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Post by yattongas on Jun 16, 2022 17:25:38 GMT
That’s great . Good on them 👏 All part of the Tories high wage economy, so you’ll be fully behind them I’m guessing ?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 16, 2022 17:28:38 GMT
Just a question to "Sir" Keir (and to all you lefty loons) Do you or do you not support the forthcoming rail strikes? "Sir" Keir seems incapable of answering the question?, so was wondering what your thoughts were. I support their right to strike, do you?
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Post by francegas on Jun 16, 2022 19:10:11 GMT
Just a question to "Sir" Keir (and to all you lefty loons) Do you or do you not support the forthcoming rail strikes? "Sir" Keir seems incapable of answering the question?, so was wondering what your thoughts were. I support their right to strike, do you? Only if everyone no matter what their profession was able to.. then yes. Otherwise no I don't. They earn enough so should thank their lucky stars that they are in a well paid job.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 16, 2022 19:22:00 GMT
I support their right to strike, do you? Only if everyone no matter what their profession was able to.. then yes. Otherwise no I don't. They earn enough so should thank their lucky stars that they are in a well paid job. Extending the right to strike? Pleasantly surprised, although I can see why the police and prison officers aren't allowed.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 16, 2022 19:34:50 GMT
I support their right to strike, do you? Only if everyone no matter what their profession was able to.. then yes. Otherwise no I don't. They earn enough so should thank their lucky stars that they are in a well paid job. Most of those workers aren’t on the good salary’s the train drivers are on. You need to look beyond the headlines my friend .
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 16, 2022 19:35:58 GMT
Anyone know what pay increase politicians gave themselves? I think you'll find politicians don't give themselves a pay rise it's the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority who sets their pay. Independent my arse.
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Post by francegas on Jun 16, 2022 20:33:12 GMT
I think you'll find politicians don't give themselves a pay rise it's the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority who sets their pay. Independent my arse. Well they determine the pay rise of MPs be they on the left or right it's the same across the board.
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Post by francegas on Jun 16, 2022 20:45:50 GMT
Only if everyone no matter what their profession was able to.. then yes. Otherwise no I don't. They earn enough so should thank their lucky stars that they are in a well paid job. Most of those workers aren’t on the good salary’s the train drivers are on. You need to look beyond the headlines my friend . Yatton when I was a high street bank manager I remember interviewing a lady who wanted a loan for a family holiday. When I asked her what her income was she said £28k. I asked her what her occupation was and she said Oh I don't work it's all from benefits. She at the time was receiving more in benefits than I was as a bank manager. Should I have walked out on strike because someone was receiving a higher income on benefits than I was receiving after 20 years slogging my arse off in the bank? Whilst unions can assist workers in some instances they are the scourge on society. Good on Maggie T who did her best to get rid of unions and the havoc they created.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 16, 2022 21:10:49 GMT
Most of those workers aren’t on the good salary’s the train drivers are on. You need to look beyond the headlines my friend . Yatton when I was a high street bank manager I remember interviewing a lady who wanted a loan for a family holiday. When I asked her what her income was she said £28k. I asked her what her occupation was and she said Oh I don't work it's all from benefits. She at the time was receiving more in benefits than I was as a bank manager. Should I have walked out on strike because someone was receiving a higher income on benefits than I was receiving after 20 years slogging my arse off in the bank? Whilst unions can assist workers in some instances they are the scourge on society. Good on Maggie T who did her best to get rid of unions and the havoc they created. Your isolated experience 20 odd years ago has got nothing to do with workers wanting a pay increase that keeps up with inflation today. Otherwise they are having a pay cut . We’re talking about people with a job , not those without.
