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Post by peterparker on Apr 12, 2022 13:50:46 GMT
Look there is a war on. didn't you see Johnson look all Prime Ministerial in Ukraine, we really must move on, something, something. something Haha just heard that exact call on the radio š There about. That's the scary thing Got to say, this has topped Rishi's week off hasn't it
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 12, 2022 14:29:34 GMT
Look there is a war on. didn't you see Johnson look all Prime Ministerial in Ukraine, we really must move on, something, something. something Wait for the Sue Gray Report.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 12, 2022 14:44:48 GMT
Look there is a war on. didn't you see Johnson look all Prime Ministerial in Ukraine, we really must move on, something, something. something Haha just heard that exact call on the radio š People like Douglas Ross and Roger Gale, some of his harshest critics, have also said that now is not the time due to the war in Ukraine. Funny how they forgot that Thatcher was ousted for less during the Gulf War.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2022 15:08:10 GMT
50 fines so far , the two top dogs guilty of breaking the law . Is this the final straw for the sycophants?
Of course not ! Vote Tory , Go Boris ! š¬š§
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Post by Gassy on Apr 12, 2022 15:16:54 GMT
Guys itās not his fault though.
Like Rees-Mogg said last week, he was given wrong information!
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2022 15:22:34 GMT
Guys itās not his fault though. Like Rees-Mogg said last week, he was given wrong information! You do realise that Diane Abbot had a mojito on a train donāt you ? š® Go Boris ! š¬š§
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Post by Gassy on Apr 12, 2022 15:24:38 GMT
Guys itās not his fault though. Like Rees-Mogg said last week, he was given wrong information! You do realise that Diane Abbot had a mojito on a train donāt you ? š®Ā Go Boris ! š¬š§Ā Exactly! Mate during lockdown 1.0 we were only allowed to exercise for an hour a day, I went for a 90 minute walk and lived to tell the tale. Weāve all done it, how was he supposed to know he was breaking the law?
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2022 19:30:20 GMT
Still waiting for the hot take from francegas on thisā¦ā¦.. š„±
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Post by aghast on Apr 12, 2022 21:22:01 GMT
Boris must be thanking his lucky stars that Mad Vlad invaded Ukraine.
If not he may well have been out of a job. As it it, events have overtaken his brazen disregard for his own Covid rules and the restrictions he decided applied to all of us except him and his mates, and he will get away with it. Disgraceful behaviour, nevertheless.
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Post by Gassy on Apr 12, 2022 21:52:25 GMT
Still waiting for the hot take from francegas on thisā¦ā¦.. š„± Tbf, he's given his opinion many times on this that Boris should go. Now that it's official, I'd be surprised if he changed his mind.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 13, 2022 7:07:35 GMT
Boris must be thanking his lucky stars that Mad Vlad invaded Ukraine. If not he may well have been out of a job. As it it, events have overtaken his brazen disregard for his own Covid rules and the restrictions he decided applied to all of us except him and his mates, and he will get away with it. Disgraceful behaviour, nevertheless. at the moment there are people saying, the war, bigger things. Johnson could still possibly receive more fines yet. How is that going to go down if he gets a new FPN in say 2 weeks?
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 13, 2022 7:39:27 GMT
Boris must be thanking his lucky stars that Mad Vlad invaded Ukraine. If not he may well have been out of a job. As it it, events have overtaken his brazen disregard for his own Covid rules and the restrictions he decided applied to all of us except him and his mates, and he will get away with it. Disgraceful behaviour, nevertheless. at the moment there are people saying, the war, bigger things. Johnson could still possibly receive more fines yet. How is that going to go down if he gets a new FPN in say 2 weeks? Whilst the war arguement is valid (PR for Russia) there have been several PMs ousted during a conflict, so I suspect the bigger issue is that the Conservatives are heading for a really bad local election campaign in a few weeks and there is no obvious replacement that the party can rally round. If (when) the results are bad then the knives will be out again, even if it's just behind the scenes. Boris has a lot of making up to do, and quickly, with the British people and the Conservate Party. The latter don't tend to tolerate electeral liabilities.
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Post by fintanstack on Apr 13, 2022 9:02:54 GMT
I don't understand the "There is a war on" argument.
Boris has shown he is a weak, cowardly and dishonest leader.
