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Post by oldie on Oct 17, 2022 20:53:19 GMT
Bye bye Liz Truss, absolute disaster. Should never have got the job in the first place. She only got it over Sunak because of colour of her skin. Are you inferring that Sunak was not chosen because of his skin colour? |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 17, 2022 22:13:50 GMT
Truss had a one to one with Graham Brady . That means only one thing ……. Apparently she refused to go 🙄 |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 18, 2022 4:27:05 GMT
Bye bye Liz Truss, absolute disaster. Should never have got the job in the first place. She only got it over Sunak because of colour of her skin. Are you inferring that Sunak was not chosen because of his skin colour? Yes. |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 18, 2022 10:09:04 GMT
Bye bye Liz Truss, absolute disaster. Should never have got the job in the first place. She only got it over Sunak because of colour of her skin. I doubt that, at least for most of them. The real reason is twofold, Truss has long been seen as the darling of the membership and they felt Sunak was disloyal to Boris. According to the i newspaper, Hunt and Wallace have both ruled themselves out. Hunt is defacto PM anyway isn't he and he is hardly going to come out and say he wants the job and cause potentially more instability himself. Doubt Hunt would turn it down if The Tories chose to anoint him |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 18, 2022 10:29:26 GMT
I doubt that, at least for most of them. The real reason is twofold, Truss has long been seen as the darling of the membership and they felt Sunak was disloyal to Boris. According to the i newspaper, Hunt and Wallace have both ruled themselves out. Hunt is defacto PM anyway isn't he and he is hardly going to come out and say he wants the job and cause potentially more instability himself. Doubt Hunt would turn it down if The Tories chose to anoint him It's a poisoned chalice, they need either Truss to stay or someone to step up as caretaker knowing they'll lose and allow a regrouping in Opposition. I doubt it actually was the case but part of me wonders if Sir Graham Brady said you have to stay and 'carry the can'. She looks unwell looking at her yesterday, PMQs tomorrow could well be her death knell. I almost feeling sorry for her, a 6th former clearly out of her depth and being left to drown. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 18, 2022 10:31:08 GMT
Are you inferring that Sunak was not chosen because of his skin colour? Yes. Maybe, maybe not. "Some 500 Tory members were polled by JL Partners over the weekend after Ms Truss sacked Kwasi Kwarteng as chancellor and began a screeching U-turn on her mini-budget. Out of those asked, 43% picked Mr Sunak, while 28% picked Ms Truss, with the rest either not saying who they would pick, not being able to choose, or saying they would not vote. If just those who are decided are tallied, then it comes out as 60% to 40% in favour of Mr Sunak. This is roughly inverse to the 57% to 42% result in favour of Ms Truss that actually happened. The polling also found that only 16% of those Conservative Party members asked thought Ms Truss was doing "well", while 56% thought she was doing "badly"." |
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Post by axegas on Oct 18, 2022 13:56:18 GMT
She was never particularly popular in her own party. She only pipped Mordaunt into second place in the leadership contest because there was a relentless media campaign in the Mail, Express, Telegraph ect for weeks to discredit Mordaunt and promote Truss, and some MP's then lent Truss support on fears that Mordaunt was not sufficiently different from Sunak to beat him. There was one point in the contest where it looked like Truss wouldn't even beat Suella Braverman of all people.
It sounds like the Tory membership then fell for that media lobbying without properly scrutinising her policies. Some voted for Truss out of loyalty to Boris.
I think there is some support from Tory MP's for her to stay in position now whilst Hunt attempts to clear up her mess, but very little support for her to contest the next election.
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 18, 2022 14:02:26 GMT
Dom getting his views across. Who said Brexit was done? Seems the animosity is still there.
"Dominic Cummings, the former Downing Street adviser, has suggested the Conservative Party is trying to destroy itself.
He then added his voice to those calling for an election.
Mr Cummings tweeted that the "Hunt-Osborne alliance, vandalising public services, cuts to NHS and *actual growth* like R&D, seems determined to drive the Tory Party towards 0 seats and clear the path for the startup party!
"It's like Tories now run by a network that wants to destroy them."
