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Post by yattongas on Aug 4, 2022 21:53:13 GMT
100%. The 1709 recession is why I’ll never vote Labour again It was also the fault of Labour in 1066. Mock as you might but you’re totally dismissing the glory days under great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather Corbyn 406-412 . |
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Post by aghast on Aug 4, 2022 22:11:52 GMT
Because a private pension which invests in companies such as BP, which contributes to their profits, will also in the long term benefit you. Also I take it you have never owned an Apple phone or bought anything on Amazon because their profits are far greater than BP. Plus BP will be issuing share dividends to share holders from those profits. See above post from fintanstack who puts it better than me. For the record I don't buy anything Apple. I don't like companies that try to monopolise the market and tie you in to their brand. Amazon, I will hold my hands up I am a bit of a hypocrite. I hate them as they have a monopoly, have ruined communities, creepy how they use and gain people's data for their own advantages, bad for the environment, bad for customer choice and competition but I have a young family and like many people prioritise convenience and time over a lot of things. There are loads of alternatives to Amazon. You just need to search around. I ordered something yesterday (some fabric paint for what it's worth) on a website that cost less than Amazon, for the identical product, with free next day delivery without having to sign up to Prime, and it arrived this afternoon. It takes a bit of effort though and I admit Amazon is incredibly convenient. |
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Post by aghast on Aug 4, 2022 22:19:13 GMT
Yes, but they were all the fault of Labour. Trouble is that the population believe the mantra that the Tories are the party of sound money management, and the mistakes made by all governments but especially Labour ones 50 years ago, are the cause of all our ills. Oh, and also letting immigrants in. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 5, 2022 5:15:48 GMT
See above post from fintanstack who puts it better than me. For the record I don't buy anything Apple. I don't like companies that try to monopolise the market and tie you in to their brand. Amazon, I will hold my hands up I am a bit of a hypocrite. I hate them as they have a monopoly, have ruined communities, creepy how they use and gain people's data for their own advantages, bad for the environment, bad for customer choice and competition but I have a young family and like many people prioritise convenience and time over a lot of things. There are loads of alternatives to Amazon. You just need to search around. I ordered something yesterday (some fabric paint for what it's worth) on a website that cost less than Amazon, for the identical product, with free next day delivery without having to sign up to Prime, and it arrived this afternoon. It takes a bit of effort though and I admit Amazon is incredibly convenient. Yeah and I do some shopping around trust me. I love getting value for money. As I'm getting older though I just have less and less time! |
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Post by peterparker on Aug 5, 2022 8:26:34 GMT
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2022 8:51:20 GMT
Are you sure that tweet is factually correct? Just asking because wasn't there was a recession in the UK in Q2 & Q3 of 1975 under Harold Wilson ? |
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Post by peterparker on Aug 5, 2022 9:15:51 GMT
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2022 9:19:09 GMT
Well well well "Sir" Keir Starmer found to have breached MPs code of conduct "EIGHT" times.
Will any action be taken against him...of course not. A case of double standards.
Will Hatchet Harriet Harman try to get him kicked out of his parliamentary seat like she is trying to do with Boris....of course not.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 5, 2022 9:39:23 GMT
Ah classic. He didn’t submit his gifts on time. Because that’s the same as law breaking and knowingly lying to parliament.
Let’s see if the Tories try to use this to get him to resign, that’ll tell us the real severity of his crimes. What do you think they’ll do, FG?
The investigator said, “Ms Stone said the eight breaches "were minor and/or inadvertent", and "there was no attempt to mislead".
But she has asked Sir Keir to meet the registrar of members' financial interests to discuss his obligations within Parliamentary rules - which he will do on on 25 August.
In a letter to Ms Stone, the Labour leader wrote that the late declarations were the "result of an administrative error within my office" and said he took full responsibility and apologised.
A Labour Party spokesperson said: "Keir Starmer takes his responsibilities to the Register very seriously and has apologised to the Commissioner for this inadvertent error.”
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2022 9:51:53 GMT
Ah classic. He didn’t submit his gifts on time. Because that’s the same as law breaking and knowingly lying to parliament. Let’s see if the Tories try to use this to get him to resign, that’ll tell us the real severity of his crimes. What do you think they’ll do, FG? The investigator said, “Ms Stone said the eight breaches "were minor and/or inadvertent", and "there was no attempt to mislead". But she has asked Sir Keir to meet the registrar of members' financial interests to discuss his obligations within Parliamentary rules - which he will do on on 25 August. In a letter to Ms Stone, the Labour leader wrote that the late declarations were the "result of an administrative error within my office" and said he took full responsibility and apologised. A Labour Party spokesperson said: "Keir Starmer takes his responsibilities to the Register very seriously and has apologised to the Commissioner for this inadvertent error.” If I'd typed your first paragraph everyone would be on it saying a classic case oh Whataboutery. No the tories will not try to get him to resign, as labour did with Boris, probably because they have more important things to be getting on with. They may be minor but they are all breaches of the MPs code of conduct and he should know better. Imagine had it been a tory MP everyone on here would be all over it like a rash, and I think deep down you know that. Typical response from labour quoting an administrative error. A little bit like their error in stating Angie wasn't at Keirs part of curry and beer....oops I mean mid work break to eat. |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 5, 2022 10:05:13 GMT
