans where Farage was going to encourage Brexit party voters to infiltrate the Tories and have their pro-Europe MP’s subjected to a vote of no confidence. So it will be interesting to see if his Tory constituents turn a blind eye to this turn of events. Before we judge, let's see the actual charge and what the police do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 14:30:52 GMT
Very odd story with the suspected Tory MP rapist, seems like it has been covered up for a month by rees-mogg and another, and the MP hasn't been suspended. Reminiscent of the disgusting Jimmy Saville situation that was hushed for years, and probably Prince Andrew. It shows how corrupted the establishment is. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53630497It's not just one party though is it, don't forget harriet harmon working with pie(paedophile information exchange) and saying something along the lines of children having consensual sex with adults leaves no identifiable damage. Have a look at the link below, it's 65 now not 25, i find it odd that many only mention thatcher when the facts are other politicians from all party's and thousands of others need to be investigated and neckshot if guilty Do not follow link if your at work. Be aware that some of the stuff listed is beyond evil labour25.com/labour25/Any positions of power will attract the worst of humanity, they seek to become untouchable. I've always believed in actions over words, the way the government deal with this kind of thing is reprehensible, there was a story last week about an MP called Elphicke, who sexually assaulted a 20 yo aid, it took a year before the police were involved. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53554485
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Post by inee on Aug 3, 2020 14:32:55 GMT
Warm with a chance of natural insemination, Made me laugh 😂 On a serious note, their demographic trends are leading them into the economic abyss. Japan is an odd place (never been there),it's way of life I will never understand. Doesn't japan have a very high aging population, makes you wonder if they will invite foreign workers to take up the gap In a few years I think China will be selling goods of Japanese quality which will destroy their finances totally, the Chinese catch on very quickly as regards quality. Another odd thing is japan and russia never signed a peace treaty to end ww2 between the 2 countries, they did sign to technically end the war between them but never officially declared peace, all over a couple of islands odd
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 14:40:05 GMT
Made me laugh 😂 On a serious note, their demographic trends are leading them into the economic abyss. Japan is an odd place (never been there),it's way of life I will never understand. Doesn't japan have a very high aging population, makes you wonder if they will invite foreign workers to take up the gap In a few years I think China will be selling goods of Japanese quality which will destroy their finances totally, the Chinese catch on very quickly as regards quality. Another odd thing is japan and russia never signed a peace treaty to end ww2 between the 2 countries, they did sign to technically end the war between them but never officially declared peace, all over a couple of islands odd On aging population. Exactly, that's the demographic trends I refer to. 30% reduction in their population on current trends
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Post by inee on Aug 3, 2020 14:40:33 GMT
It's not just one party though is it, don't forget harriet harmon working with pie(paedophile information exchange) and saying something along the lines of children having consensual sex with adults leaves no identifiable damage. Have a look at the link below, it's 65 now not 25, i find it odd that many only mention thatcher when the facts are other politicians from all party's and thousands of others need to be investigated and neckshot if guilty Do not follow link if your at work. Be aware that some of the stuff listed is beyond evil labour25.com/labour25/Any positions of power will attract the worst of humanity, they seek to become untouchable. I've always believed in actions over words, the way the government deal with this kind of thing is reprehensible, there was a story last week about an MP called Elphicke, who sexually assaulted a 20 yo aid, it took a year before the police were involved. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53554485One thing that disturbs me, is that despite guidelines some judges don't seem to think paedophilia warrants a long sentence, you many sentences which are so short it beggars belief, things like someone had thousands of images, videos etc but got a suspended sentence. I've sais this before i think on 5the official forum, that judges who give out short sentances for sex crimes should be stood down as it seems they are in favour of these crimes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 16:35:12 GMT
Warm with a chance of natural insemination, Made me laugh 😂 On a serious note, their demographic trends are leading them into the economic abyss. I good post, the one urging caution until it's known what charges, if any are brought etc, and of course it's backed up by you saying something about Japan that I would like to see you justify. Even the IMF with their regular scaremongering can't come up with anything worse as a forecast for Japan than predicting a 1% drop in projected growth PA over the coming 3 decades, and as we all know, the IMF love nothing more than to paint pictures of economic catastrophe. What the heck are they talking about, less than what projection? This isn't a new thing that Japan have an ageing population. The IMF even suggested Japan could reduce healthcare costs by increasing retirement age, so that would keep people active etc, that makes it obvious that they nothing whatsoever about the place. For as long as I've been a regular visitor they have had job creation schemes for retired people, an example would be keeping train platforms clean and tidy. IMF utterly clueless. A couple of weeks back you were complaining that Japan was a sexist society, no abyss required as not only do those IMF figures ignore increased mechanisation and aren't aligned with Japan's own government forecasts, if you did some research before throwing insults around you would know that Women are being targeted and incentivised to enter the workplace. Not so much because the economy will fail without them, but to ensure that there are surplus workers and promotion opportunities, the idea being to keep staff morale up and people motivated and that the country can comfortably maintain it's position in the Global market. Aligned with this is one of the factors that has been identified in reduced birth rate being dealt with, pre-school school provision has historically been a major problem there, that's slowly being corrected so that Women find it easier to enter the workforce. Economic abyss. Yeah, alright, if you say so.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 17:33:20 GMT