Mr Cummings, who worked on the Brexit campaign and Boris Johnson's 2019 election surge, added: "2019 voters did NOT vote for 2 REMAIN CAMPAIGNERS to slash the NHS, raise taxes on average families, vandalise science funding, slash police, repeat Osborne's [capital expenditure] vandalism.
"If Tory MPs want the opposite of 2019 manifesto, they need to have an election." "
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Post by yattongas on Oct 18, 2022 14:47:12 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Oct 18, 2022 14:49:39 GMT
Dom getting his views across. Who said Brexit was done? Seems the animosity is still there. "Dominic Cummings, the former Downing Street adviser, has suggested the Conservative Party is trying to destroy itself. He then added his voice to those calling for an election. Mr Cummings tweeted that the "Hunt-Osborne alliance, vandalising public services, cuts to NHS and *actual growth* like R&D, seems determined to drive the Tory Party towards 0 seats and clear the path for the startup party! "It's like Tories now run by a network that wants to destroy them." Mr Cummings, who worked on the Brexit campaign and Boris Johnson's 2019 election surge, added: "2019 voters did NOT vote for 2 REMAIN CAMPAIGNERS to slash the NHS, raise taxes on average families, vandalise science funding, slash police, repeat Osborne's [capital expenditure] vandalism. "If Tory MPs want the opposite of 2019 manifesto, they need to have an election." " No one should take any notice whatsoever that this idiot says . Proven categorically wrong about Brexit over & over . Blokes a bloody weirdo 🙄 |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 19, 2022 11:49:57 GMT
n attempt by Labour to ban fracking has been turned into a confidence vote in Liz Truss's government.
Labour wants to use a vote in Parliament on Wednesday afternoon to force the introduction of a draft law to ban the extraction of shale gas.
But the government has told Tory MPs they must vote against Labour, saying "we simply cannot allow this".
The BBC has seen a message sent to Tory MPs - telling them: "This is a confidence motion in the government."
A number of Conservative MPs oppose fracking, but they have been told they must support the government or face being expelled from the parliamentary party.
Labour has said the government has not confirmed what a defeat on this fracking vote would mean for Ms Truss's premiership.
"The consequence of making this a confidence vote is that if the government loses the motion on fracking, the prime minister will resign and the government will fall," shadow leader of the House of Commons Thangam Debbonaire said.
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Post by peterparker on Oct 19, 2022 13:16:19 GMT
So Liz, confirmed the Triple Lock at PMQ's. I hope she cleared that with the Chancellor
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 19, 2022 13:35:51 GMT
So Liz, confirmed the Triple Lock at PMQ's. I hope she cleared that with the Chancellor Only on pensions though, benefits still to be confirmed or did I miss that? |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 19, 2022 13:40:05 GMT
So Liz, confirmed the Triple Lock at PMQ's. I hope she cleared that with the Chancellor Only on pensions though, benefits still to be confirmed or did I miss that? only Pensions mentioned so far |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 19, 2022 13:42:59 GMT
Only on pensions though, benefits still to be confirmed or did I miss that? only Pensions mentioned so far Did you watch Steve Baker on The Daily Politics today? Went off on one about this being the fault of artificially low interest rates and government finances being skewed since the 1911 Budget. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 19, 2022 15:33:59 GMT
Home Secretary going. I'm off to cook some tofu for tea. 😃
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Post by yattongas on Oct 19, 2022 15:48:28 GMT
Home Secretary going. I'm off to cook some tofu for tea. 😃 The wokerati did for her ! |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 19, 2022 15:58:38 GMT
Home Secretary going. I'm off to cook some tofu for tea. 😃 Seemingly resigned for an 'honest mistake' Quite novel given recent times to resign for being out of your depth. lol |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 19, 2022 16:06:52 GMT
Home Secretary going. I'm off to cook some tofu for tea. 😃 Seemingly resigned for an 'honest mistake' Quite novel given recent times to resign for being out of your depth. lol She’s on manoeuvres 🙄 |
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Post by fintanstack on Oct 19, 2022 16:17:42 GMT
Tory MP does the right thing shocker.
Hated her politics and policies but fair play to her, she made a mistake, owned up and resigned.
She has my respect for that.
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