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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 10:09:34 GMT
The bloke who put his cross next to the madman Corbyn`s name on the ballot paper, criticizing the man who beat him. That`s good for a Tuesday morning chuckle.  Out of interest did you vote positively for Boris Johnson or vote against Corbyn's Labour? Now now Stuart We should all recognise by now that William cannot articulate an opinion, limited only to monotonously misrepresenting my opinions. Particularly exposed now that with Nobby gone there is nobody to exchange school boy humour with. |
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Post by baggins on Sept 29, 2020 11:35:58 GMT
Out of interest did you vote positively for Boris Johnson or vote against Corbyn's Labour? Now now Stuart We should all recognise by now that William cannot articulate an opinion, limited only to monotonously misrepresenting my opinions. Particularly exposed now that with Nobby gone there is nobody to exchange school boy humour with. Titty bum wee poo. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:43:23 GMT
Now now Stuart We should all recognise by now that William cannot articulate an opinion, limited only to monotonously misrepresenting my opinions. Particularly exposed now that with Nobby gone there is nobody to exchange school boy humour with. Titty bum wee poo. Precisely |
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Post by baggins on Sept 29, 2020 11:46:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:49:38 GMT
Hilarious considering we’ve got them to thank for the fact he’s our prime minister in the first place. Wake me up when they print a public apology on the front page for being responsible for this clown. The problem with Tories is they conveniently forget they voted Tory when the sh** hits the fan. “Me? Good God no, I didn’t vote this time round...” The “left” will continue to keep losing elections when they arrogantly pedal such nonsense as voters being influenced solely by a newspaper. A bit like their head in the sand view on brexit thinking only “racists” will vote leave. I wish it were nonsense. I watched a documentary on Cambridge Analytica last night and it blew my mind how easily people are influenced by media. It seems that the big elections they participated in their side inevitably won because they knew how to identify the swing voters and generate anger (and in some cases apathy) from them. So it is naive in the extreme to think that newspapers do not elect politicians. It is scary and depressing. If you want to vote the opposite way to me then that is your right but I bloody well hope it’s because you know your own mind and not because of some scandalous lies that a conniving tech or marketing company has spun to turn you into a useful idiot. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:56:36 GMT
The “left” will continue to keep losing elections when they arrogantly pedal such nonsense as voters being influenced solely by a newspaper. A bit like their head in the sand view on brexit thinking only “racists” will vote leave. I wish it were nonsense. I watched a documentary on Cambridge Analytica last night and it blew my mind how easily people are influenced by media. It seems that the big elections they participated in their side inevitably won because they knew how to identify the swing voters and generate anger (and in some cases apathy) from them. So it is naive in the extreme to think that newspapers do not elect politicians. It is scary and depressing. If you want to vote the opposite way to me then that is your right but I bloody well hope it’s because you know your own mind and not because of some scandalous lies that a conniving tech or marketing company has spun to turn you into a useful idiot. I watched C4 news on the report of how the Trump campaign identified voters, street by street, ward by ward. Then targeted the Afro American community with negative ads to discourage them from voting. Emmmm |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 12:03:49 GMT
The “left” will continue to keep losing elections when they arrogantly pedal such nonsense as voters being influenced solely by a newspaper. A bit like their head in the sand view on brexit thinking only “racists” will vote leave. I wish it were nonsense. I watched a documentary on Cambridge Analytica last night and it blew my mind how easily people are influenced by media. It seems that the big elections they participated in their side inevitably won because they knew how to identify the swing voters and generate anger (and in some cases apathy) from them. So it is naive in the extreme to think that newspapers do not elect politicians. It is scary and depressing. If you want to vote the opposite way to me then that is your right but I bloody well hope it’s because you know your own mind and not because of some scandalous lies that a conniving tech or marketing company has spun to turn you into a useful idiot. Wow that’s amazing stuff. I better make sure to avoid watching the bbc in future just in case I’m inadvertently brainwashed into voting Labour. Out of interest which newspaper did you allow to influence your choice of vote in the last election or does media influence only affect one side of the political spectrum? I made my mind up myself without reading any newspapers or nonsense on social media. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 12:13:45 GMT
