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Post by peterparker on Jun 9, 2022 13:50:49 GMT
Plus ca change and all that. I've heard the Thatcher and Major governments do the same, as did New Labour although only for a few years then Gordon Brown opened the chequebook. oh yeah they all do it, just amazed how people fall for it. I mean if you are an even remotely paying attention as a Journo, you note that, and your first question is obvious
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Post by francegas on Jun 9, 2022 14:11:32 GMT
Plus ca change and all that. I've heard the Thatcher and Major governments do the same, as did New Labour although only for a few years then Gordon Brown opened the chequebook. No need for the full stop after chequebook, you could have added "and bankrupt the country". 😂😂
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Post by yattongas on Jun 9, 2022 15:04:06 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 9, 2022 17:04:01 GMT
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Post by aghast on Jun 9, 2022 20:24:03 GMT
Plus ca change and all that. I've heard the Thatcher and Major governments do the same, as did New Labour although only for a few years then Gordon Brown opened the chequebook. No need for the full stop after chequebook, you could have added "and bankrupt the country". 😂😂 What a tiresome cliche. Under Blair and Brown NHS waiting lists were the lowest for a generation, class sizes were the smallest since the 1960s, and 10 years after they took over the budget deficit was lower than the day they started. Then the global financial crisis, caused by American banks and US regulation (or lack of), hit the world economy. Call them warmongers, obsessives, egomaniacs or whatever you want, but don't make up stuff about the undoubted success story the UK economy was from 1997-2008 until events were taken out of their hands...and everyone else's.
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Post by oldie on Jun 9, 2022 20:30:19 GMT
No need for the full stop after chequebook, you could have added "and bankrupt the country". 😂😂 What a tiresome cliche. Under Blair and Brown NHS waiting lists were the lowest for a generation, class sizes were the smallest since the 1960s, and 10 years after they took over the budget deficit was lower than the day they started. Then the global financial crisis, caused by American banks and US regulation (or lack of), hit the world economy. Call them warmongers, obsessives, egomaniacs or whatever you want, but don't make up stuff about the undoubted success story the UK economy was from 1997-2008 until events were taken out of their hands...and everyone else's. Absolutely Aghast. But it's no point making the case based upon facts, such as those you quote. Some cannot add up.
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Post by axegas on Jun 9, 2022 22:47:54 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 9, 2022 22:55:38 GMT
Vote Tory for the good of our country! We’re winning 🇬🇧!
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Post by francegas on Jun 10, 2022 8:05:49 GMT
No need for the full stop after chequebook, you could have added "and bankrupt the country". 😂😂 What a tiresome cliche. Under Blair and Brown NHS waiting lists were the lowest for a generation, class sizes were the smallest since the 1960s, and 10 years after they took over the budget deficit was lower than the day they started. Then the global financial crisis, caused by American banks and US regulation (or lack of), hit the world economy. Call them warmongers, obsessives, egomaniacs or whatever you want, but don't make up stuff about the undoubted success story the UK economy was from 1997-2008 until events were taken out of their hands...and everyone else's. Hang on a minute I never mentioned the NHS or School class sizes I was just commenting about the state of the economy when Brown got booted out. Must have been bad for liam Byrne to leave a note to his successor saying "I'm afraid there is no money". It is also disputed that class size has a major impact on education standards. After all why have GCSE pass rates hit an all time high. Why have pass rates increased since 2010, and why have OFSTED rated 86% of schools as good or outstanding in 2020 compared with 68% in 2010? After all would you want your child educated by a poor teacher in a poorly rated school in a class size (for example) of 18 , or by a very good teacher in an outstanding rated school in a class size of say 25? I'll give you NHS waiting lists . Others on here like to say it was a global recession in 2008 starting in the US so Gordon Brown was not at fault, however when I point out there has been a 2 year global pandemic which has impacted our and the worlds economies plus a war in Ukraine that is just pushed to one side saying it' just the Tories who are to blame as it's under their watch. Or as Yatton likes to blame everything on it's the fault of Brexit. Well wasn't 2008 under Browns watch.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2022 8:11:49 GMT
What a tiresome cliche. Under Blair and Brown NHS waiting lists were the lowest for a generation, class sizes were the smallest since the 1960s, and 10 years after they took over the budget deficit was lower than the day they started. Then the global financial crisis, caused by American banks and US regulation (or lack of), hit the world economy. Call them warmongers, obsessives, egomaniacs or whatever you want, but don't make up stuff about the undoubted success story the UK economy was from 1997-2008 until events were taken out of their hands...and everyone else's. Hang on a minute I never mentioned the NHS or School class sizes I was just commenting about the state of the economy when Brown got booted out. Must have been bad for liam Byrne to leave a note to his successor saying "I'm afraid there is no money". It is also disputed that class size has a major impact on education standards. After all why have GCSE pass rates hit an all time high. Why have pass rates increased since 2010, and why have OFSTED rated 86% of schools as good or outstanding in 2020 compared with 68% in 2010? After all would you want your child educated by a poor teacher in a poorly rated school in a class size (for example) of 18 , or by a very good teacher in an outstanding rated school in a class size of say 25? I'll give you NHS waiting lists . Others on here like to say it was a global recession in 2008 starting in the US so Gordon Brown was not at fault, however when I point out there has been a 2 year global pandemic which has impacted our and the worlds economies plus a war in Ukraine that is just pushed to one side saying it' just the Tories who are to blame as it's under their watch. Or as Yatton likes to blame everything on it's the fault of Brexit. Well wasn't 2008 under Browns watch. Yatton doesn’t blame everything is the fault of Brexit. What he says is everything is even worse because of Brexit . Keep up old boy . 😃👍
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2022 8:17:37 GMT
We hope to go to France later this year. Blue badge is now invalid and we can't take food with us for the journey. Mobile roaming charges now apply.
