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Post by aghast on Apr 8, 2022 21:36:35 GMT
Nadine Dorris' two predecessors looked at this but decided it wasn't worth it. So why now?? đ It will appeal to dogmatic Tory voters? Regardless of the worthiness of the exercise and the inevitable downgrading of C4's documentary and film commissions. It'll turn into Channel 5 basically. A great loss if it happens. C4 has been truly groundbreaking.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 8, 2022 21:51:10 GMT
Nadine Dorris' two predecessors looked at this but decided it wasn't worth it. So why now?? đ It will appeal to dogmatic Tory voters? Regardless of the worthiness of the exercise and the inevitable downgrading of C4's documentary and film commissions. It'll turn into Channel 5 basically. A great loss if it happens. C4 has been truly groundbreaking. It has. Did you see Nadine Dorris' appearance at the Select Committee? She didn't realise C4 wasn't publicly funded.
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Post by aghast on Apr 8, 2022 21:56:02 GMT
It has. Did you see Nadine Dorris' appearance Sat the Select Committee? She didn't realise C4 wasn't publicly funded. I did. Excruciating!
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 8, 2022 21:59:30 GMT
Definitely Operation "Get Rishi". Boris doesn't like disloyalty especially as Sunak failed to back him over Partygate and he was looking favourite to replace him had Boris resigned the other month. Wouldn't surprise me if Sunak gets moved after the Local Elections. Now that he's delivered the bad news with tax rises, etc, he'll carry the can for the impending bad results. All subject to the Gray Report, remember that? đś
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Post by fintanstack on Apr 9, 2022 4:59:31 GMT
Definitely Operation "Get Rishi". Boris doesn't like disloyalty especially as Sunak failed to back him over Partygate and he was looking favourite to replace him had Boris resigned the other month. Wouldn't surprise me if Sunak gets moved after the Local Elections. Now that he's delivered the bad news with tax rises, etc, he'll carry the can for the impending bad results. All subject to the Gray Report, remember that? đś I read a news article online yesterday that was discussing a Sunak witch hunt. (I am sorry, I do not remember the source) The journalist was weighing up if it was due to him being targeted by Labour or The Conservatives. The article also appeared to suggest that Team Boris were much more likely to be responsible for the smear campaign.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 9, 2022 7:30:00 GMT
Definitely Operation "Get Rishi". Boris doesn't like disloyalty especially as Sunak failed to back him over Partygate and he was looking favourite to replace him had Boris resigned the other month. Wouldn't surprise me if Sunak gets moved after the Local Elections. Now that he's delivered the bad news with tax rises, etc, he'll carry the can for the impending bad results. All subject to the Gray Report, remember that? đś I read a news article online yesterday that was discussing a Sunak witch hunt. (I am sorry, I do not remember the source) The journalist was weighing up if it was due to him being targeted by Labour or The Conservatives. The article also appeared to suggest that Team Boris were much more likely to be responsible for the smear campaign. No doubt in my mind it's Team Boris. As often been quoted, the Loyal Opposition sits in front of you, the disloyal Opposition sit behind you (or even next door).
