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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 13:53:09 GMT
Not sure why I'm even bothering, as you will still complain about something and say that what I'm telling you is wrong, doesn't qualify as evidence, is flawed or there will be another reason why you won't accept it. Firstly, I'm not giving you any links as I've demonstrated on multiple occasions that you don't look at links I provide for you, so here's some detail. Japanese Women are far higher educated than most western females, around 60% have degrees, US is hovering at around 50%, Japanese Women are more highly educated than their male counterparts, this feeds into what I've been saying about discipline and societal structure, but there are historic issues with taxation, a Husband can use his Wife's tax allowance as long as she doesn't earn more than ¥1.03m that's around £7000 PA at today's exchange rate, that's being changed. There's been a chronic shortage of nursery school provision. That's being addressed. When that paper you produced was drafted I think just over 60% of Women were working, a lot would have been structuring their work to stay within that £7k earning limit. In most countries when a Lady leaves the workforce to start a family she returns within 3 years, in Japan 70% do not return for 10 years. It's not only nursery provision, you know what the Japan trains are like, if a train is due to leave at 5pm it won't leave 20 seconds late, it will leave at 5pm, well, collecting children from primary school is the same, you pick your children up on time. This is a problem with work as it's all but expected that you stay until work is complete, you won't get far in any company if you are stood at the clocking out machine waiting for it to hit the exact time that you finish work, that's just not the culture. It's a very safe country, it's not unusual to see very young children making their own way to school, but if that's not possible and there's no after-school care that was a barrier to female employment, this is now being addressed. I have lots more facts like this. There is a language barrier, and a cultural one, they aren't about to put themselves in a position where fewer than half of the residents of their capital city identify as Japanese, I can promise you, that will never, ever happen, and rightly so, so they are focusing on an underutilised resource that they have at their disposal, but are willing to allow a limited number of lower skilled workers in to fill specific rolls. But they are aware that the countries that these workers may come from have the same demographic issues, so they aren't assuming that there will be any large amount of immigration. The other thing that you aren't allowing for is that with a reduced population, you don't need such a large economy, and if this is played out in other parts of the world, there won't be such a large global market to service. There is such a thing as 'over supply' which is every bit as problematic as insufficient capacity. Then there's increased mechanisation, that will reduce the reliance on labour. Hard to quantify. I've contacted a girl that I know in Tokyo and have asked her for her thoughts on this subject. Will let you know what she says. Is this enough? Edit. It's worth noting, those population forecasts you gave were just ridiculous. This is as mental as Biblical literalists saying that with present population increase rates, if the earth was 13 billion years old, there would be around 20,000,000 people per-square foot. You can't take a number that works for one point in time and continually roll it forward. Please go to the back of the class and write out 100 times; I must not quote as fact every bit of tripe I find that fits with what I'm trying to demonstrate. Thanks. Whatever " It's worth noting, those population forecasts you gave were just ridiculous. This is as mental as Biblical literalists saying that with present population increase rates, if the earth was 13 billion years old, there would be around 20,000,000 people per-square foot. You can't take a number that works for one point in time and continually roll it forward. Please go to the back of the class and write out 100 times; I must not quote as fact every bit of tripe I find that fits with what I'm trying to demonstrate." I did not write that analysis, the Japanese themselves did. I presume they are more than capable of producing statistical analysis and opening it up for peer to review. We know they are. So I will leave it there as just more bluster on your part with not a jot of authorative analysis or empirical evidence to support your narrative. Next. Ask for detail, get it, don't like it because someone is knowledgeable on a subject, so just shout and stick your fingers in your ears. That's you all over. You have serious issues my immature friend. Have been speaking to my friend in Tokyo, she's saying that more Women are working and more are returning to work. Women there run households, Men think they do, but actually it's the girls who make the vast majority of decisions, (so much for your 2nd hand stuff about misogyny, that's kicked that straight in to touch, you can thank me for the correction when you have a minute) there are long term plans openly discussed to keep the economy healthy that involves female participation, Women are buying in to it all over the country, so no catastrophe looming, just mature debate and engagement with the population. That will never happen here because we have so many bigoted ideologs who can't and won't listen when they are corrected. Anyway, not only have you cited research that was published over 4 years ago, so the statistical analysis was conducted probably 5+ years ago, when the measures that I'm talking about were brand new and hadn't had any time to affect the workplace to any great degree, there was already s a serious question mark hanging over the Cohort population model used for that population projection model, see here; link.springer.com/article/10.2165/11593050-000000000-00000As you won't read it, here's the important bit for you, if it's hard just say and I'll make the letters big for you; So the very model used maybe doesn't satisfy a minimum requirement for good quality modelling. Who would have thought it, you didn't research something properly, well I never. Anyway, these projections change. According to the people who produced that piece you are so hung up on, at around the same time that they were capturing data for that paper they were saying that by 2060 the total Japan population will be 89.93m, See here, scroll down to page 13; www.ipss.go.jp/site-ad/index_english/esuikei/ppfj2012.pdf#:~:text=The%20Population%20Projection%20for%20Japan%20is%20based%20on,nine%20projections%E2%80%94one%20for%20each%20combination%20of%20these%20variants. Yet here's a 2020 projection that is saying population in 2060 will be 98.33. This is what happens when you use out of date information, just as I did with Baltimore, you end up being wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 8:51:28 GMT
