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Post by gas2 on Jun 22, 2020 11:23:21 GMT
I hear he premier league want to scrap the league cup from next season so what would the p l pay the e f l t o scrap it I say they give all the league clubs£1 million each for the pleasure of scraping the cup I am sure the premier league could afford that ?
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Post by spiess1 on Jun 22, 2020 11:31:23 GMT
EPL clubs could remain in it and enter their U'21s.
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Post by gas2 on Jun 22, 2020 11:34:33 GMT
What like that stupid cup for league one and two clubs ?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 22, 2020 11:42:04 GMT
I've long thought the FL Trophy should be scrapped and the League Cup retained just for the 72 EFL clubs.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 22, 2020 11:48:51 GMT
I've long thought the FL Trophy should be scrapped and the League Cup retained just for the 72 EFL clubs. It would actually make sense, seeing as the prem isn't the Football League.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Jun 22, 2020 11:57:21 GMT
What like that stupid cup for league one and two clubs ? It could be kept in it's existing form with National League clubs entering instead of the Prem. Some of them could really do with the money at present. The other side of the coin is that it alienates the Prem from the rest of football even more. Sooner or later Football League clubs will never play Premier League sides competitively again. Manchester would be about as revelant to English football as Mumbai is.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 22, 2020 12:11:18 GMT
So what are the likes of Everton & Newcastle etc going to do all season in the future just play league games, as neither will be playing in Europe/probably won't last long in the FA Cup? Next thing is they'll be whining the younger players never get chance to play any competitive games!!
Although if attendances are reduced to 25% next season I doubt many football fans will have interest in any cup games anyway.
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 22, 2020 12:55:46 GMT
For a long time I've thought the league Cup was a waste of time. Only staged since the 60s so no real history behind it.. I've never seen the sense in two national Cup competitions.. Most national leagues only have 1. The trophy looks stupid with 3 handles. The only benefit for a club like ours was drawing a top team early on (2nd round was over 2 legs initially) increasing our revenue. The two leg thing has now gone except for the semi finals. Totally pointless competition now along with the mickey mouse cup. Never understood uefa cup either, a competition for losers that finished, 5th, 6th or 7th in PL, what's all that about?? Scrapping all national Cup comps except for fa cup brings back magic of fa cup, making cup final day more important like it used to be, rather than the saturated world we live in now with league Cup final, fa cup final, mickey mouse Cup final, play off finals and fa trophy and vase finals all played at Wembley. I'm all in favour of scrapping this meaningless comp.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 22, 2020 12:57:28 GMT
I've long thought the FL Trophy should be scrapped and the League Cup retained just for the 72 EFL clubs. me too. do that and scrap the Checkatrade or whatever the f**k it's called now
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Post by gregsy on Jun 22, 2020 12:58:21 GMT
This is what annoys me about the premier league....
In any other sport the whole point of any competition is to win it.... You know, to win things....
Yet now finishing fourth in the league is more important than winning the oldest and most famous domestic trophy on earth....
This was inevitable for the league cup but it sucks....
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 22, 2020 13:07:16 GMT
This is what annoys me about the premier league.... In any other sport the whole point of any competition is to win it.... You know, to win things.... Yet now finishing fourth in the league is more important than winning the oldest and most famous domestic trophy on earth.... This was inevitable for the league cup but it sucks.... You make a valid point about finishing 4th in the PL.. I remember seeing scenes about 5 years ago of arsene wenger and arsenal players celebrating on the pitch on the last game of the season like they'd won the world cup.. Because they'd finished FOURTH!!!! Humiliating stuff that confirmed to me, if confirmation were needed, that champions league money is far more important to PL clubs than winning a cup at Wembley.. Its the same with championship clubs who get promoted to the PL, when they celebrate, you get the impression that they are celebrating the windfall of PL cash and the subsequent parachute payments after almost inevitable relegation the following season rather than the opportunity to play in top flight. Its why I don't watch the PL or sky sports.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 22, 2020 13:49:10 GMT
So what would take next season, finish 6th in the table or a good FA Cup? Personally I couldn't careless if it was announced that all the cups were scrapped for next season, you only have to look our average home cup attendances to see most fans have lost interest in the cups.
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Post by spiess1 on Jun 22, 2020 13:58:42 GMT
That loss of interest in the FL Cup, Topps, is due to the trophy having too many handles. I have it on the best authority that a whole line of Rovers' managers have lost interest in progressing in said competition for that very reason.
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Post by clockendgas on Jun 22, 2020 14:23:03 GMT
That loss of interest in the FL Cup, Topps, is due to the trophy having too many handles. I have it on the best authority that a whole line of Rovers' managers have lost interest in progressing in said competition for that very reason. christ sake get a grip mate
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Post by neilv93 on Jun 22, 2020 14:55:48 GMT
I think the most practical situation for next season, given the pandemic and now compressed 20/21 season, is to scrap the league cup. Hardly any issue for us, we always go out on pens in the first round at home to a crap Championship side so big who cares.
Also means Sky Sports won't be fapping over City's run from 17/18 for another season.
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Post by chilly1883 on Jun 22, 2020 15:17:07 GMT
So what would take next season, finish 6th in the table or a good FA Cup? Personally I couldn't careless if it was announced that all the cups were scrapped for next season, you only have to look our average home cup attendances to see most fans have lost interest in the cups. i agree with some of what your saying, but I guarantee we’d all be queuing up for tickets against one of the big clubs.
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Post by spiess1 on Jun 22, 2020 15:20:01 GMT
''we always go out on pens in the first round at home to a crap Championship side'' B*gger. Why didn't you say this before?! I wasted time and money going to Chelsea and Wolves recently. I feel such a fool now.
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Post by singupgas on Jun 22, 2020 15:57:13 GMT
I would scrap it and the Micky mouse cup. Keeping only the FA cup and league football
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 22, 2020 22:07:29 GMT
So what would take next season, finish 6th in the table or a good FA Cup? Personally I couldn't careless if it was announced that all the cups were scrapped for next season, you only have to look our average home cup attendances to see most fans have lost interest in the cups. The excitement for a club like us is to get to the third round and hope for a Liverpool or man u tie.. I bet you'd care then.. That's our cup final. I couldn't care less about finishing 6th or 20th if finishing 6th meant losing in the Play off semi finals..
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Post by graceyboy on Jun 22, 2020 22:08:54 GMT
So what would take next season, finish 6th in the table or a good FA Cup? Personally I couldn't careless if it was announced that all the cups were scrapped for next season, you only have to look our average home cup attendances to see most fans have lost interest in the cups. The excitement for a club like us is to get to the third round and hope for a Liverpool or man u tie.. I bet you'd care then.. That's our cup final. I couldn't care less about finishing 6th or 21st if finishing 6th meant losing on the Play off semi finals.. You reckon if we drew a top PL club at home, we'd have a 'less than average attendance' what nonsense
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