"Based on the results of the medium-fertility projection, Japan is expected to enter a long period of population decline. The population is expected to decrease to around 110.92 million by 2040, fall below 100 million to 99.24 million by 2053, and drop to 88.08 million by 2065 (see Table 1-1 and Figure 1-1)." Then "(1) Trends in the Young-age Population under 15 and its Share of the Population The annual number of births in Japan (Japanese) has declined from 2.09 million in 1973 to 1.01 million in 2015. Consequently, the population of children under the age of 15 (young-age population) has also decreased from 27 million in the early 1980s to 15.95 million, as recorded in the 2015 Population Census. According to the medium-fertility projection, the population size of this age group will fall to the 14 million mark by 2021 (see Table 1-1 and Figure 1-3). The decline will continue and the population of this age group is expected to fall below 10 million by 2056, eventually decreasing to around 8.98 million by 2065." And this analysis comes from Japan www.ipss.go.jp/pp-zenkoku/e/zenkoku_e2017/pp_zenkoku2017e_gaiyou.html#:~:text=Based%20on%20the%20results%20of,and%20Figure%201%2D1). Shrinking and aging. Unless a new "paradigm" comes along they are f**ked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 18:47:22 GMT
Very good, but predates 2016 when the measures I identified and pointed you towards were implemented.
It's my second home, I know the place fairly well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:16:24 GMT
Very good, but predates 2016 when the measures I identified and pointed you towards were implemented. It's my second home, I know the place fairly well. Stats speak for themselves. Your personal relationship with Japan is irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:31:29 GMT
Very good, but predates 2016 when the measures I identified and pointed you towards were implemented. It's my second home, I know the place fairly well. Stats speak for themselves. Your personal relationship with Japan is irrelevant. Oh for goodness sake, here we go again. Just Google Womenomics. Can't you ever, just once, accept that someone knows more about a subject than you do. Your stats are out of date. I'll be patient with you again, goodness only knows why, you don't deserve it, but here's some context; Baltimore school meals, my information was out of date, you corrected me, I accepted the correction and was happy to add new information to my knowledge base. Today you give out of date information about Japan, I correct you and explain why you are wrong. Your reaction above says everything anybody needs to know about you.
Just one final thing, you were more than happy to reference having lived and worked in America to support an argument you were putting forward.
Beyond Tedious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 8:18:27 GMT
Stats speak for themselves. Your personal relationship with Japan is irrelevant. Oh for goodness sake, here we go again. Just Google Womenomics. Can't you ever, just once, accept that someone knows more about a subject than you do. Your stats are out of date. I'll be patient with you again, goodness only knows why, you don't deserve it, but here's some context; Baltimore school meals, my information was out of date, you corrected me, I accepted the correction and was happy to add new information to my knowledge base. Today you give out of date information about Japan, I correct you and explain why you are wrong. Your reaction above says everything anybody needs to know about you.
Just one final thing, you were more than happy to reference having lived and worked in America to support an argument you were putting forward.
Beyond Tedious.Happy to accept updated stats and forecasts that improve upon / amend those that I quoted from and provided a link to. But you have not, just another rant which, frankly is irrelevant. The Baltimore thing is long forgotten, like I have said it's not about to winning. However, as you brought it up. That was just another example of you expressing an opinion based upon nothing in particular, it had nothing to do with my time in the States, which in any event is now pretty irrelevant as I came back 25 years of ago. I of course accept your anecdotal evidence of society in Japan, it might even be interesting in that light if you stopped presenting such as an absolute fact. So, Japan. On their own research paper and forecast they are staring into the economic abyss based upon demographic forecasts. I would be genuinely interested if you have updated research papers and forecasts as they are not the only country with this issue....and it has a dotted line connection to the debate on the free movement of labour. So, over to you for an update, not an argument.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 9:26:10 GMT
Oh for goodness sake, here we go again. Just Google Womenomics. Can't you ever, just once, accept that someone knows more about a subject than you do. Your stats are out of date. I'll be patient with you again, goodness only knows why, you don't deserve it, but here's some context; Baltimore school meals, my information was out of date, you corrected me, I accepted the correction and was happy to add new information to my knowledge base. Today you give out of date information about Japan, I correct you and explain why you are wrong. Your reaction above says everything anybody needs to know about you.
