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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 18, 2022 11:14:06 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jul 18, 2022 11:59:17 GMT
Shame , it was great fun listening to them rip each other apart. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 18, 2022 12:58:13 GMT
That's exactly it. Having the light shone on them has forced them back under a stone. |
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Post by fintanstack on Jul 18, 2022 14:02:51 GMT
Very sad. MPs should be able to debate and disagree regardless of party.
The whip system is bad for democracy and I personally thought seeing top politicians properly debate on their own merits and principles was good for us plebs.
The party system is a farce anyway.
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Post by oldie on Jul 18, 2022 14:46:08 GMT
Very sad. MPs should be able to debate and disagree regardless of party. The whip system is bad for democracy and I personally thought seeing top politicians properly debate on their own merits and principles was good for us plebs. The party system is a farce anyway. Sadly I agree with that last sentence. However I have no idea what to replace it with. |
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Post by Gassy on Jul 18, 2022 14:48:05 GMT
Very sad. MPs should be able to debate and disagree regardless of party. The whip system is bad for democracy and I personally thought seeing top politicians properly debate on their own merits and principles was good for us plebs. The party system is a farce anyway. Sadly I agree with that last sentence. However I have no idea what to replace it with. It should go to GE. I believe it always should when a PM resigns/fired/forced to quit. And yes, before FG asks - the same should have happened when Blair went. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 18, 2022 15:07:33 GMT
Sadly I agree with that last sentence. However I have no idea what to replace it with. It should go to GE. I believe it always should when a PM resigns/fired/forced to quit. And yes, before FG asks - the same should have happened when Blair went. Problem is that Boris wouldn't have been ousted at this point, he'd still be here until the last minute. |
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Post by peterparker on Jul 18, 2022 16:45:33 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 18, 2022 18:47:02 GMT
The last round gave:
Sunak - 101
Mordaunt - 83
Truss - 64
Badenoch - 49
Tugendhat - 32
Braverman - 27
I reckon Braverman's support will mostly go to Truss and Tugendhat will lose another 8 to Mordaunt and Sunak evenly.
My guess for tonight is:
Sunak - 107
Mordaunt - 90
Truss - 85
Badenoch - 51
Tugendhat - 24
Then Tugendhat's supporters will mainly back Mordaunt while Badenoch's will mainly go to Truss, meaning Truss just beats Mordaunt.
We'll see. 👀
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Post by peterparker on Jul 18, 2022 19:24:59 GMT
The last round gave: Sunak - 101 Mordaunt - 83 Truss - 64 Badenoch - 49 Tugendhat - 32 Braverman - 27 I reckon Braverman's support will mostly go to Truss and Tugendhat will lose another 8 to Mordaunt and Sunak evenly. My guess for tonight is: Sunak - 107 Mordaunt - 90 Truss - 85 Badenoch - 51 Tugendhat - 24 Then Tugendhat's supporters will mainly back Mordaunt while Badenoch's will mainly go to Truss, meaning Truss just beats Mordaunt. We'll see. 👀 And the result is Rishi Sunak - 115 Penny Mordaunt - 82 Liz Truss - 71 Kemi Badenoch - 58 Tom Tugendhat - 31 |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 18, 2022 19:28:49 GMT
The last round gave: Sunak - 101 Mordaunt - 83 Truss - 64 Badenoch - 49 Tugendhat - 32 Braverman - 27 I reckon Braverman's support will mostly go to Truss and Tugendhat will lose another 8 to Mordaunt and Sunak evenly. My guess for tonight is: Sunak - 107 Mordaunt - 90 Truss - 85 Badenoch - 51 Tugendhat - 24 Then Tugendhat's supporters will mainly back Mordaunt while Badenoch's will mainly go to Truss, meaning Truss just beats Mordaunt. We'll see. 👀 Sunak 112 Truss 88 Mourdant 85 Badenoch 65 Tugendhat 17 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 18, 2022 19:30:00 GMT