Mind you, the kid's new passports look pretty good 👍
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Post by oldie on Jun 10, 2022 8:24:26 GMT
What a tiresome cliche. Under Blair and Brown NHS waiting lists were the lowest for a generation, class sizes were the smallest since the 1960s, and 10 years after they took over the budget deficit was lower than the day they started. Then the global financial crisis, caused by American banks and US regulation (or lack of), hit the world economy. Call them warmongers, obsessives, egomaniacs or whatever you want, but don't make up stuff about the undoubted success story the UK economy was from 1997-2008 until events were taken out of their hands...and everyone else's. Hang on a minute I never mentioned the NHS or School class sizes I was just commenting about the state of the economy when Brown got booted out. Must have been bad for liam Byrne to leave a note to his successor saying "I'm afraid there is no money". It is also disputed that class size has a major impact on education standards. After all why have GCSE pass rates hit an all time high. Why have pass rates increased since 2010, and why have OFSTED rated 86% of schools as good or outstanding in 2020 compared with 68% in 2010? After all would you want your child educated by a poor teacher in a poorly rated school in a class size (for example) of 18 , or by a very good teacher in an outstanding rated school in a class size of say 25? I'll give you NHS waiting lists . Others on here like to say it was a global recession in 2008 starting in the US so Gordon Brown was not at fault, however when I point out there has been a 2 year global pandemic which has impacted our and the worlds economies plus a war in Ukraine that is just pushed to one side saying it' just the Tories who are to blame as it's under their watch. Or as Yatton likes to blame everything on it's the fault of Brexit. Well wasn't 2008 under Browns watch. The basic point being France was that in that period to 2007 there was a large increase in NHS budgets and also education. Should I mention Sure Start? But the National Debt expressed as a % of GDP barely changed at 48%. The subsequent financial market crash which had it's roots in mortgage fraud in the USA required the Keynesian response that Sunak used in response to the pandemic. It was what then happened after 2010. Parroting the "debt" issue your party slashed public spending across the piece causing a big decline in operational standards. All in the name of debt reduction. But they didn't. National Debt rose by nearly 40%. We went into the pandemic against that backdrop and now debt is around 100% of GDP. And growing. Our public services are shambolic, our economic growth (stripping out pandemic bounce back) is anemic, private sector investment is flat lining. And your party in government is flailing around led my a morally bankrupt man. Nice, you must be proud.
