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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 15:51:26 GMT
Selective text there 365 "Hundreds of thousands of children, and pensioners have been taken out of poverty but as he leaves office, the record has gone into reverse. Absolute poverty actually increased this year That final year. One out of ten years. In terms of social mobility, how quickly do you think education reforms, minimum wage increases for eg take to feed through to actual outcomes? If there was a failure during this period it was on housing. They did not build enough social housing, a key factor for lower income groups when moving areas of high unemployment to areas of employment opportunity. But you didn't mention that. There’s a bigger picture though- how has Blair’s economic attitudes contributed to the Britain we see today post 2007 credit crunch? Would we have had to bail out our banks if Blair had taken a grip on what financial instruments these banks were investing in? Blair went completely the other way, light touch regulation, hot money flowing into the coffers with no questions asked, 600 government buildings sold off to a shell company based on a tax haven and then that PRS scheme or whatever it was called dreamed up to allow the private sector to build new public sector buildings and charge eye watering amounts to the tax payer to use them. That’s at a very high level but it all, eventually, trickles down and the poor end up paying most for it through stagnant wages and increased housing and general living costs while Blair and his mates move on to cushy “consulting” gigs for the companies who did well out of well Blair’s time in office. New Labour stood for crony capitalism as much as the Tories do. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 16:05:04 GMT
Selective text there 365 "Hundreds of thousands of children, and pensioners have been taken out of poverty but as he leaves office, the record has gone into reverse. Absolute poverty actually increased this year That final year. One out of ten years. In terms of social mobility, how quickly do you think education reforms, minimum wage increases for eg take to feed through to actual outcomes? If there was a failure during this period it was on housing. They did not build enough social housing, a key factor for lower income groups when moving areas of high unemployment to areas of employment opportunity. But you didn't mention that. There’s a bigger picture though- how has Blair’s economic attitudes contributed to the Britain we see today post 2007 credit crunch? Would we have had to bail out our banks if Blair had taken a grip on what financial instruments these banks were investing in? Blair went completely the other way, light touch regulation, hot money flowing into the coffers with no questions asked, 600 government buildings sold off to a shell company based on a tax haven and then that PRS scheme or whatever it was called dreamed up to allow the private sector to build new public sector buildings and charge eye watering amounts to the tax payer to use them. That’s at a very high level but it all, eventually, trickles down and the poor end up paying most for it through stagnant wages and increased housing and general living costs while Blair and his mates move on to cushy “consulting” gigs for the companies who did well out of well Blair’s time in office. New Labour stood for crony capitalism as much as the Tories do. You are moving the goalposts Whilst I might agree that they should have tightened financial market regulation in London, you have to remember the politics at the time. Greenspan in the States was hailing the new paradigm of low inflation, cheap credit and growing demand in the economy, over here the Tories were rejuvenated and screaming "nanny state" at any attempt at regulation. But that may have been ok but for the outright fraud in the American mortgage market, mortgage products that so many of financial instruments were wrapped around and traded between banks. No amount of legislation here could have stopped that in reality. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 8, 2020 16:06:25 GMT
Ah another import from the US that we don't need,just let the Polticians front up. Quite agree, alleged £100k salary too. Where is the scrutiny? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 16:28:50 GMT
Ah another import from the US that we don't need,just let the Polticians front up. Quite agree, alleged £100k salary too. Where is the scrutiny? Just a cover for Johnson who makes a fool of himself whenever he is asked an unscripted question. And we have to pay for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 9:24:56 GMT
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Post by Gassy on Oct 10, 2020 18:36:18 GMT
Ah another import from the US that we don't need,just let the Polticians front up. Quite agree, alleged £100k salary too. Where is the scrutiny? Just read that MPs will be getting a salary increase of £3,300 next year. Nurses though? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 11:18:56 GMT
See Robert Jenrick has had £21million put into his constituency, Newark, under the levelling up scheme for areas suffering a lack of investments.
The only problem is Newark does meet the criteria.
Also areas with high infection rates, like Richmond in Yorkshire, are not being locked down.
Could it be their MP is a Tory? Could it?