Just one final thing, you were more than happy to reference having lived and worked in America to support an argument you were putting forward.
Beyond Tedious.Happy to accept updated stats and forecasts that improve upon / amend those that I quoted from and provided a link to. But you have not, just another rant which, frankly is irrelevant. The Baltimore thing is long forgotten, like I have said it's not about to winning. However, as you brought it up. That was just another example of you expressing an opinion based upon nothing in particular, it had nothing to do with my time in the States, which in any event is now pretty irrelevant as I came back 25 years of ago. I of course accept your anecdotal evidence of society in Japan, it might even be interesting in that light if you stopped presenting such as an absolute fact. So, Japan. On their own research paper and forecast they are staring into the economic abyss based upon demographic forecasts. I would be genuinely interested if you have updated research papers and forecasts as they are not the only country with this issue....and it has a dotted line connection to the debate on the free movement of labour. So, over to you for an update, not an argument. Not sure why I'm even bothering, as you will still complain about something and say that what I'm telling you is wrong, doesn't qualify as evidence, is flawed or there will be another reason why you won't accept it. Firstly, I'm not giving you any links as I've demonstrated on multiple occasions that you don't look at links I provide for you, so here's some detail. Japanese Women are far higher educated than most western females, around 60% have degrees, US is hovering at around 50%, Japanese Women are more highly educated than their male counterparts, this feeds into what I've been saying about discipline and societal structure, but there are historic issues with taxation, a Husband can use his Wife's tax allowance as long as she doesn't earn more than ¥1.03m that's around £7000 PA at today's exchange rate, that's being changed. There's been a chronic shortage of nursery school provision. That's being addressed. When that paper you produced was drafted I think just over 60% of Women were working, a lot would have been structuring their work to stay within that £7k earning limit. In most countries when a Lady leaves the workforce to start a family she returns within 3 years, in Japan 70% do not return for 10 years. It's not only nursery provision, you know what the Japan trains are like, if a train is due to leave at 5pm it won't leave 20 seconds late, it will leave at 5pm, well, collecting children from primary school is the same, you pick your children up on time. This is a problem with work as it's all but expected that you stay until work is complete, you won't get far in any company if you are stood at the clocking out machine waiting for it to hit the exact time that you finish work, that's just not the culture. It's a very safe country, it's not unusual to see very young children making their own way to school, but if that's not possible and there's no after-school care that was a barrier to female employment, this is now being addressed. I have lots more facts like this. There is a language barrier, and a cultural one, they aren't about to put themselves in a position where fewer than half of the residents of their capital city identify as Japanese, I can promise you, that will never, ever happen, and rightly so, so they are focusing on an underutilised resource that they have at their disposal, but are willing to allow a limited number of lower skilled workers in to fill specific rolls. But they are aware that the countries that these workers may come from have the same demographic issues, so they aren't assuming that there will be any large amount of immigration. The other thing that you aren't allowing for is that with a reduced population, you don't need such a large economy, and if this is played out in other parts of the world, there won't be such a large global market to service. There is such a thing as 'over supply' which is every bit as problematic as insufficient capacity. Then there's increased mechanisation, that will reduce the reliance on labour. Hard to quantify. I've contacted a girl that I know in Tokyo and have asked her for her thoughts on this subject. Will let you know what she says. Is this enough? Edit. It's worth noting, those population forecasts you gave were just ridiculous. This is as mental as Biblical literalists saying that with present population increase rates, if the earth was 13 billion years old, there would be around 20,000,000 people per-square foot. You can't take a number that works for one point in time and continually roll it forward. Please go to the back of the class and write out 100 times; I must not quote as fact every bit of tripe I find that fits with what I'm trying to demonstrate. Thanks.
