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Post by pirate on Jul 31, 2020 14:26:51 GMT
Not what I've been told by a good source. Will only bring in another striker if JCH leaves. Three strikers at the club? I have to say that seems a bit low?! It is.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 31, 2020 14:30:00 GMT
Not what I've been told by a good source. Will only bring in another striker if JCH leaves. Three strikers at the club? I have to say that seems a bit low?! 5 if they deem the two young strikers that signed professional deals. Have a decent look at all 5 in pre season. If they are not ready, we can bring another player in on loan and loan one out.
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 31, 2020 15:04:42 GMT
Depends how good the others we've signed turn out to be.
James Daly could turn out to be a gem, as could Ayunga.
We're all just guessing at the moment.
Liverpool who have just romped the Premier League, don't have an array of striking options, their 3 literally play every game.
It's not always a necessity to have 4 or 5 strikers/forwards
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Post by pirate on Jul 31, 2020 15:09:16 GMT
Depends how good the others we've signed turn out to be. James Daly could turn out to be a gem, as could Ayunga. We're all just guessing at the moment. Liverpool who have just romped the Premier League, don't have an array of striking options, their 3 literally play every game. It's not always a necessity to have 4 or 5 strikers/forwards So if JCH picked up an injury you would be happy with Daly and Ayunga, who have scored a total of 0 goals in the football league? What happens if we pick up an injury to one of the 3 strikers and want to switch formation and play a front 2...who is there to make an impact off the bench? Need more options IMHO.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 31, 2020 15:13:15 GMT
Wasn't this guy mentioned on here the other week?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 15:14:05 GMT
Depends how good the others we've signed turn out to be. James Daly could turn out to be a gem, as could Ayunga. We're all just guessing at the moment. Liverpool who have just romped the Premier League, don't have an array of striking options, their 3 literally play every game. It's not always a necessity to have 4 or 5 strikers/forwards Especially when you play with just one out and out striker as we probably will. Bit of a wider issue in football as all fans want more strikers but it’s hard to attract a genuine number nine when a club has a clear first choice. We are a bit like Spurs - why would a number nine go there to compete against Harry Kane. Why would a decent league 1 or 2 striker come to rovers to play second fiddle to JCH?
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Jul 31, 2020 15:16:43 GMT
Depends how good the others we've signed turn out to be. James Daly could turn out to be a gem, as could Ayunga. We're all just guessing at the moment. Liverpool who have just romped the Premier League, don't have an array of striking options, their 3 literally play every game. It's not always a necessity to have 4 or 5 strikers/forwards So if JCH picked up an injury you would be happy with Daly and Ayunga, who have scored a total of 0 goals in the football league? What happens if we pick up an injury to one of the 3 strikers and want to switch formation and play a front 2...who is there to make an impact off the bench? Need more options IMHO. Not if he picks up an injury, when he picks up an injury
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 31, 2020 15:18:22 GMT
Depends how good the others we've signed turn out to be. James Daly could turn out to be a gem, as could Ayunga. We're all just guessing at the moment. Liverpool who have just romped the Premier League, don't have an array of striking options, their 3 literally play every game. It's not always a necessity to have 4 or 5 strikers/forwards So if JCH picked up an injury you would be happy with Daly and Ayunga, who have scored a total of 0 goals in the football league? What happens if we pick up an injury to one of the 3 strikers and want to switch formation and play a front 2...who is there to make an impact off the bench? Need more options IMHO. There's always the loan market, as well. We don't know how good the others are, yet. James Daly could turn out to be a 20 goal a season striker and Ayunga could get 10-15, we just don't know. If Liverpool were without Salah or Mane, or even Firminho for long periods and had to rely on Origi, they wouldn't of won the league, I am certain about that, they haven't got 4 or 5 strikers and they're the best team in the country. It's all just guess work and hypothetical how many strikers we need.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 31, 2020 15:19:08 GMT
Three strikers at the club? I have to say that seems a bit low?! It is. Unfortunately, if you are determined to limit your senior squad to 21 professionals and supplement it with your academy products, you cannot justify too many strikers and risk an unbalanced squad. If you’re lucky enough to have utility players like Mabbutt, David Williams, Pulis and, yes, Lockyer who can fill multiple positions without a noticeable drop in quality then maybe it can be achieved but when your academy reserves are blessed in terms of striking options (Warwick, Phillips and Hulbert) and you believe they can do a job for you when your first choice strikers are not available, it probably makes sense to you to take up more of your senior squad positions with individuals who can deliver chances for your striking options to convert.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 15:24:00 GMT
So if JCH picked up an injury you would be happy with Daly and Ayunga, who have scored a total of 0 goals in the football league? What happens if we pick up an injury to one of the 3 strikers and want to switch formation and play a front 2...who is there to make an impact off the bench? Need more options IMHO. Not if he picks up an injury, when he picks up an injury Strikers don’t come cheap so does a back up striker warrant a big slice of our budget? Playing a sole striker carries a bit of a dilemma. A manager will want cover but surely we can’t afford to pay big wages for someone to always on the bench unless JCH misses games injured again. A bit like trying to keep Blackman here to play second fiddle to Jaakkola.