Ah classic. He didn’t submit his gifts on time. Because that’s the same as law breaking and knowingly lying to parliament. Let’s see if the Tories try to use this to get him to resign, that’ll tell us the real severity of his crimes. What do you think they’ll do, FG? The investigator said, “Ms Stone said the eight breaches "were minor and/or inadvertent", and "there was no attempt to mislead". But she has asked Sir Keir to meet the registrar of members' financial interests to discuss his obligations within Parliamentary rules - which he will do on on 25 August. In a letter to Ms Stone, the Labour leader wrote that the late declarations were the "result of an administrative error within my office" and said he took full responsibility and apologised. A Labour Party spokesperson said: "Keir Starmer takes his responsibilities to the Register very seriously and has apologised to the Commissioner for this inadvertent error.” If I'd typed your first paragraph everyone would be on it saying a classic case oh Whataboutery. No the tories will not try to get him to resign, as labour did with Boris, probably because they have more important things to be getting on with. They may be minor but they are all breaches of the MPs code of conduct and he should know better. Imagine had it been a tory MP everyone on here would be all over it like a rash, and I think deep down you know that. Typical response from labour quoting an administrative error. A little bit like their error in stating Angie wasn't at Keirs part of curry and beer....oops I mean mid work break to eat. You’re trying to compare them as the same incidents, so me then explaining they’re not is not whataboutery. Surely you get that? Otherwise no one is allowed to reply to your post.. One incident expects the PM to resign, the other doesn’t. Yet you think it does? Let’s not forget that many many Tories called for Boris to resign, so let’s not point the finger just at Labour. This reminds me of how it was labours fault for not voting Brexit through, when in fact it was the Tories going against their own party line and blocking it! Hilarious really. I agree though he should have known better and he’s cocked up. I also agree it would probably come up if it was a Tory, but also the story only came out this morning, it’s not even considered major news - we all know why. We both know why the Tories won’t push for him to resign, because the investigation calls it a minor breach and a mistake - which it was. If Starmer had been proven to take illegal secret payments to bring up conversations in parliament, do you think they’d still stay quiet and just crack on with the job? Let’s be realistic here. And in reference to your first post, yes action is being taken against him. So your double standards cry is frankly not true and it’s a classic story of Tories playing the victim |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 5, 2022 10:11:00 GMT
More false equivalence by FranceGas 🙄
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2022 10:18:13 GMT
More false equivalence by FranceGas 🙄 You still frantically looking up recessions in the UK to confirm if the tweet you posted was correct. |
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2022 10:19:00 GMT
More false equivalence by FranceGas 🙄 On other words your using Whataboutery to justify 8 breaches 🙄 |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 5, 2022 10:42:20 GMT
More false equivalence by FranceGas 🙄 You still frantically looking up recessions in the UK to confirm if the tweet you posted was correct. Nope mate , I’m sat by lake Thunersee enjoying the sun 🌞 |
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2022 10:52:21 GMT
If I'd typed your first paragraph everyone would be on it saying a classic case oh Whataboutery. No the tories will not try to get him to resign, as labour did with Boris, probably because they have more important things to be getting on with. They may be minor but they are all breaches of the MPs code of conduct and he should know better. Imagine had it been a tory MP everyone on here would be all over it like a rash, and I think deep down you know that. Typical response from labour quoting an administrative error. A little bit like their error in stating Angie wasn't at Keirs part of curry and beer....oops I mean mid work break to eat. You’re trying to compare them as the same incidents, so me then explaining they’re not is not whataboutery. Surely you get that? Otherwise no one is allowed to reply to your post.. One incident expects the PM to resign, the other doesn’t. Yet you think it does? Let’s not forget that many many Tories called for Boris to resign, so let’s not point the finger just at Labour. This reminds me of how it was labours fault for not voting Brexit through, when in fact it was the Tories going against their own party line and blocking it! Hilarious really. I agree though he should have known better and he’s cocked up. I also agree it would probably come up if it was a Tory, but also the story only came out this morning, it’s not even considered major news - we all know why. We both know why the Tories won’t push for him to resign, because the investigation calls it a minor breach and a mistake - which it was. If Starmer had been proven to take illegal secret payments to bring up conversations in parliament, do you think they’d still stay quiet and just crack on with the job? Let’s be realistic here. And in reference to your first post, yes action is being taken against him. So your double standards cry is frankly not true and it’s a classic story of Tories playing the victim Where have I stated they are the same incidents? Why is it your all allowed to say it's not Whataboutery but when I've tried to compare things previously I'm told it is. Where did I state Starmer needs to resign? And where have I pointed a finger just at Labour? Not considered major news! It's been on news channels this morning and across the media (have a look at Google). If it's not major news why is your beloved left wing rag The Guardian reporting it? Do you also mean Cash for Honours? Just asking 🙂 Action being taken against him ? like posting an apology on the parliament website .😂😂 |
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2022 10:54:27 GMT
You still frantically looking up recessions in the UK to confirm if the tweet you posted was correct. Nope mate , I’m sat by lake Thunersee enjoying the sun 🌞 In the amount of time it's taken you to do 2 posts you could have found out the tweet was a lie. |
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2022 11:00:37 GMT
You still frantically looking up recessions in the UK to confirm if the tweet you posted was correct. Nope mate , I’m sat by lake Thunersee enjoying the sun 🌞 Still baking hot here. We had 40deg in town yesterday and 37 at the house (higher altitude than the town). Everyday next week we are forecast temperatures in the 30s again. |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 5, 2022 11:01:28 GMT
Nope mate , I’m sat by lake Thunersee enjoying the sun 🌞 Still baking hot here. We had 40deg in town yesterday and 37 at the house (higher altitude than the town). Everyday next week we are forecast temperatures in the 30s again. Yep same forecast for Venice next week 😃 |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 5, 2022 11:05:41 GMT
This is factually incorrect ( thanks francegas for pointing this out) . The party have overseen 6 of the 8 or 75%. Rejoice , vote Tory , Go Liz ! 🇬🇧 |
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