I wish it were nonsense. I watched a documentary on Cambridge Analytica last night and it blew my mind how easily people are influenced by media. It seems that the big elections they participated in their side inevitably won because they knew how to identify the swing voters and generate anger (and in some cases apathy) from them. So it is naive in the extreme to think that newspapers do not elect politicians. It is scary and depressing. If you want to vote the opposite way to me then that is your right but I bloody well hope it’s because you know your own mind and not because of some scandalous lies that a conniving tech or marketing company has spun to turn you into a useful idiot. Wow that’s amazing stuff. I better make sure to avoid watching the bbc in future just in case I’m inadvertently brainwashed into voting Labour. Out of interest which newspaper did you allow to influence your choice of vote in the last election or does media influence only affect one side of the political spectrum? I made my mind up myself without reading any newspapers or nonsense on social media. Pretty good Eric Out of interest, where do you get the information from that informs your decision making? |
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Post by baggins on Sept 29, 2020 12:20:13 GMT
The “left” will continue to keep losing elections when they arrogantly pedal such nonsense as voters being influenced solely by a newspaper. A bit like their head in the sand view on brexit thinking only “racists” will vote leave. I wish it were nonsense. I watched a documentary on Cambridge Analytica last night and it blew my mind how easily people are influenced by media. It seems that the big elections they participated in their side inevitably won because they knew how to identify the swing voters and generate anger (and in some cases apathy) from them. So it is naive in the extreme to think that newspapers do not elect politicians. It is scary and depressing. If you want to vote the opposite way to me then that is your right but I bloody well hope it’s because you know your own mind and not because of some scandalous lies that a conniving tech or marketing company has spun to turn you into a useful idiot. And then you find out who actually owns the papers, the media. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 12:21:35 GMT
Wow that’s amazing stuff. I better make sure to avoid watching the bbc in future just in case I’m inadvertently brainwashed into voting Labour. Out of interest which newspaper did you allow to influence your choice of vote in the last election or does media influence only affect one side of the political spectrum? I made my mind up myself without reading any newspapers or nonsense on social media. Pretty good Eric Out of interest, where do you get the information from that informs your decision making? What does it matter? Won’t ever be up to your exacting standards. I would never vote a leftist party so my choice will always be for the one party that is right of centre, that’s on long held principles rather than media influences or ever changing manifestos which never get fulfilled by any party. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 12:59:19 GMT
Pretty good Eric Out of interest, where do you get the information from that informs your decision making? What does it matter? Won’t ever be up to your exacting standards. I would never vote a leftist party so my choice will always be for the one party that is right of centre, that’s on long held principles rather than media influences or ever changing manifestos which never get fulfilled by any party. It was a genuine question. It has to be the case doesn't it that everyone gleans their information from somewhere. We don't live in a vacuum. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:04:37 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 29, 2020 13:04:59 GMT
Easy mistake to make 🙄 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54342688The prime minister has apologised after failing to clarify the detail of new tighter coronavirus restrictions in north-east England. Boris Johnson said he "misspoke" when answering a question on the rules, when he replied by talking about the rule of six instead of households not mixing. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:19:02 GMT
I wish it were nonsense. I watched a documentary on Cambridge Analytica last night and it blew my mind how easily people are influenced by media. It seems that the big elections they participated in their side inevitably won because they knew how to identify the swing voters and generate anger (and in some cases apathy) from them. So it is naive in the extreme to think that newspapers do not elect politicians. It is scary and depressing. If you want to vote the opposite way to me then that is your right but I bloody well hope it’s because you know your own mind and not because of some scandalous lies that a conniving tech or marketing company has spun to turn you into a useful idiot. Wow that’s amazing stuff. I better make sure to avoid watching the bbc in future just in case I’m inadvertently brainwashed into voting Labour. Out of interest which newspaper did you allow to influence your choice of vote in the last election or does media influence only affect one side of the political spectrum? I made my mind up myself without reading any newspapers or nonsense on social media. I vote using nothing but my sense of empathy for those in life in who have it harder than I do. Hope that helps. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:22:13 GMT
Wow that’s amazing stuff. I better make sure to avoid watching the bbc in future just in case I’m inadvertently brainwashed into voting Labour. Out of interest which newspaper did you allow to influence your choice of vote in the last election or does media influence only affect one side of the political spectrum? I made my mind up myself without reading any newspapers or nonsense on social media. I vote using nothing but my sense of empathy for those in life in who have it harder than I do. Hope that helps. Oooh Good answer... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:25:46 GMT