Thanks for totally ignoring the research that you asked for, always a pleasure to spend an hour putting something like that together for you to not even bother taking the 5 seconds needed to say that you've read it and have taken the content on board. As usual, you pretend that you want research, data, but you don't, all you want is opinion that backs up what you've already decided, but everybody already knows this about you. Anyway, back to the UK. Looks like, having adopted the high risk strategy of ignoring what you write on forums, Boris and his advisors have managed to get the economy going again faster than predicted, even the disgustingly biased BBC can't deny it; www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53675467
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 9:44:14 GMT
Whatever " It's worth noting, those population forecasts you gave were just ridiculous. This is as mental as Biblical literalists saying that with present population increase rates, if the earth was 13 billion years old, there would be around 20,000,000 people per-square foot. You can't take a number that works for one point in time and continually roll it forward. Please go to the back of the class and write out 100 times; I must not quote as fact every bit of tripe I find that fits with what I'm trying to demonstrate." I did not write that analysis, the Japanese themselves did. I presume they are more than capable of producing statistical analysis and opening it up for peer to review. We know they are. So I will leave it there as just more bluster on your part with not a jot of authorative analysis or empirical evidence to support your narrative. Next. Ask for detail, get it, don't like it because someone is knowledgeable on a subject, so just shout and stick your fingers in your ears. That's you all over. You have serious issues my immature friend. Have been speaking to my friend in Tokyo, she's saying that more Women are working and more are returning to work. Women there run households, Men think they do, but actually it's the girls who make the vast majority of decisions, (so much for your 2nd hand stuff about misogyny, that's kicked that straight in to touch, you can thank me for the correction when you have a minute) there are long term plans openly discussed to keep the economy healthy that involves female participation, Women are buying in to it all over the country, so no catastrophe looming, just mature debate and engagement with the population. That will never happen here because we have so many bigoted ideologs who can't and won't listen when they are corrected. Anyway, not only have you cited research that was published over 4 years ago, so the statistical analysis was conducted probably 5+ years ago, when the measures that I'm talking about were brand new and hadn't had any time to affect the workplace to any great degree, there was already s a serious question mark hanging over the Cohort population model used for that population projection model, see here; link.springer.com/article/10.2165/11593050-000000000-00000As you won't read it, here's the important bit for you, if it's hard just say and I'll make the letters big for you; So the very model used maybe doesn't satisfy a minimum requirement for good quality modelling. Who would have thought it, you didn't research something properly, well I never. Anyway, these projections change. According to the people who produced that piece you are so hung up on, at around the same time that they were capturing data for that paper they were saying that by 2060 the total Japan population will be 89.93m, See here, scroll down to page 13; www.ipss.go.jp/site-ad/index_english/esuikei/ppfj2012.pdf#:~:text=The%20Population%20Projection%20for%20Japan%20is%20based%20on,nine%20projections%E2%80%94one%20for%20each%20combination%20of%20these%20variants. Yet here's a 2020 projection that is saying population in 2060 will be 98.33. This is what happens when you use out of date information, just as I did with Baltimore, you end up being wrong. I looked at it and read zero that required comment. "Chatting to my mate in Tokyo" does not constitute empirical evidence. No need to comment on that. A paper on the nature of population studies is interesting and indeed begs a question. But it doesn't prove the paper I quoted from Japan wrong. You stated the stats are out of date. Well, to my layman's eye, population trends cannot be based on 5 year periods. Trends take a decade (at least) to crytralise, to become embedded enough to justify projecting upon. Just a final note, I do read the vast majority of links you post up. I choose not to reply because a) You are seeking argument and not discussion, B) You have a tendancy to quote the opinions of loonies, like the guy in Canada. Within that context it's not worth it. You do give yourself away when you said you spent an hour searching for evidence.😂 Surely the point is when one asserts a point it surely ought to informed, information you could quote almost immediately. What you appear to be doing is making a contrary argument based upon a chat with someone and then asserting it as fact. As in Baltimore, now a lady in Tokyo. I am sure they are perfectly fine people, but just wrong. No need to further this but try and reflect on the meaning of "Empirical Evidence" when quoting, it will avoid further embarrassment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 10:32:52 GMT
Again, you are just showing that you have no idea whatsoever what evidence is or how it's used in debate.