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Post by james246 on Jul 31, 2020 15:27:20 GMT
Depends how good the others we've signed turn out to be. James Daly could turn out to be a gem, as could Ayunga. We're all just guessing at the moment. Liverpool who have just romped the Premier League, don't have an array of striking options, their 3 literally play every game. It's not always a necessity to have 4 or 5 strikers/forwards So if JCH picked up an injury you would be happy with Daly and Ayunga, who have scored a total of 0 goals in the football league? What happens if we pick up an injury to one of the 3 strikers and want to switch formation and play a front 2...who is there to make an impact off the bench? Need more options IMHO.just Agree three strikers is too low unless the club feel the two young forwards we have that recently signed Pro deals are the goods and can instantly step up to the plate if needed. This however is a gamble and I personally think we definitely need a fourth someone with league experience - Dominic Samuel would be a perfect fit
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 31, 2020 15:29:21 GMT
Depends how good the others we've signed turn out to be. James Daly could turn out to be a gem, as could Ayunga. We're all just guessing at the moment. Liverpool who have just romped the Premier League, don't have an array of striking options, their 3 literally play every game. It's not always a necessity to have 4 or 5 strikers/forwards Especially when you play with just one out and out striker as we probably will. Bit of a wider issue in football as all fans want more strikers but it’s hard to attract a genuine number nine when a club has a clear first choice. We are a bit like Spurs - why would a number nine go there to compete against Harry Kane. Why would a decent league 1 or 2 striker come to rovers to play second fiddle to JCH? If we are going to play one up top, which I think we will too, it'll be interesting to see if where Nicholson and possibly Barrett will fit in. The top sides in the Premier League whether it be Liverpool, Man City, Utd, Chelsea and Leicester, all play with just the one out and out striker, and play with 2 wide Inside Forwards who all chip in with 10,15, 20 goals themselves. As do Brentford, imo the best Footballing team in The Championship.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 31, 2020 15:31:10 GMT
Of course another principle the Wael regime wants to commit to is for the first team to feature and develop more of our homegrown talent. Would signing another striker with a similar record as a Reilly or Nichols (which is presumably the wage range and ability range we can afford) be the best way of serving our club’s needs or would we be better served by distributing their 14 + 20 appearances (4 goals) amongst our youngsters to kick start their careers?
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Jul 31, 2020 15:33:17 GMT
Not if he picks up an injury, when he picks up an injury Strikers don’t come cheap so does a back up striker warrant a big slice of our budget? Playing a sole striker carries a bit of a dilemma. A manager will want cover but surely we can’t afford to pay big wages for someone to always on the bench unless JCH misses games injured again. A bit like trying to keep Blackman here to play second fiddle to Jaakkola. I just feel that with his "unspecified" groin injury that he has had surgery on its a risk i wouldnt be happy to take, In the games that Garner was in charge for he didn't seem suited to Garners style, Let him go... pick up a couple of decent loaners and get another winger
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Post by pirate on Jul 31, 2020 15:34:01 GMT
So if JCH picked up an injury you would be happy with Daly and Ayunga, who have scored a total of 0 goals in the football league? What happens if we pick up an injury to one of the 3 strikers and want to switch formation and play a front 2...who is there to make an impact off the bench? Need more options IMHO. There's always the loan market, as well. We don't know how good the others are, yet. James Daly could turn out to be a 20 goal a season striker and Ayunga could get 10-15, we just don't know. If Liverpool were without Salah or Mane, or even Firminho for long periods and had to rely on Origi, they wouldn't of won the league, I am certain about that, they haven't got 4 or 5 strikers and they're the best team in the country. It's all just guess work and hypothetical how many strikers we need. Fingers crossed they might develop into good players, but I personally think it's it's a bit of a stretch of the imagination to think Daly and Ayunga could be 15-20 goal strikers at this level at this stage. Ayunga for example, is 23-years-old and couldn't score at u23 level for Brighton and the season before last only managed 6 goals in 33 National League games. Before that he got 4 goals in 23 games in the Irish League and 1 goal in 10 league games for Burgess Hill Town in the Isthmian League. A very risky strategy going into the season relying on the three we have to score the goals needed IMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 15:35:54 GMT
Especially when you play with just one out and out striker as we probably will. Bit of a wider issue in football as all fans want more strikers but it’s hard to attract a genuine number nine when a club has a clear first choice. We are a bit like Spurs - why would a number nine go there to compete against Harry Kane. Why would a decent league 1 or 2 striker come to rovers to play second fiddle to JCH? If we are going to play one up top, which I think we will too, it'll be interesting to see if where Nicholson and possibly Barrett will fit in. The top sides in the Premier League whether it be Liverpool, Man City, Utd, Chelsea and Leicester, all play with just the one out and out striker, and play with 2 wide Inside Forwards who all chip in with 10,15, 20 goals themselves. As do Brentford, imo the best Footballing team in The Championship. I think a 4-3-3 would see JCH central with Nicholson on one side. The other side maybe Rodman (or a new signing) with Barrett playing the most advanced in a midfield three?