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 17, 2022 5:10:57 GMT
Most of those workers aren’t on the good salary’s the train drivers are on. You need to look beyond the headlines my friend . Yatton when I was a high street bank manager I remember interviewing a lady who wanted a loan for a family holiday. When I asked her what her income was she said £28k. I asked her what her occupation was and she said Oh I don't work it's all from benefits. She at the time was receiving more in benefits than I was as a bank manager. Should I have walked out on strike because someone was receiving a higher income on benefits than I was receiving after 20 years slogging my arse off in the bank? Whilst unions can assist workers in some instances they are the scourge on society. Good on Maggie T who did her best to get rid of unions and the havoc they created. I no longer have any respect for any of your opinions. Thatcher was the worst thing to ever happen to UK politics and many of today's problems can be directly linked to her.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 17, 2022 5:55:08 GMT
Yatton when I was a high street bank manager I remember interviewing a lady who wanted a loan for a family holiday. When I asked her what her income was she said £28k. I asked her what her occupation was and she said Oh I don't work it's all from benefits. She at the time was receiving more in benefits than I was as a bank manager. Should I have walked out on strike because someone was receiving a higher income on benefits than I was receiving after 20 years slogging my arse off in the bank? Whilst unions can assist workers in some instances they are the scourge on society. Good on Maggie T who did her best to get rid of unions and the havoc they created. I no longer have any respect for any of your opinions. Thatcher was the worst thing to ever happen to UK politics and many of today's problems can be directly linked to her. Bit harsh . France is a good bloke , just a bit misguided 😂👍
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Post by francegas on Jun 17, 2022 7:17:29 GMT
Yatton when I was a high street bank manager I remember interviewing a lady who wanted a loan for a family holiday. When I asked her what her income was she said £28k. I asked her what her occupation was and she said Oh I don't work it's all from benefits. She at the time was receiving more in benefits than I was as a bank manager. Should I have walked out on strike because someone was receiving a higher income on benefits than I was receiving after 20 years slogging my arse off in the bank? Whilst unions can assist workers in some instances they are the scourge on society. Good on Maggie T who did her best to get rid of unions and the havoc they created. I no longer have any respect for any of your opinions. Thatcher was the worst thing to ever happen to UK politics and many of today's problems can be directly linked to her. I didn't think you ever did!! Your opinion is she was the worst, my opinion is she was one of the best. It's all opinions doesn't make you right and me wrong or vice versa and I won't throw my toys out the pram because your opinion differs from mine. If you think many of today's problems can be directly linked to her then it just shows how useless UK governments have been over the past 32 years for failing to resolve those problems.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 17, 2022 7:51:10 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 17, 2022 8:00:09 GMT
Funnily enough my view has mellowed slightly over the years especially as I've been able to understand the 70s better and how she came about.
Mind you, in the late 80s I got an A in my English essay for a piece on how bad Thatcher and the Tories were. 😁
Worst PM in my lifetime.....Boris by a long way.
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Post by oldie on Jun 17, 2022 10:04:55 GMT
Funnily enough my view has mellowed slightly over the years especially as I've been able to understand the 70s better and how she came about. Mind you, in the late 80s I got an A in my English essay for a piece on how bad Thatcher and the Tories were. 😁 Worst PM in my lifetime.....Boris by a long way. Many candidates for that crown Stuart. The thing with Thatcher (and Reagan) was the crass crudeness of her ideology and simplistic responses to complex issues. Take the run down of the UK's industrial and primary industry base. Was the "laissez-faire" policy the right one? It was if you were a disciple of Friedrich Hayek, which she was. But if you adopt that policy to commerce, should you do the same to the issues in society which this creates. She did and it is that which has created many of the issues we still live with today.
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 17, 2022 16:50:22 GMT
I no longer have any respect for any of your opinions. Thatcher was the worst thing to ever happen to UK politics and many of today's problems can be directly linked to her. I didn't think you ever did!! Your opinion is she was the worst, my opinion is she was one of the best. It's all opinions doesn't make you right and me wrong or vice versa and I won't throw my toys out the pram because your opinion differs from mine. If you think many of today's problems can be directly linked to her then it just shows how useless UK governments have been over the past 32 years for failing to resolve those problems. It is difficult to re-nationalize coal gas and oil, railways, build affordable council housing and stop a culture of greed and selfishness.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 17, 2022 19:39:02 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 18, 2022 0:21:53 GMT
I see Boris flew to a warzone to avoid speaking to northerners. 😃
Hasn't gone down well with Red Wall Tories, was supposed to be a levelling up conference.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 18, 2022 7:37:12 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2022 13:24:00 GMT
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