If you read and view the vast majority of links / detail that I post, why do you, after reading / viewing, still make assertions that contradict facts contained therein?
A perfect example being your daft assumption that HMRC lead raids on illegal 'sweat shop' slave labour factories, you continued with this line after I posted a video containing an interview with a high ranking Police officer who explained that the Police lead and co-ordinated the raid and who was involved, you even laughed when I named one of the agencies involved, despite that Police officer naming that agency specifically. So you obviously hadn't watched it.
You are making stuff up to cover your tracks and just making yourself look even sillier. Please stop it and start acting like an adult, then I'll treat you with a bit more respect, presently you are acting like a chump, so that's how you deserve to be treated.
The 'loony' in Canada is a professor with well over 100 peer reviewed published papers, he was a an advisor to Harvard and the UN and has books that have sold tens of millions of copies.
Because he uses long words and says things that you don't agree with doesn't make him wrong.
Why not drop the ad-hominin towards him and prove that he's a 'loony'? Good luck with that.
The fact that you can't even use his name here proves that you didn't look in any detail at his work. Jordan Peterson. Off you go, do some research, try to prove him wrong on something. This will be hilarious.
I didn't say that I spent an hour searching for evidence, what I said was that I spent an hour putting the information together for you. I was aware of it all in broad terms, but I don't save all of these links and some of the papers are quite long, so to be able to copy the correct bits to quote requires a bit of reading. You sound desperate now.
More double standards, no surprise there, you do this all the time, you had no issue quoting some woman you spoke with many years ago who spoke of her opinion on misogyny in Japan, but I'm not allowed to speak to a friend in Tokyo, today, and ask how Abe's 'Wonaomics' policies are working in practice and report back.
Well, now you've done it, you've stated that my friend in Tokyo is wrong, please quantify that positive statement. You can't, so you owe me and her an apology, shall I set up a Skype or Whatsapp or Zoom chat, I'll translate, you can explain to her how she's a victim of an oppressive sexist society, she'll be perfectly polite to your face, but when you are gone she'll tell me what she actually thinks of you. Japanese Women are most certainly not doormats.
So, happy to use a historic research paper, but I mustn't quote a more recent study because it's 5 years newer and shows a different result. You do realise that you are starting to sound quite unhinged, don't you?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 11:06:07 GMT
A lawyer is on to the government re. PPE contracts handed out. Interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 11:21:33 GMT
A lawyer is on to the government re. PPE contracts handed out. Interesting. The same Maugham who writes for The Telegraph, Statesman, and most disgustingly, the paper started in part with money from slave labour in US cotton fields, for which they've never as much as apologised, let alone offered reparations, The Guardian? The same Maugham who spent years attempting to deny democracy by bringing a series of legal challenges to Brexit? The disgusting excuse for a Human being who beat a fox to death? OK then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 12:02:28 GMT
A lawyer is on to the government re. PPE contracts handed out. Interesting. The same Maugham who writes for The Telegraph, Statesman, and most disgustingly, the paper started in part with money from slave labour in US cotton fields, for which they've never as much as apologised, let alone offered reparations, The Guardian? The same Maugham who spent years attempting to deny democracy by bringing a series of legal challenges to Brexit? The disgusting excuse for a Human being who beat a fox to death? OK then. And you are perfect?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 12:22:27 GMT
The same Maugham who writes for The Telegraph, Statesman, and most disgustingly, the paper started in part with money from slave labour in US cotton fields, for which they've never as much as apologised, let alone offered reparations, The Guardian? The same Maugham who spent years attempting to deny democracy by bringing a series of legal challenges to Brexit? The disgusting excuse for a Human being who beat a fox to death? OK then. And you are perfect? Just reviewed my diary, haven't smashed any canidaes to death with a baseball bat in the last few days. And will never, ever, give money to or accept funds from The Guardian until they either apologise, offer reparations or at least admit that they are massive hypocrites, even then, can you imagine being so shallow or confused as to find any value in opinion pieces from the likes of Owen Jones or Laurie Penny? Just to give some context to the slavery thing, they ran a headline about the Colston statue saying that it's removal was 'A long time coming'. Yet when interviewed on the subject of their founder being a slave owner and being on the wrong side of the Civil War, their deputy editor said that the founder's opinions were 'of his time'. They can't have it both ways. Why weren't Colston's views and actions also OK because they were, obviously, by definition 'of his time'? Welcome to the bonkers world of the left, where literally anything and everything makes sense as long as you close your eyes, tap your heels together 3 times and ignore reality.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 12:56:07 GMT
