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Post by francegas on Sept 29, 2020 14:50:16 GMT
Hilarious considering we’ve got them to thank for the fact he’s our prime minister in the first place. Wake me up when they print a public apology on the front page for being responsible for this clown. The problem with Tories is they conveniently forget they voted Tory when the sh** hits the fan. “Me? Good God no, I didn’t vote this time round...” Ah I get it, so the Tories only got voted in due to the influence of the Sun newspaper whilst Labour previously got voted in due to the moral principles and family loyalties of the electorate. Yeah right !
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 29, 2020 14:59:56 GMT
Wow that’s amazing stuff. I better make sure to avoid watching the bbc in future just in case I’m inadvertently brainwashed into voting Labour. Out of interest which newspaper did you allow to influence your choice of vote in the last election or does media influence only affect one side of the political spectrum? I made my mind up myself without reading any newspapers or nonsense on social media. you may not be influenced, but I am sure plenty are. you only need to take a trip to Facebook and see the amount of bollocks that is shared about anything and everything from 5G to No Poppies being sold as not to upset Muslims. Some People are easily influenced and more importantly targeted Very true, but not just the Internet. Quiz time, which of the following is true? King Canute tried to turn back the tide. Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake" Christopher Columbas proved the earth wasn't flat. Napoleon was short. Hitler won a majority in the 1933 election. Greenland was so called to encourage migration. The EU tried to ban overly bent bananas. No using the Internet. 😇
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 17:03:59 GMT
you may not be influenced, but I am sure plenty are. you only need to take a trip to Facebook and see the amount of bollocks that is shared about anything and everything from 5G to No Poppies being sold as not to upset Muslims. Some People are easily influenced and more importantly targeted Very true, but not just the Internet. Quiz time, which of the following is true? King Canute tried to turn back the tide. Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake" Christopher Columbas proved the earth wasn't flat. Napoleon was short. Hitler won a majority in the 1933 election. Greenland was so called to encourage migration. The EU tried to ban overly bent bananas. No using the Internet. 😇 Please Let Tory Supporters / Leave Voters / Trump Fantasists answer please
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 17:37:44 GMT
Hilarious considering we’ve got them to thank for the fact he’s our prime minister in the first place. Wake me up when they print a public apology on the front page for being responsible for this clown. The problem with Tories is they conveniently forget they voted Tory when the sh** hits the fan. “Me? Good God no, I didn’t vote this time round...” Ah I get it, so the Tories only got voted in due to the influence of the Sun newspaper whilst Labour previously got voted in due to the moral principles and family loyalties of the electorate. Yeah right ! I’m sure every government there has ever been has been influenced by a paper. The Sun backed Tony Blair didn’t it? Thatcher took credit for Blair so I’m sure that I’m not mistaken that for once the Sun backed Tory-lite sorry I meant (New) Labour. This isn’t a my-politics-is-better-than-yours complaint, it’s a complaint that the media has far too much influence on people’s minds and people aren’t given the space to make their own minds up in peace and that has gone into overdrive with social media and the aggressive posturing of the Facebook ads. One thing I will say is that the pursuit of Corbyn was vile by the right wing media, brutally personal and people lapped it up. It was a Cummings-led dirty tricks offensive and the sad thing is it worked. An election campaign is no place for gentlemen and I for one find that sad. An election should be the last bastion of morality, a competition of ideas with the best speaking for themselves but increasingly it’s about money, smear campaigns and psychographics to poison the minds of the hard of thinking. Once the dust has settled after an election cycle we should all be able to shake hands, wish the victor luck, respect the outcome and want the best for the country. The last one in particular however was appallingly conducted and only served to widen division afterwards. On the one hand I feel Labour need to fight dirty in return in coming elections but on the other I would hate to see more parties stoop to those sort of tactics because British politics will completely disappear down the plug hole of morality, if it hasn’t already.
