This Government

Thank you Yatton for confirming the tweet is false.
Just a question (can't be bothered to look them all up) how many of those 6 were worldwide recessions?
I ask because previously when I mentioned how Brown took the country to the verge of bankruptcy and into recession I was shot down saying it was a worldwide recession so it wasn't his fault and therefore doesn't count.
There is immediately one you can knock off that list and that would be the 2020 Covid global recession.

All 6 global recessions. 🙂🙂👍👍

Isn't the tweet you posted doing just that?

Both appear to be wrong. Yes, one is worse than the other but being worse than Boris would be a tall order for anyone.

You’ve claimed it twice that it’s the same when you directly compared them trying to kick out Boris for breach of conduct and when you claimed double standards over nothing will happen to Starmer. Otherwise what else were you comparing the incident to? Genuinely keen to hear that response.

As you then brought it up, I said they’re not the same and you’ve called it whataboutery. What I was actually doing is just replying to your post. You brought it up, not me. But again unless you were talking about a different breach and we’ve all misread your post.

And yes it’s not major news, the guardian - like most papers will report all news. You surely understand that not everything posted on the guardian website is considered major news?

As for action - let’s see, he’s being called in for a meeting I think? What do you think should happen FG? Either you think they’re the same level of incident to which I’m not giving whataboutery at all, or you don’t - which of it’s the latter then you’ve made a storm in a tea cup really. Keen to hear your thoughts

Of course governments can mismanage situations but mostly these mistakes are only clear in hindsight and/or are caused by factors outside of their control.

For example, the early 1990s recession was again a global recession that had many contributing factors, including (but not limited to) the end of the Cold War (positive) so defense spending was massively reduced, the 1990 invasion of Kuwait by Iraq (nothing the UK government could do to stop that) and the savings and loan crisis in the US (nothing the UK government could do to stop that). Another key problem was the UKs membership of the ERM...


Or we could go to the early 1980s recession, which again had a number of key factors but this time more of them include the UK Labour party and how it left the economy/country when it lost the 1979 election. International factors included the Iranian Revolution which caused a disruption to the global oil supply (huge price rises coupled with limited supply) but domestic factors also played a key part - the Labour government's actions whilst they were in power (64-70 & 74-79) caused ever increasing unemployment, the Winter of Discontent and inflation at around 10% when they left office and spiraling higher...

...going to your point about the next General Election, of course the Conservatives want to win it but I don't think the party as a whole will be massively upset if they don't - most developed countries work best when power switches between the two main parties on a fairly regular basis....of course the UK had a problem as Miliband (D not E) should have been leader at either the 2015 election or the next one, and would probably have won - we'd have had 5 years of centre-left government and the Conservatives regrouping ready to take over and fix all the problems Labour caused....   

What you smoking ?

Defence spending (with a "c" unless you are quoting from Wiki 😉) and the ERM were UK government decisions. I also remember the Conservative mantra going into the 1997 GE of "Yes it hurt, yes it worked." Even they acknowledged the pain caused by trying to get the economy back on track.

Governments may well have some factors outside of their control but the depth and length of a recession is dependent on their competence in managing the economy.