Just reviewed my diary, haven't smashed any canidaes to death with a baseball bat in the last few days. And will never, ever, give money to or accept funds from The Guardian until they either apologise, offer reparations or at least admit that they are massive hypocrites, even then, can you imagine being so shallow or confused as to find any value in opinion pieces from the likes of Owen Jones or Laurie Penny? Just to give some context to the slavery thing, they ran a headline about the Colston statue saying that it's removal was 'A long time coming'. Yet when interviewed on the subject of their founder being a slave owner and being on the wrong side of the Civil War, their deputy editor said that the founder's opinions were 'of his time'. They can't have it both ways. Why weren't Colston's views and actions also OK because they were, obviously, by definition 'of his time'? Welcome to the bonkers world of the left, where literally anything and everything makes sense as long as you close your eyes, tap your heels together 3 times and ignore reality. *Just replying so that these insane posts won't get deleted*
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 13:37:02 GMT
Just reviewed my diary, haven't smashed any canidaes to death with a baseball bat in the last few days. And will never, ever, give money to or accept funds from The Guardian until they either apologise, offer reparations or at least admit that they are massive hypocrites, even then, can you imagine being so shallow or confused as to find any value in opinion pieces from the likes of Owen Jones or Laurie Penny? Just to give some context to the slavery thing, they ran a headline about the Colston statue saying that it's removal was 'A long time coming'. Yet when interviewed on the subject of their founder being a slave owner and being on the wrong side of the Civil War, their deputy editor said that the founder's opinions were 'of his time'. They can't have it both ways. Why weren't Colston's views and actions also OK because they were, obviously, by definition 'of his time'? Welcome to the bonkers world of the left, where literally anything and everything makes sense as long as you close your eyes, tap your heels together 3 times and ignore reality. *Just replying so that these insane posts won't get deleted* Or you could demonstrate that your Man didn't club a fox to death with a baseball bat, or that one of the papers of choice of the left wasn't founded in part with money from slave labour, or you could have said that them claiming that the founder's view that it was OK for one human being to own another as property was just fine as his opinions were 'of his time' are in fact morally reprehensible. The fact that your 'go to' argument is to suggest that it's me who is the problem suggests that you are OK with the above, that's unfortunate. Good luck explaining your views on slavery to BLM activists, that conversation is sure to go well. This is yet another problem with lefties, it's all virtue signalling with zero linked up thinking.
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Post by baggins on Aug 6, 2020 13:52:26 GMT
*Just replying so that these insane posts won't get deleted* Or you could demonstrate that your Man didn't club a fox to death with a baseball bat, or that one of the papers of choice of the left wasn't founded in part with money from slave labour, or you could have said that them claiming that the founder's view that it was OK for one human being to own another as property was just fine as his opinions were 'of his time' are in fact morally reprehensible. The fact that your 'go to' argument is to suggest that it's me who is the problem suggests that you are OK with the above, that's unfortunate. Good luck explaining your views on slavery to BLM activists, that conversation is sure to go well. This is yet another problem with lefties, it's all virtue signalling with zero linked up thinking. Can I ask if you actually support Rovers? Everyone in this part of the forum have posted in Rovers chat, about signings, Colony, Stadium, players, but you only seem to use this part of the forum to put your political view across? Bit strange.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 14:13:29 GMT
Or you could demonstrate that your Man didn't club a fox to death with a baseball bat, or that one of the papers of choice of the left wasn't founded in part with money from slave labour, or you could have said that them claiming that the founder's view that it was OK for one human being to own another as property was just fine as his opinions were 'of his time' are in fact morally reprehensible. The fact that your 'go to' argument is to suggest that it's me who is the problem suggests that you are OK with the above, that's unfortunate. Good luck explaining your views on slavery to BLM activists, that conversation is sure to go well. This is yet another problem with lefties, it's all virtue signalling with zero linked up thinking. Can I ask if you actually support Rovers? Everyone in this part of the forum have posted in Rovers chat, about signings, Colony, Stadium, players, but you only seem to use this part of the forum to put your political view across? Bit strange. You already have asked. Is it a requirement to engage in any particular thread?