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Post by james246 on Jul 31, 2020 15:40:53 GMT
Especially when you play with just one out and out striker as we probably will. Bit of a wider issue in football as all fans want more strikers but it’s hard to attract a genuine number nine when a club has a clear first choice. We are a bit like Spurs - why would a number nine go there to compete against Harry Kane. Why would a decent league 1 or 2 striker come to rovers to play second fiddle to JCH? If we are going to play one up top, which I think we will too, it'll be interesting to see if where Nicholson and possibly Barrett will fit in. The top sides in the Premier League whether it be Liverpool, Man City, Utd, Chelsea and Leicester, all play with just the one out and out striker, and play with 2 wide Inside Forwards who all chip in with 10,15, 20 goals themselves. As do Brentford, imo the best Footballing team in The Championship. Before JA joined the talk was of bringing a new striker in to play with JCH not to replace him, this suggests it will not be just one up top, but we shall see
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 31, 2020 15:47:00 GMT
If we are going to play one up top, which I think we will too, it'll be interesting to see if where Nicholson and possibly Barrett will fit in. The top sides in the Premier League whether it be Liverpool, Man City, Utd, Chelsea and Leicester, all play with just the one out and out striker, and play with 2 wide Inside Forwards who all chip in with 10,15, 20 goals themselves. As do Brentford, imo the best Footballing team in The Championship. Before JA joined the talk was of bringing a new striker in to play with JCH not to replace him, this suggests it will not be just one up top, but we shall see Again it's all just guess work, but judging by the defenders we've brought in, I think we will possibly be playing a 3-4-3, as it stands Ehmer, Baldwin and Kilgour as the back 3. Leahy/another and Little/Hare as wing backs Grant/Upson/Ogogo and hopefully another creative player signed. Nicholson on the right Bennett possibly/Another Left sided player signed. JCH as the main man.
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Post by Keynsham Rover on Jul 31, 2020 16:15:07 GMT
Before JA joined the talk was of bringing a new striker in to play with JCH not to replace him, this suggests it will not be just one up top, but we shall see Again it's all just guess work, but judging by the defenders we've brought in, I think we will possibly be playing a 3-4-3, as it stands Ehmer, Baldwin and Kilgour as the back 3. Leahy/another and Little/Hare as wing backs Grant/Upson/Ogogo and hopefully another creative player signed. Nicholson on the right Bennett possibly/Another Left sided player signed. JCH as the main man. this is how I see it panning out too to be honest, with a fluid front three similar to the way Wolves set up. The only thing worrying me is a lack of creativity to aid our forward players, unless Barret can step up to the plate in a midfeild two next to a hard worker like Ogogo or Hargreaves.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 16:17:40 GMT
Before JA joined the talk was of bringing a new striker in to play with JCH not to replace him, this suggests it will not be just one up top, but we shall see Again it's all just guess work, but judging by the defenders we've brought in, I think we will possibly be playing a 3-4-3, as it stands Ehmer, Baldwin and Kilgour as the back 3. Leahy/another and Little/Hare as wing backs Grant/Upson/Ogogo and hopefully another creative player signed. Nicholson on the right Bennett possibly/Another Left sided player signed. JCH as the main man. You surely don't mean Bennett - Barrett maybe or even Jayden Mitchell - Lawson perhaps?
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