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Post by graceyboy on Jun 22, 2020 22:11:03 GMT
''we always go out on pens in the first round at home to a crap Championship side'' B*gger. Why didn't you say this before?! I wasted time and money going to Chelsea and Wolves recently. I feel such a fool now. Typical Spiess1 M.O. Don't come out with any opinions of your own but just sneer at other people's.. Yawn
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 22, 2020 22:17:19 GMT
So what are the likes of Everton & Newcastle etc going to do all season in the future just play league games, as neither will be playing in Europe/probably won't last long in the FA Cup? Next thing is they'll be whining the younger players never get chance to play any competitive games!! Although if attendances are reduced to 25% next season I doubt many football fans will have interest in any cup games anyway. When was the last time Everton or Newcastle won a trophy?? Newcastle haven't won a thing in living memory.. All Everton and Newcastle have been doing in the past 20 years is play league football. As long as they stay in the PL, that's as far as clubs like that can hope to achieve and actually are happy with as they don't have the financial clout to match the 6 mega rich clubs. Every season is ground hog day for those two clubs.
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Post by Baxtinho on Jun 23, 2020 9:49:58 GMT
When was the last time Everton or Newcastle won a trophy?? Newcastle haven't won a thing in living memory.. All Everton and Newcastle have been doing in the past 20 years is play league football. As long as they stay in the PL, that's as far as clubs like that can hope to achieve and actually are happy with as they don't have the financial clout to match the 6 mega rich clubs. Every season is ground hog day for those two clubs. Since 00/01, the last twenty seasons Everton have been on six Europa League/UEFA Cup campaigns, getting as far as the Last 16 in 07/08.
In 04/05, with a certain Nigel Martyn in goal, Everton finished 4th and played a Champions League qualifier where (if you believe the conspiracies) supposed "world's best referee" Pierluigi Collina controversially disallowed a late equaliser which sent Villareal through. Collina was then banned from refereeing in Italy for accepting money from one of the clubs' sponsors, and immediately retired.
Theorists believe this was because UEFA didn't want five English teams in the CL (Liverpool somehow fluked the thing, something in Istanbul...I dunno). UEFA then went on to hire Collina as their Chief of Referees.
In terms of domestic cups, Everton have contested 3 FA Cup Semi-Finals, 1 Final, and 2 League Cup Semi-Finals in this period.
League wise, Everton stayed up on the final day of the season in 03/04, then finished fourth the following season.
I realise this is already a long post, so I haven't got time to mention the horrors of Sam Allardyce & Wayne Rooney in his second spell.
It's a lot like being a Gashead, being supposedly in the shadow of shameless neighbours in red, maybe that's what drew me this way when I moved here. There's not a lot of glory, but it's never dull. UTG, NSNO
Here's Big Dunc scoring the only goal against Man Utd on the way to fourth place
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Post by supergas on Jun 23, 2020 11:19:53 GMT
All Everton and Newcastle have been doing in the past 20 years is play league football. As long as they stay in the PL, that's as far as clubs like that can hope to achieve and actually are happy with as they don't have the financial clout to match the 6 mega rich clubs. Every season is ground hog day for those two clubs. Accurate for those two clubs. But who won the Premier League in 2016? Arguably a club most would have generally pitched as lower than Everton and Newcastle in the overall hierarchy...that's why we all love football, whether it's a single moment in a game, a single game, a cup run or a whole season, the most cash does not always lead to success....
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 23, 2020 12:14:31 GMT
It's only the club's in the Euro cups who want to avoid the cup next season, as it's impossible to play in every competition in a shortened season, I can't see there's any suggestions all the Premiership clubs aren't prepared to play?
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