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 30, 2020 10:47:46 GMT
you may not be influenced, but I am sure plenty are. you only need to take a trip to Facebook and see the amount of bollocks that is shared about anything and everything from 5G to No Poppies being sold as not to upset Muslims. Some People are easily influenced and more importantly targeted Very true, but not just the Internet. Quiz time, which of the following is true? King Canute tried to turn back the tide. Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake" Christopher Columbas proved the earth wasn't flat. Napoleon was short. Hitler won a majority in the 1933 election. Greenland was so called to encourage migration. The EU tried to ban overly bent bananas. No using the Internet. 😇 No takers? I am disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 11:28:01 GMT
Very true, but not just the Internet. Quiz time, which of the following is true? King Canute tried to turn back the tide. Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake" Christopher Columbas proved the earth wasn't flat. Napoleon was short. Hitler won a majority in the 1933 election. Greenland was so called to encourage migration. The EU tried to ban overly bent bananas. No using the Internet. 😇 No takers? I am disappointed. 😱😱😂😂😂
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Post by francegas on Oct 5, 2020 16:43:44 GMT
Can't see it anywhere stating it was Boris refusing to hand over the gold to Venezuela. In fact all I can see is it was the Bank of England who were refusing to hand it back. HM Treasury only has control over UK Government gold reserves held at the Bank of England (Not that we have much left after Brown got his hands on it and sold the majority of it off when the price of gold was at an all time low) The UK Government has previously said over this matter it is for the Bank of England and not the government to settle such issues. So let's not blame Boris for everything .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 16:59:35 GMT
Can't see it anywhere stating it was Boris refusing to hand over the gold to Venezuela. In fact all I can see is it was the Bank of England who were refusing to hand it back. HM Treasury only has control over UK Government gold reserves held at the Bank of England (Not that we have much left after Brown got his hands on it and sold the majority of it off when the price of gold was at an all time low) The UK Government has previously said over this matter it is for the Bank of England and not the government to settle such issues. So let's not blame Boris for everything . Probably true but this has been an issue for a while and you feel the long shadow of American interference here, they have been trying, or actually are, to interfere with Venezuela for years, as per norm in South America. But closer to home...the lack of investment in our public services raises it's head (again) when we find out that PHE use Excel as their software for Track and Trace. If it wasn't so serious this would be laughable
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 5, 2020 17:08:56 GMT
Can't see it anywhere stating it was Boris refusing to hand over the gold to Venezuela. In fact all I can see is it was the Bank of England who were refusing to hand it back. HM Treasury only has control over UK Government gold reserves held at the Bank of England (Not that we have much left after Brown got his hands on it and sold the majority of it off when the price of gold was at an all time low) The UK Government has previously said over this matter it is for the Bank of England and not the government to settle such issues. So let's not blame Boris for everything . Probably true but this has been an issue for a while and you feel the long shadow of American interference here, they have been trying, or actually are, to interfere with Venezuela for years, as per norm in South America. But closer to home...the lack of investment in our public services raises it's head (again) when we find out that PHE use Excel as their software for Track and Trace. If it wasn't so serious this would be laughable Tbh Les it's not lack of available investment,it's the inability of Public Services to accept and manage change,if they had their way they would still be using paper and pen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 17:19:57 GMT
Probably true but this has been an issue for a while and you feel the long shadow of American interference here, they have been trying, or actually are, to interfere with Venezuela for years, as per norm in South America. But closer to home...the lack of investment in our public services raises it's head (again) when we find out that PHE use Excel as their software for Track and Trace. If it wasn't so serious this would be laughable Tbh Les it's not lack of available investment,it's the inability of Public Services to accept and manage change,if they had their way they would still be using paper and pen. That may well be the case Clive. But place yourself as the public face of all this, that is Hancock & Johnson. They have made statements like "World Beating Test Track & Trace" etc. Surely, someone, somewhere, in a position of responsibility would have asked the question "show me how this works", at which point the question of hardware and software would have arisen. They have been working on this for months, nobody picked this up? It was the same with stored in PPE in March, this lot had sat on it and let it go out of date, instead of rotating stock. Millions of £s watered up against the wall. They are ultimately responsible for all this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 18:00:08 GMT
Can't see it anywhere stating it was Boris refusing to hand over the gold to Venezuela. In fact all I can see is it was the Bank of England who were refusing to hand it back. HM Treasury only has control over UK Government gold reserves held at the Bank of England (Not that we have much left after Brown got his hands on it and sold the majority of it off when the price of gold was at an all time low) The UK Government has previously said over this matter it is for the Bank of England and not the government to settle such issues. So let's not blame Boris for everything . Johnson/the state
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Post by francegas on Oct 5, 2020 18:10:37 GMT
Can't see it anywhere stating it was Boris refusing to hand over the gold to Venezuela. In fact all I can see is it was the Bank of England who were refusing to hand it back. HM Treasury only has control over UK Government gold reserves held at the Bank of England (Not that we have much left after Brown got his hands on it and sold the majority of it off when the price of gold was at an all time low) The UK Government has previously said over this matter it is for the Bank of England and not the government to settle such issues. So let's not blame Boris for everything . Johnson/the state Johnson/the state as you say is not the Bank of England
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 18:28:42 GMT
Johnson/the state as you say is not the Bank of England Didn't say it was did i?
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Post by francegas on Oct 5, 2020 18:36:25 GMT
Johnson/the state as you say is not the Bank of England Didn't say it was did i? So then your response to my post was totally pointless then.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 20:23:52 GMT
So then your response to my post was totally pointless then. State>bank
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Post by lordlucan on Oct 5, 2020 22:47:35 GMT
Remember when people thought Jeremy Corbyn was dangerous for the country? I miss those days.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 6, 2020 10:29:12 GMT
Remember when people thought Jeremy Corbyn was dangerous for the country? I miss those days. Welcome back Nobbygas.
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Post by gasstrictband on Oct 6, 2020 11:27:45 GMT
Welcome back NobbCheese .
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Post by lordlucan on Oct 6, 2020 13:52:10 GMT
Remember when people thought Jeremy Corbyn was dangerous for the country? I miss those days. Welcome back Nobbygas. Thank you, I am touched. I don't know who that is, but thanks anyway. Incidentally, I don't vote. But I do laugh when i think of all the people who said imagine how bad the country would be if he was to win the election. Yeah, because there is a bit of an idiot running it now.... and that's not going very well.
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