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Post by baggins on Oct 11, 2020 11:32:44 GMT
Quite agree, alleged £100k salary too. Where is the scrutiny? Just read that MPs will be getting a salary increase of £3,300 next year. Nurses though? No chance. Used, abused and taken advantage of. As always. |
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Post by Gassy on Oct 12, 2020 20:48:51 GMT
Just read that MPs will be getting a salary increase of £3,300 next year. Nurses though? No chance. Used, abused and taken advantage of. As always. Its a shame that your post is viewed with a 'LOL'. I guess everyone around them rise and now MPs getting a pay rise too, whilst they're told "now isn't the time to discuss this" is hilarious? |
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Post by baggins on Oct 15, 2020 6:16:44 GMT
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Post by Gassy on Oct 18, 2020 20:22:13 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 18, 2020 20:32:03 GMT
Unless legislation is changed, I believe the next election is scheduled for May 2024. At the moment I can't see Boris Johnson leading the Conservative Party by then. Not sure when, but he'll either step down or be pushed out. Long Covid was another suggested reason and spending time with his new baby. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 18, 2020 20:33:06 GMT
Unless legislation is changed, I believe the next election is scheduled for May 2024. At the moment I can't see Boris Johnson leading the Conservative Party by then. Not sure when, but he'll either step down or be pushed out. Long Covid was another suggested reason and spending time with his new baby. One thing is certain. If he does step down and says its because of the salary, it isn't because of the salary. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 10:21:48 GMT
Some utterly depressing reading. I couldn’t even finish it. The bits that stood out for me were the 200 consultants being paid £7000 to work on an operation that had been cancelled and Jenrick offering his constituents something like 10x the tier 3 funding per head than the people of Manchester were offered. threadreaderapp.com/thread/1318525199940308992.html |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 11:48:50 GMT
Some utterly depressing reading. I couldn’t even finish it. The bits that stood out for me were the 200 consultants being paid £7000 to work on an operation that had been cancelled and Jenrick offering his constituents something like 10x the tier 3 funding per head than the people of Manchester were offered. threadreaderapp.com/thread/1318525199940308992.htmlA lot of sub-human scum in this country who hate poor people. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 22, 2020 17:51:12 GMT
Even Frosty is getting in on the act.
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Post by francegas on Oct 22, 2020 18:55:51 GMT
Really struggling to find a graph showing child poverty was zero in the UK in 2010 when the Tories came to power. So to come out with a statement that the cause of poverty in the UK is down to 10 years of austerity is somewhat unfounded.
Can I ask during the last world recession in 2009 when unemployment rates were higher than today were school children given free meals during the summer holidays and half term breaks ? Was there the same outcry in 2009. How did a higher number of unemployed people manage to feed themselves and their children then than today?
In respect of the government giving a contract to a company who has given some £400k in donations I assume you mean Globus Limited a firm that specialises in production of ventilators and PPE. Yea probably sounds dodgy but find me a squeaky clean government when it comes to donations. Cash for honours, the Ecclestone donation scandal, Labour receiving tens of millions of pounds of loans from wealthy donors and not declaring them to the Electoral Commission are others that springs to mind.
I've been fortunate enough to travel to many worldwide destinations. If you want to see real poverty and child poverty go to Nepal. Then compare what people have there compared to the UK and tell me there's real poverty in the UK.
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Post by peterparker on Oct 22, 2020 19:30:27 GMT
Really struggling to find a graph showing child poverty was zero in the UK in 2010 when the Tories came to power. So to come out with a statement that the cause of poverty in the UK is down to 10 years of austerity is somewhat unfounded. Can I ask during the last world recession in 2009 when unemployment rates were higher than today were school children given free meals during the summer holidays and half term breaks ? Was there the same outcry in 2009. How did a higher number of unemployed people manage to feed themselves and their children then than today? In respect of the government giving a contract to a company who has given some £400k in donations I assume you mean Globus Limited a firm that specialises in production of ventilators and PPE. Yea probably sounds dodgy but find me a squeaky clean government when it comes to donations. Cash for honours, the Ecclestone donation scandal, Labour receiving tens of millions of pounds of loans from wealthy donors and not declaring them to the Electoral Commission are others that springs to mind. I've been fortunate enough to travel to many worldwide destinations. If you want to see real poverty and child poverty go to Nepal. Then compare what people have there compared to the UK and tell me there's real poverty in the UK. Surely poverty is relative given we are supposed to be a development company As for the other thing |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 19:38:25 GMT
Really struggling to find a graph showing child poverty was zero in the UK in 2010 when the Tories came to power. So to come out with a statement that the cause of poverty in the UK is down to 10 years of austerity is somewhat unfounded. Can I ask during the last world recession in 2009 when unemployment rates were higher than today were school children given free meals during the summer holidays and half term breaks ? Was there the same outcry in 2009. How did a higher number of unemployed people manage to feed themselves and their children then than today? In respect of the government giving a contract to a company who has given some £400k in donations I assume you mean Globus Limited a firm that specialises in production of ventilators and PPE. Yea probably sounds dodgy but find me a squeaky clean government when it comes to donations. Cash for honours, the Ecclestone donation scandal, Labour receiving tens of millions of pounds of loans from wealthy donors and not declaring them to the Electoral Commission are others that springs to mind. I've been fortunate enough to travel to many worldwide destinations. If you want to see real poverty and child poverty go to Nepal. Then compare what people have there compared to the UK and tell me there's real poverty in the UK. well there you go ladies and gents, one of our resident Tories has turned up and actually tried to defend spunking millions on contracts for mates vs clawing it back from hungry kids. Just in case you missed it, what are your thoughts on this? threadreaderapp.com/thread/1318525199940308992.html |
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Post by blueridge on Oct 22, 2020 19:39:13 GMT
Even Frosty is getting in on the act. Nice one Sam Frost - the cause - 10 years of Tory austerity? - remind me what year was Marcus Rashford born - 1998 possibly? |
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