He should be the last person we have in charge at the moment.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 13, 2022 9:21:46 GMT
I don't understand the "There is a war on" argument. Boris has shown he is a weak, cowardly and dishonest leader. He should be the last person we have in charge at the moment. I think Boris (led by Ben Wallace) has done a good job regarding support for Ukraine, we were quick to recognise the threat and send support in terms of equipment, training, international coalition building, intelligence gathering, etc. I am, however, very disheartened by the really slow acceptance of refugees and an insistance of visas before coming here. The argument about there being a war on is not one I share, but it relates to the ousting of a prominent leader and the PR win that Putin will no doubt make the most of. As I mentioned before, there are plenty of examples of changing PM during conflicts, the obvious one being Thatcher and that was when we had 50,000 troops directly involved. In reality, I suspect it is buying time to see how the May elections, and probably the Russian-Ukraine war, go.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 13, 2022 9:55:43 GMT
Still waiting for the hot take from francegas on thisā¦ā¦.. š„± Tbf, he's given his opinion many times on this that Boris should go. Now that it's official, I'd be surprised if he changed his mind. So France agrees Boris has to go ! š„³š„³š„³ I knew heād come aboard in the end š
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Post by aghast on Apr 13, 2022 17:02:11 GMT
I don't understand the "There is a war on" argument. Boris has shown he is a weak, cowardly and dishonest leader. He should be the last person we have in charge at the moment. I think Boris (led by Ben Wallace) has done a good job regarding support for Ukraine, we were quick to recognise the threat and send support in terms of equipment, training, international coalition building, intelligence gathering, etc. Ā I am, however, very disheartened by the really slow acceptance of refugees and an insistance of visas before coming here. The argument about there being a war on is not one I share, but it relates to the ousting of a prominent leader and the PR win that Putin will no doubt make the most of. As I mentioned before, there are plenty of examples of changing PM during conflicts, the obvious one being Thatcher and that was when we had 50,000 troops directly involved. In reality, I suspect it is buying time to see how the May elections, and probably the Russian-Ukraine war, go. I don't take such a sophisticated view about Boris being safe when there's a war on. It's more that society has the attention span of an impatient gnat these days, and his misdemeanours have been forgotten about for a while and therefore devalued.
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Post by oldie on Apr 13, 2022 18:32:42 GMT
I think Boris (led by Ben Wallace) has done a good job regarding support for Ukraine, we were quick to recognise the threat and send support in terms of equipment, training, international coalition building, intelligence gathering, etc. Ā I am, however, very disheartened by the really slow acceptance of refugees and an insistance of visas before coming here. The argument about there being a war on is not one I share, but it relates to the ousting of a prominent leader and the PR win that Putin will no doubt make the most of. As I mentioned before, there are plenty of examples of changing PM during conflicts, the obvious one being Thatcher and that was when we had 50,000 troops directly involved. In reality, I suspect it is buying time to see how the May elections, and probably the Russian-Ukraine war, go. I don't take such a sophisticated view about Boris being safe when there's a war on. It's more that society has the attention span of an impatient gnat these days, and his misdemeanours have been forgotten about for a while and therefore devalued. I am appealing my CPS charge on the basis that it was two years ago, now, I face more important issues. That's ok, right?
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Post by aghast on Apr 13, 2022 20:14:44 GMT
I don't take such a sophisticated view about Boris being safe when there's a war on. It's more that society has the attention span of an impatient gnat these days, and his misdemeanours have been forgotten about for a while and therefore devalued. I am appealing my CPS charge on the basis that it was two years ago, now, I face more important issues. That's ok, right? Well obviously not, but Bozza will probably get away with it, whereas two months ago he might not have. Fickle electorate and society. I'd get rid of the blonde buffoon in a heartbeat if I could, but I only have one vote. So many of us, including several on this forum, predicted that Boris would not take the job seriously and would do whatever suited him. We were right.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 13, 2022 22:15:54 GMT
Mirror and Guardian reporting he's looking at more fines.
In the meantime, immigrants are looking at being sent to Rwanda.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 13, 2022 22:26:30 GMT
Mirror and Guardian reporting he's looking at more fines. In the meantime, immigrants are looking at being sent to Rwanda. Amazing timing of this Rwanda story chucked out just in time to deflect from more fines for Johnson . Itās almost like they plan this stuff š šāā¬
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