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Post by BrightonGas on Aug 4, 2020 10:28:56 GMT
Also, isn’t it within the power of the members of that local Tory party to vote to have this guy struck off? I seem to recall some shenanigans where Farage was going to encourage Brexit party voters to infiltrate the Tories and have their pro-Europe MP’s subjected to a vote of no confidence. So it will be interesting to see if his Tory constituents turn a blind eye to this turn of events. Before we judge, let's see the actual charge and what the police do with it. Must be serious though, otherwise they would have made it go away by now
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 13:35:07 GMT
Before we judge, let's see the actual charge and what the police do with it. Must be serious though, otherwise they would have made it go away by now If the police are investigating I presume they are taking it seriously. Strange that the lady concerned waited nearly 4 months to make a formal complaint to the Police after talking to the Whip, suggests she thought some action might be taken at that point. Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 13:41:54 GMT
Happy to accept updated stats and forecasts that improve upon / amend those that I quoted from and provided a link to. But you have not, just another rant which, frankly is irrelevant. The Baltimore thing is long forgotten, like I have said it's not about to winning. However, as you brought it up. That was just another example of you expressing an opinion based upon nothing in particular, it had nothing to do with my time in the States, which in any event is now pretty irrelevant as I came back 25 years of ago. I of course accept your anecdotal evidence of society in Japan, it might even be interesting in that light if you stopped presenting such as an absolute fact. So, Japan. On their own research paper and forecast they are staring into the economic abyss based upon demographic forecasts. I would be genuinely interested if you have updated research papers and forecasts as they are not the only country with this issue....and it has a dotted line connection to the debate on the free movement of labour. So, over to you for an update, not an argument. Not sure why I'm even bothering, as you will still complain about something and say that what I'm telling you is wrong, doesn't qualify as evidence, is flawed or there will be another reason why you won't accept it. Firstly, I'm not giving you any links as I've demonstrated on multiple occasions that you don't look at links I provide for you, so here's some detail. Japanese Women are far higher educated than most western females, around 60% have degrees, US is hovering at around 50%, Japanese Women are more highly educated than their male counterparts, this feeds into what I've been saying about discipline and societal structure, but there are historic issues with taxation, a Husband can use his Wife's tax allowance as long as she doesn't earn more than ¥1.03m that's around £7000 PA at today's exchange rate, that's being changed. There's been a chronic shortage of nursery school provision. That's being addressed. When that paper you produced was drafted I think just over 60% of Women were working, a lot would have been structuring their work to stay within that £7k earning limit. In most countries when a Lady leaves the workforce to start a family she returns within 3 years, in Japan 70% do not return for 10 years. It's not only nursery provision, you know what the Japan trains are like, if a train is due to leave at 5pm it won't leave 20 seconds late, it will leave at 5pm, well, collecting children from primary school is the same, you pick your children up on time. This is a problem with work as it's all but expected that you stay until work is complete, you won't get far in any company if you are stood at the clocking out machine waiting for it to hit the exact time that you finish work, that's just not the culture. It's a very safe country, it's not unusual to see very young children making their own way to school, but if that's not possible and there's no after-school care that was a barrier to female employment, this is now being addressed. I have lots more facts like this. There is a language barrier, and a cultural one, they aren't about to put themselves in a position where fewer than half of the residents of their capital city identify as Japanese, I can promise you, that will never, ever happen, and rightly so, so they are focusing on an underutilised resource that they have at their disposal, but are willing to allow a limited number of lower skilled workers in to fill specific rolls. But they are aware that the countries that these workers may come from have the same demographic issues, so they aren't assuming that there will be any large amount of immigration. The other thing that you aren't allowing for is that with a reduced population, you don't need such a large economy, and if this is played out in other parts of the world, there won't be such a large global market to service. There is such a thing as 'over supply' which is every bit as problematic as insufficient capacity. Then there's increased mechanisation, that will reduce the reliance on labour. Hard to quantify. I've contacted a girl that I know in Tokyo and have asked her for her thoughts on this subject. Will let you know what she says. Is this enough? Edit. It's worth noting, those population forecasts you gave were just ridiculous. This is as mental as Biblical literalists saying that with present population increase rates, if the earth was 13 billion years old, there would be around 20,000,000 people per-square foot. You can't take a number that works for one point in time and continually roll it forward. Please go to the back of the class and write out 100 times; I must not quote as fact every bit of tripe I find that fits with what I'm trying to demonstrate. Thanks. Whatever " It's worth noting, those population forecasts you gave were just ridiculous. This is as mental as Biblical literalists saying that with present population increase rates, if the earth was 13 billion years old, there would be around 20,000,000 people per-square foot. You can't take a number that works for one point in time and continually roll it forward. Please go to the back of the class and write out 100 times; I must not quote as fact every bit of tripe I find that fits with what I'm trying to demonstrate." I did not write that analysis, the Japanese themselves did. I presume they are more than capable of producing statistical analysis and opening it up for peer to review. We know they are. So I will leave it there as just more bluster on your part with not a jot of authorative analysis or empirical evidence to support your narrative. Next.
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