Pretty good Eric Out of interest, where do you get the information from that informs your decision making? What does it matter? Won’t ever be up to your exacting standards. I would never vote a leftist party so my choice will always be for the one party that is right of centre, that’s on long held principles rather than media influences or ever changing manifestos which never get fulfilled by any party. That’s fair enough, too many have no such convictions and are easily pandered to by targeted media. I recall the northern girl on Question Time who woke up on the day of the EU referendum totally undecided, saw a sob story on Facebook about some fishermen and voted leave based on that, she admitted on question time that she had realised consequently she had made a big mistake. That’s the danger of influence and as such I doubt we will ever see another “fair” election in our lifetimes. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:34:40 GMT
I vote using nothing but my sense of empathy for those in life in who have it harder than I do. Hope that helps. Oooh Good answer... Well, that’s slightly flippant for dramatic effect. To give a more rounded answer I get my news from the BBC as I feel that their actual news story do not carry much in the way of opinion (although I do notice some inconsistencies - particularly wrt to the recent racism debate in the US) I listen carefully to what politicians actually say during election cycles and then I ask myself “who really benefits from what they are promising?”. Recently I’ve started trying to educate myself on economics through books rather than the media because it’s all very well saying “equality of opportunity for everyone!”, “end poverty!” etc but what if it’s not even feasible? What are the factors that need to be in place? It seems important to have an economic stance but also be able to have an idea how you think it could be implemented and how it could work. But, ultimately, it would take something monumental for me to vote Tory because of my core beliefs. I was tempted by the Lib Dem’s last time but Swindon’s inability to acknowledge that she would work with Corbyn in order to stop Boris getting in killed any interest I had in them. |
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Post by peterparker on Sept 29, 2020 13:37:28 GMT
I wish it were nonsense. I watched a documentary on Cambridge Analytica last night and it blew my mind how easily people are influenced by media. It seems that the big elections they participated in their side inevitably won because they knew how to identify the swing voters and generate anger (and in some cases apathy) from them. So it is naive in the extreme to think that newspapers do not elect politicians. It is scary and depressing. If you want to vote the opposite way to me then that is your right but I bloody well hope it’s because you know your own mind and not because of some scandalous lies that a conniving tech or marketing company has spun to turn you into a useful idiot. Wow that’s amazing stuff. I better make sure to avoid watching the bbc in future just in case I’m inadvertently brainwashed into voting Labour. Out of interest which newspaper did you allow to influence your choice of vote in the last election or does media influence only affect one side of the political spectrum? I made my mind up myself without reading any newspapers or nonsense on social media. you may not be influenced, but I am sure plenty are. you only need to take a trip to Facebook and see the amount of bollocks that is shared about anything and everything from 5G to No Poppies being sold as not to upset Muslims. Some People are easily influenced and more importantly targeted |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:49:45 GMT
Well, that’s slightly flippant for dramatic effect. To give a more rounded answer I get my news from the BBC as I feel that their actual news story do not carry much in the way of opinion (although I do notice some inconsistencies - particularly wrt to the recent racism debate in the US) I listen carefully to what politicians actually say during election cycles and then I ask myself “who really benefits from what they are promising?”. Recently I’ve started trying to educate myself on economics through books rather than the media because it’s all very well saying “equality of opportunity for everyone!”, “end poverty!” etc but what if it’s not even feasible? What are the factors that need to be in place? It seems important to have an economic stance but also be able to have an idea how you think it could be implemented and how it could work. But, ultimately, it would take something monumental for me to vote Tory because of my core beliefs. I was tempted by the Lib Dem’s last time but Swindon’s inability to acknowledge that she would work with Corbyn in order to stop Boris getting in killed any interest I had in them. Personally I would never vote for Swindon, it's a crap town (😱😂😜) I was tempted by the Lib Dems but you are right Jo Swinson made a pig's ear of her campaign and leadership. |
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Post by francegas on Sept 29, 2020 14:35:19 GMT
Hilarious considering we’ve got them to thank for the fact he’s our prime minister in the first place. Wake me up when they print a public apology on the front page for being responsible for this clown. The problem with Tories is they conveniently forget they voted Tory when the sh** hits the fan. “Me? Good God no, I didn’t vote this time round...” The “left” will continue to keep losing elections when they arrogantly pedal such nonsense as voters being influenced solely by a newspaper. A bit like their head in the sand view on brexit thinking only “racists” will vote leave. And long may they continue losing elections. |
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