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Post by yattongas on Apr 9, 2022 8:03:06 GMT
I read a news article online yesterday that was discussing a Sunak witch hunt. (I am sorry, I do not remember the source) The journalist was weighing up if it was due to him being targeted by Labour or The Conservatives. The article also appeared to suggest that Team Boris were much more likely to be responsible for the smear campaign. No doubt in my mind it's Team Boris. As often been quoted, the Loyal Opposition sits in front of you, the disloyal Opposition sit behind you (or even next door). It doesnât really help him though does it ? This is just another nail in the Tory coffin and their chances of re-election. Rats fighting in a bag as the country falls further down the plug hole.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 9, 2022 8:21:15 GMT
No doubt in my mind it's Team Boris. As often been quoted, the Loyal Opposition sits in front of you, the disloyal Opposition sit behind you (or even next door). It doesnât really help him though does it ? This is just another nail in the Tory coffin and their chances of re-election. Rats fighting in a bag as the country falls further down the plug hole. No but it does deflect attention away from Boris and gives him a sacrificial lamb come a May defeat. I suspect there will be a reshuffle shortly afterwards with several people currently staying loyal looking for promotions. I'll stick my neck out here, I can see Liz Truss becoming Chancellor of the Exchequer (no laughing please, this is on a purely political take not a comment on actual suitability đ) and Ben Wallace taking over as Foreign Secretary.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 10, 2022 18:32:40 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 10, 2022 20:00:20 GMT
A le pen win would be a disaster being a closet Putin supporter and would break apart the current EU solidarity over Ukraine.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 10, 2022 20:22:06 GMT
A le pen win would be a disaster being a closet Putin supporter and would break apart the current EU solidarity over Ukraine. I agree, Schadenfreude aside, a Le Pen win will not be good.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 10, 2022 20:35:35 GMT
She didnât do quite as well as expected so thatâs a good sign. I canât see her getting over 40% when push comes to shove .
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Post by fintanstack on Apr 11, 2022 5:42:20 GMT
She didnât do quite as well as expected so thatâs a good sign. I canât see her getting over 40% when push comes to shove . People voted for Trump, Johnson and Brexit. Don't underestimate idiots.
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 11, 2022 7:33:37 GMT
She didnât do quite as well as expected so thatâs a good sign. I canât see her getting over 40% when push comes to shove . People voted for Trump, Johnson and Brexit. Don't underestimate idiots. I look at it the other way a distinct lack of quality and options available to voters,just like here
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 9:09:04 GMT
A le pen win would be a disaster being a closet Putin supporter and would break apart the current EU solidarity over Ukraine. I agree, Schadenfreude aside, a Le Pen win will not be good. Schadenfreude on what? You'd take pleasure in France getting an openly racist leader or the EU collapsing?
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 11, 2022 9:35:50 GMT
I agree, Schadenfreude aside, a Le Pen win will not be good. Schadenfreude on what? You'd take pleasure in France getting an openly racist leader or the EU collapsing? No, neither. It's more the idea that France being more stupid than us and a reference to the rivalry in Anglo-French relations held by both sides, not me personally. I would take no pleasure in seeing either Le Pen in charge or the collapse in the EU.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 11, 2022 9:51:38 GMT
People voted for Trump, Johnson and Brexit. Don't underestimate idiots. I look at it the other way a distinct lack of quality and options available to voters,just like here Canât agree with this . just because youâre a bit disgruntled with the status quo doesnât mean you should vote for a fascist or something that would harm the country ( Brexit ) . wait a minuteâŚ.. đ
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 9:58:23 GMT
She didnât do quite as well as expected so thatâs a good sign. I canât see her getting over 40% when push comes to shove . People voted for Trump, Johnson and Brexit. Don't underestimate idiots. You'd agree with Platos line of thought, that democracy is basically a sham?
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Post by oldie on Apr 11, 2022 10:23:50 GMT
People voted for Trump, Johnson and Brexit. Don't underestimate idiots. You'd agree with Platos line of thought, that democracy is basically a sham? Allowing people to be stupid is a fundamental principle of democracy.
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Post by fintanstack on Apr 11, 2022 10:46:05 GMT
People voted for Trump, Johnson and Brexit. Don't underestimate idiots. You'd agree with Platos line of thought, that democracy is basically a sham? Definitely. People of certain backgrounds simply don't get the same opportunity or education to make it to the top in politics. When they do they are widely hounded or lambasted by journalists who were also part of the 2 tier education system. Democracy exists to perpetuate the status quo of ensuring the right people are in power. I've read a lot of opinions on these threads and it's almost laughable that anyone genuinely believes voting for a person with a different colour rosette will make the slightest bit of difference. We are all idiots. Educated to be, bred to be and subjugated to be idiots.
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