The last round gave: Sunak - 101 Mordaunt - 83 Truss - 64 Badenoch - 49 Tugendhat - 32 Braverman - 27 I reckon Braverman's support will mostly go to Truss and Tugendhat will lose another 8 to Mordaunt and Sunak evenly. My guess for tonight is: Sunak - 107 Mordaunt - 90 Truss - 85 Badenoch - 51 Tugendhat - 24 Then Tugendhat's supporters will mainly back Mordaunt while Badenoch's will mainly go to Truss, meaning Truss just beats Mordaunt. We'll see. 👀 And the result is Rishi Sunak - 115 Penny Mordaunt - 82 Liz Truss - 71 Kemi Badenoch - 58 Tom Tugendhat - 31 So Sunak +14, Mordaunt-1, Truss +7, Badenoch +9, Tugendhat-1 with 27 votes to divide up from Braverman. |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 18, 2022 19:30:10 GMT
The last round gave: Sunak - 101 Mordaunt - 83 Truss - 64 Badenoch - 49 Tugendhat - 32 Braverman - 27 I reckon Braverman's support will mostly go to Truss and Tugendhat will lose another 8 to Mordaunt and Sunak evenly. My guess for tonight is: Sunak - 107 Mordaunt - 90 Truss - 85 Badenoch - 51 Tugendhat - 24 Then Tugendhat's supporters will mainly back Mordaunt while Badenoch's will mainly go to Truss, meaning Truss just beats Mordaunt. We'll see. 👀 And the result is Rishi Sunak - 115 Penny Mordaunt - 82 Liz Truss - 71 Kemi Badenoch - 58 Tom Tugendhat - 31 Haha was doing my guess as you were putting up the results . I’m watching the footy 👀 ⚽️ |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 18, 2022 19:35:34 GMT
Mourdant is a busted flush .
It’s a Truss v Sunak final
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Post by oldie on Jul 18, 2022 19:45:19 GMT
Mourdant is a busted flush . It’s a Truss v Sunak final Truss is just an idiot. Mordaunt was caught in the headlights. |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 18, 2022 19:58:28 GMT
Mourdant is a busted flush . It’s a Truss v Sunak final Truss is just an idiot. Mordaunt was caught in the headlights. It’s hilarious isn’t it ? I can see her winning the Tory party vote as well . Can you imagine it 😮 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 18, 2022 20:42:24 GMT
Truss is just an idiot. Mordaunt was caught in the headlights. It’s hilarious isn’t it ? I can see her winning the Tory party vote as well . Can you imagine it 😮 A Boris Johnson Tribute Act, but without the charisma. 😃 |
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Post by oldie on Jul 18, 2022 20:43:10 GMT
Truss is just an idiot. Mordaunt was caught in the headlights. It’s hilarious isn’t it ? I can see her winning the Tory party vote as well . Can you imagine it 😮 Truss as PM...oh my god..she will make Johnson look vaguely intelligent |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 18, 2022 21:13:56 GMT
It’s hilarious isn’t it ? I can see her winning the Tory party vote as well . Can you imagine it 😮 Truss as PM...oh my god..she will make Johnson look vaguely intelligent I did warn you all a while back. 😇 Mind you, I'd still prefer her to Boris. Sunak remains the least incompetent of the lot and fairly plausible, still not sure the membership will take to him. They could be persuaded by the volume of MPs supporting them but Truss has long been a favourite, only beaten recently by Ben Wallace. Kemi Badenoch looks likely to go next, where she and her support go will determine Truss or Mordaunt takes on Sunak in the run off. |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 18, 2022 21:26:08 GMT
Truss as PM...oh my god..she will make Johnson look vaguely intelligent I did warn you all a while back. 😇 Mind you, I'd still prefer her to Boris. Sunak remains the least incompetent of the lot and fairly plausible, still not sure the membership will take to him. They could be persuaded by the volume of MPs supporting them but Truss has long been a favourite, only beaten recently by Ben Wallace. Kemi Badenoch looks likely to go next, where she and her support go will determine Truss or Mordaunt takes on Sunak in the run off. Badenoch’s votes will go to Truss . She’ll get a cabinet seat in the shady deal . The Tory party will lurch even further to the right and Francegas will still be waving his flag in support. |
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