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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 6, 2020 16:00:12 GMT
Thank you, I am touched. I don't know who that is, but thanks anyway. Incidentally, I don't vote. But I do laugh when i think of all the people who said imagine how bad the country would be if he was to win the election. Yeah, because there is a bit of an idiot running it now.... and that's not going very well. I want some of that chaos with Ed Milliband. Suddenly doesn't seem so bad and also it apparently comes with extra bacon. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 20:15:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 20:19:19 GMT
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Post by lordlucan on Oct 6, 2020 20:56:07 GMT
There is very much a better way: Let's remind the politicians that they are employees of us. I don't know when they were allowed to become our masters, but as we pay their wages, we should hold the power.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 21:13:04 GMT
Any positive news from Venezuela on a better way forward? They are recovering from a failed coup remember, no doubt you only read The Sun & Daily Racist so have very limited capacity as it is. |
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Post by blueridge on Oct 7, 2020 9:35:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 10:39:07 GMT
Labour have swung to the centre to pick up blue libs, they'll have their big donors back so won't miss the money. |
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Post by blueridge on Oct 7, 2020 11:02:15 GMT
Labour have swung to the centre to pick up blue libs, they'll have their big donors back so won't miss the money. Think this is a warning shot - not sure they won’t miss the money. |
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Post by Gassy on Oct 7, 2020 18:42:30 GMT
Labour have swung to the centre to pick up blue libs, they'll have their big donors back so won't miss the money. Yeah it's probably a good thing tbh, shows the new direction of the party. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 20:49:59 GMT
Labour have swung to the centre to pick up blue libs, they'll have their big donors back so won't miss the money. Yeah it's probably a good thing tbh, shows the new direction of the party. As long as they don’t turn into New Labour again. I’m currently listening to “The Establishment” by Owen Jones and as much as I can’t stand his media persona he does a great job of putting Blair and his cronies in context for their behaviour during the new labour era. What a bunch of self-interested chancers. Totally Tory-lite apart from their public spending but even then that was in partnership with the private sector. I like Starmer and I hope he doesn’t try to follow in Blair’s footsteps or become too much like the Lib Dem’s. They have to move to the centre and yet still retain some essence of the party’s core values which is what New Labour never seemed to do. |
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Post by lordlucan on Oct 7, 2020 22:30:54 GMT
I am firmly in the Official Monster Raving Loony Party camp. They are the sanest party of them all...
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 7, 2020 23:45:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 5:56:17 GMT
Yeah it's probably a good thing tbh, shows the new direction of the party. As long as they don’t turn into New Labour again. I’m currently listening to “The Establishment” by Owen Jones and as much as I can’t stand his media persona he does a great job of putting Blair and his cronies in context for their behaviour during the new labour era. What a bunch of self-interested chancers. Totally Tory-lite apart from their public spending but even then that was in partnership with the private sector. I like Starmer and I hope he doesn’t try to follow in Blair’s footsteps or become too much like the Lib Dem’s. They have to move to the centre and yet still retain some essence of the party’s core values which is what New Labour never seemed to do. Really? What are Labours "core values"? Perhaps the values and policies that voters rejected between 1979 and 1997? Or, what was actually achieved from 1997 "In domestic government policy, Blair significantly increased public spending on healthcare and education while also introducing controversial market-based reforms in these areas. In addition, Blair's tenure saw the introduction of a minimum wage, tuition fees for higher education, constitutional reform such as devolution in Scotland and Wales and progress in the Northern Ireland peace process. The UK economy performed well and the real incomes of Britons grew 18% during 1997–2006. Blair kept to Conservative commitments not to increase income tax in the first term although rates of employee's National Insurance (a payroll levy) were increased. He also presided over a significant expansion of the welfare state during his time in office, which led to a significant reduction in relative poverty." |
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Post by lordlucan on Oct 8, 2020 9:07:48 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 8, 2020 11:32:56 GMT
Not sure where this sits, sort of post Brexit but decided here would be best.
I don't think the Kremlin will be too worried but not wholly pleased either.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 14:57:07 GMT
As long as they don’t turn into New Labour again. I’m currently listening to “The Establishment” by Owen Jones and as much as I can’t stand his media persona he does a great job of putting Blair and his cronies in context for their behaviour during the new labour era. What a bunch of self-interested chancers. Totally Tory-lite apart from their public spending but even then that was in partnership with the private sector. I like Starmer and I hope he doesn’t try to follow in Blair’s footsteps or become too much like the Lib Dem’s. They have to move to the centre and yet still retain some essence of the party’s core values which is what New Labour never seemed to do. Really? What are Labours "core values"? Perhaps the values and policies that voters rejected between 1979 and 1997? Or, what was actually achieved from 1997 "In domestic government policy, Blair significantly increased public spending on healthcare and education while also introducing controversial market-based reforms in these areas. In addition, Blair's tenure saw the introduction of a minimum wage, tuition fees for higher education, constitutional reform such as devolution in Scotland and Wales and progress in the Northern Ireland peace process. The UK economy performed well and the real incomes of Britons grew 18% during 1997–2006. Blair kept to Conservative commitments not to increase income tax in the first term although rates of employee's National Insurance (a payroll levy) were increased. He also presided over a significant expansion of the welfare state during his time in office, which led to a significant reduction in relative poverty." And yet social mobility got worse and absolute poverty increased. When Thatcher tries to take the credit for a Labour prime minister like he was her bastard offspring then that suggests we need to be careful when thinking of Blair as a man of the people www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/social+mobility+decreased+under+labour/508577.html |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 14:59:51 GMT
Not sure where this sits, sort of post Brexit but decided here would be best. I don't think the Kremlin will be too worried but not wholly pleased either. Given how Putin quickly put the lid on Ukraine joining the EU one can only conclude that if he was in any way concerned about a trade deal with the U.K. it wouldn’t have happened. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 15:07:03 GMT
Really? What are Labours "core values"? Perhaps the values and policies that voters rejected between 1979 and 1997? Or, what was actually achieved from 1997 "In domestic government policy, Blair significantly increased public spending on healthcare and education while also introducing controversial market-based reforms in these areas. In addition, Blair's tenure saw the introduction of a minimum wage, tuition fees for higher education, constitutional reform such as devolution in Scotland and Wales and progress in the Northern Ireland peace process. The UK economy performed well and the real incomes of Britons grew 18% during 1997–2006. Blair kept to Conservative commitments not to increase income tax in the first term although rates of employee's National Insurance (a payroll levy) were increased. He also presided over a significant expansion of the welfare state during his time in office, which led to a significant reduction in relative poverty." And yet social mobility got worse and absolute poverty increased. When Thatcher tries to take the credit for a Labour prime minister like he was her bastard offspring then that suggests we need to be careful when thinking of Blair as a man of the people www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/social+mobility+decreased+under+labour/508577.htmlSelective text there 365 "Hundreds of thousands of children, and pensioners have been taken out of poverty but as he leaves office, the record has gone into reverse. Absolute poverty actually increased this year That final year. One out of ten years. In terms of social mobility, how quickly do you think education reforms, minimum wage increases for eg take to feed through to actual outcomes? If there was a failure during this period it was on housing. They did not build enough social housing, a key factor for lower income groups when moving areas of high unemployment to areas of employment opportunity. But you didn't mention that. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 8, 2020 15:38:40 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 8, 2020 15:46:21 GMT
Ah another import from the US that we don't need,just let the Polticians front up. |
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