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Post by baggins on Aug 6, 2020 14:18:57 GMT
Can I ask if you actually support Rovers? Everyone in this part of the forum have posted in Rovers chat, about signings, Colony, Stadium, players, but you only seem to use this part of the forum to put your political view across? Bit strange. You already have asked. Is it a requirement to engage in any particular thread? Nope, just nice to know googling "who can I push my politics on near me" brings you to Gaschat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 14:34:19 GMT
You already have asked. Is it a requirement to engage in any particular thread? Nope, just nice to know googling "who can I push my politics on near me" brings you to Gaschat. I haven't started a single thread, only replied to things other people have already thrown out there. When asked I've always done my very best to justify anything I've said, and again, when requested I've always attempted to provide supporting evidence for things I've posted. Obviously I'm quite new here, still finding my feet, so can you please explain what the rules are for posting and sharing opinion? But it's a bit confusing, this animal who beat a fox to death with a bat, I didn't introduce him to support my political outlook, I just commented on him once someone else had mentioned the bloke. He happens to write for the Guardian, I'm sure you share my discomfort over their position as highlighted above?
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Post by baggins on Aug 6, 2020 14:40:45 GMT
Nope, just nice to know googling "who can I push my politics on near me" brings you to Gaschat. I haven't started a single thread, only replied to things other people have already thrown out there. When asked I've always done my very best to justify anything I've said, and again, when requested I've always attempted to provide supporting evidence for things I've posted. Obviously I'm quite new here, still finding my feet, so can you please explain what the rules are for posting and sharing opinion? But it's a bit confusing, this animal who beat a fox to death with a bat, I didn't introduce him to support my political outlook, I just commented on him once someone else had mentioned the bloke. He happens to write for the Guardian, I'm sure you share my discomfort over their position as highlighted above? I didn't ask about any of what you've written. Just asked, to find out why you've not posted in anything to do with Rovers? At all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 15:48:59 GMT
I haven't started a single thread, only replied to things other people have already thrown out there. When asked I've always done my very best to justify anything I've said, and again, when requested I've always attempted to provide supporting evidence for things I've posted. Obviously I'm quite new here, still finding my feet, so can you please explain what the rules are for posting and sharing opinion? But it's a bit confusing, this animal who beat a fox to death with a bat, I didn't introduce him to support my political outlook, I just commented on him once someone else had mentioned the bloke. He happens to write for the Guardian, I'm sure you share my discomfort over their position as highlighted above? I didn't ask about any of what you've written. Just asked, to find out why you've not posted in anything to do with Rovers? At all. 😱😂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 17:01:20 GMT
I haven't started a single thread, only replied to things other people have already thrown out there. When asked I've always done my very best to justify anything I've said, and again, when requested I've always attempted to provide supporting evidence for things I've posted. Obviously I'm quite new here, still finding my feet, so can you please explain what the rules are for posting and sharing opinion? But it's a bit confusing, this animal who beat a fox to death with a bat, I didn't introduce him to support my political outlook, I just commented on him once someone else had mentioned the bloke. He happens to write for the Guardian, I'm sure you share my discomfort over their position as highlighted above? I didn't ask about any of what you've written. Just asked, to find out why you've not posted in anything to do with Rovers? At all. That's factually true, you didn't ask about the content of anything that I've posted, but you did comment on it, in that situation it's not unreasonable to expect a reply, unless of course you are playing the modern Lefty game of you being allowed to say whatever you like but trying to silence opposition voices. Yes, I have contributed to the Rovers related section of this forum. So you have that bit factually incorrect.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 18:06:56 GMT
Is there an emoji for polishing sh*t?
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Post by peterparker on Aug 6, 2020 18:13:19 GMT
*Just replying so that these insane posts won't get deleted* Or you could demonstrate that your Man didn't club a fox to death with a baseball bat, or that one of the papers of choice of the left wasn't founded in part with money from slave labour, or you could have said that them claiming that the founder's view that it was OK for one human being to own another as property was just fine as his opinions were 'of his time' are in fact morally reprehensible. The fact that your 'go to' argument is to suggest that it's me who is the problem suggests that you are OK with the above, that's unfortunate. Good luck explaining your views on slavery to BLM activists, that conversation is sure to go well. This is yet another problem with lefties, it's all virtue signalling with zero linked up thinking. But what you did was straight away try to discredit Maughn. I suppose you havent looked at the info in what he is raising as a concern, as you havent tried to justify giving a 250m quid contract for PPE to a company with zero accounts or registered as doing business in such things as PPE
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 18:16:40 GMT
Is there an emoji for polishing sh*t? If there was one for talking it they could put your initials onto it.
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