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Post by francegas on Jun 10, 2022 9:52:41 GMT
We hope to go to France later this year. Blue badge is now invalid and we can't take food with us for the journey. Mobile roaming charges now apply. Mind you, the kid's new passports look pretty good 👍 Have you confirmed the issue of the Blue Badge with the French Embassy. I ask because nothing seems to have been updated on the internet since last September where it states check with the French embassy as France is undecided whether to accept the UK Blue badge along with 5/6 other EU countries whilst all the others will accept it. (Hardly the EU in unison on this matter). I would add the UK does recognise the French card so looks like a case of the french just being bloody minded towards the UK . Don't understand your comment about food on the journey. No one I know who regularly travels back to the UK has ever mentioned being stopped at the port/eurotunnel for having a sandwich in their car or transporting food from the UK to France. Yes roaming charges are a pain however I thought it was a case of you only pay charges if you have upgraded your phone or changed your contract since brexit. If you are still under a contract with free roaming then it should be honoured by your mobile phone company. I negotiated with vodaphone UK a few months back when I came to the end of my contract a new contract with continued free roaming. I would also add that the majority of bars restaurants etc in France offer free wifi and many villages towns and cities offer free wifi within their boundaries. I can understand it being a problem though if you use your gps on your phone rather than a car sat nav. Glad you like the new passports.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 10, 2022 10:40:28 GMT
We hope to go to France later this year. Blue badge is now invalid and we can't take food with us for the journey. Mobile roaming charges now apply. Mind you, the kid's new passports look pretty good 👍 Have you confirmed the issue of the Blue Badge with the French Embassy. I ask because nothing seems to have been updated on the internet since last September where it states check with the French embassy as France is undecided whether to accept the UK Blue badge along with 5/6 other EU countries whilst all the others will accept it. (Hardly the EU in unison on this matter). I would add the UK does recognise the French card so looks like a case of the french just being bloody minded towards the UK . Don't understand your comment about food on the journey. No one I know who regularly travels back to the UK has ever mentioned being stopped at the port/eurotunnel for having a sandwich in their car or transporting food from the UK to France. Yes roaming charges are a pain however I thought it was a case of you only pay charges if you have upgraded your phone or changed your contract since brexit. If you are still under a contract with free roaming then it should be honoured by your mobile phone company. I negotiated with vodaphone UK a few months back when I came to the end of my contract a new contract with continued free roaming. I would also add that the majority of bars restaurants etc in France offer free wifi and many villages towns and cities offer free wifi within their boundaries. I can understand it being a problem though if you use your gps on your phone rather than a car sat nav. Glad you like the new passports. I'll need to check but I do know someone who has been fined in Spain. I think the food rules don't apply for personal use but not too sure. It's something my wife noticed yesterday and I've not had chance to check, although this is interesting: ec.europa.eu/food/animals/animal-products-movements/personal-imports_enThe passports are genuinely nice, although something we could always have had.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2022 10:44:16 GMT
Have you confirmed the issue of the Blue Badge with the French Embassy. I ask because nothing seems to have been updated on the internet since last September where it states check with the French embassy as France is undecided whether to accept the UK Blue badge along with 5/6 other EU countries whilst all the others will accept it. (Hardly the EU in unison on this matter). I would add the UK does recognise the French card so looks like a case of the french just being bloody minded towards the UK . Don't understand your comment about food on the journey. No one I know who regularly travels back to the UK has ever mentioned being stopped at the port/eurotunnel for having a sandwich in their car or transporting food from the UK to France. Yes roaming charges are a pain however I thought it was a case of you only pay charges if you have upgraded your phone or changed your contract since brexit. If you are still under a contract with free roaming then it should be honoured by your mobile phone company. I negotiated with vodaphone UK a few months back when I came to the end of my contract a new contract with continued free roaming. I would also add that the majority of bars restaurants etc in France offer free wifi and many villages towns and cities offer free wifi within their boundaries. I can understand it being a problem though if you use your gps on your phone rather than a car sat nav. Glad you like the new passports. I'll need to check but I do know someone who has been fined in Spain. I think the food rules don't apply for personal use but not too sure. It's something my wife noticed yesterday and I've not had chance to check, although this is interesting: ec.europa.eu/food/animals/animal-products-movements/personal-imports_enThe passports are genuinely nice, although something we could always have had. You’ll be alright with the food stuff if you’re going over by ferry or through the tunnel
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Post by axegas on Jun 10, 2022 11:22:04 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2022 19:41:19 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 14, 2022 22:32:24 GMT
To add to the billions & millions of pounds wasted by this mob …. Add another 500k on a flight to Rwanda with nobody aboard 🙄
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Post by oldie on Jun 14, 2022 22:44:49 GMT
To add to the billions & millions of pounds wasted by this mob …. Add another 500k on a flight to Rwanda with nobody aboard 🙄 Can we nominate Brits to send there? Seriously, if this fiasco was a skit from Monty Python, we would call it to stupid to be taken seriously. But here we are.
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Post by francegas on Jun 15, 2022 7:36:09 GMT
To add to the billions & millions of pounds wasted by this mob …. Add another 500k on a flight to Rwanda with nobody aboard 🙄 You forget to add it was the European Court of Human Rights who blocked the flight so not exactly the governments fault the plane never took off.
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