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Post by GasAttacK on Jul 28, 2020 10:59:34 GMT
Way to soon to start talking about promotion.
We've lost Craig, Holmes-Dennis, O.Clarke, Sercombe, Nichols, Reilly. Davies is out long term and loan players Blackman, Mitchell-Lawson and Ginnelly have returned to their parent clubs.
We've made 4 signings that look good on paper, Ehmer, Baldwin, Grant and Nicholson. I'm pleased with all 4.
However, the only position we look stronger than the squad that played in Jan, Feb & Mar 2020 is the centre of defence. Whether Grant is an improvement on O.Clarke / Sercombe and Nicholsson is better than Ginnelly or Mitchell-Lawson remains to be seen.
The squad Garner worked with last season won about 2 in 20 games.
Our summer transfer dealings have started well but I think we need a few more improvements than those mentioned above before we can start talking about promotion. We also need to agree a new deal with JCH.
We need 2 or 3 more players to improve the starting 11 and 2 or 3 more to add strength to the squad in my opinion.
I'm optimistic as there is plenty of time to make those signings and the ones brought in so far look promising.
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Post by rossinio on Jul 28, 2020 11:05:32 GMT
46 to go, you never know...
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jul 28, 2020 11:56:02 GMT
Way to soon to start talking about promotion. We've lost Craig, Holmes-Dennis, O.Clarke, Sercombe, Nichols, Reilly. Davies is out long term and loan players Blackman, Mitchell-Lawson and Ginnelly have returned to their parent clubs. We've made 4 signings that look good on paper, Ehmer, Baldwin, Grant and Nicholson. I'm pleased with all 4. However, the only position we look stronger than the squad that played in Jan, Feb & Mar 2020 is the centre of defence. Whether Grant is an improvement on O.Clarke / Sercombe and Nicholsson is better than Ginnelly or Mitchell-Lawson remains to be seen. The squad Garner worked with last season won about 2 in 20 games. Our summer transfer dealings have started well but I think we need a few more improvements than those mentioned above before we can start talking about promotion. We also need to agree a new deal with JCH. We need 2 or 3 more players to improve the starting 11 and 2 or 3 more to add strength to the squad in my opinion. I'm optimistic as there is plenty of time to make those signings and the ones brought in so far look promising. Craig was such an important player for us that I’d suggest that even that statement is premature. Reason to be hopeful though.
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Post by axegas on Jul 28, 2020 12:15:07 GMT
I think it will be who Garner signs to replace Sercombe and Clarke that decides our fortunes next season to some extent. We've got the ingredients of a good side, a top keeper, a 15-20 goal a season striker (providing we keep JCH) and decent centre backs on paper. What we lack right now though is creativity and someone bring JCH and others into play. The midfield has probably been the weakest area for us for a couple of seasons now, address it and we could challenge for a place in the top 10.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 12:26:47 GMT
Bagurk!
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Post by GasAttacK on Jul 28, 2020 12:43:15 GMT
Way to soon to start talking about promotion. We've lost Craig, Holmes-Dennis, O.Clarke, Sercombe, Nichols, Reilly. Davies is out long term and loan players Blackman, Mitchell-Lawson and Ginnelly have returned to their parent clubs. We've made 4 signings that look good on paper, Ehmer, Baldwin, Grant and Nicholson. I'm pleased with all 4. However, the only position we look stronger than the squad that played in Jan, Feb & Mar 2020 is the centre of defence. Whether Grant is an improvement on O.Clarke / Sercombe and Nicholsson is better than Ginnelly or Mitchell-Lawson remains to be seen. The squad Garner worked with last season won about 2 in 20 games. Our summer transfer dealings have started well but I think we need a few more improvements than those mentioned above before we can start talking about promotion. We also need to agree a new deal with JCH. We need 2 or 3 more players to improve the starting 11 and 2 or 3 more to add strength to the squad in my opinion. I'm optimistic as there is plenty of time to make those signings and the ones brought in so far look promising. Craig was such an important player for us that I’d suggest that even that statement is premature. Reason to be hopeful though. Agree with that. Craig was underrated by many and Davies was decent when fit, so I may have been a little premature assuming our new centre backs are an improvement. Only time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 12:49:58 GMT
Ben Garner has never won an away game. ...didn't win too many at home either. Inexperienced and reactionary. Not convinced he's the man for the job but he's getting his own players in now so no excuses. I'm sure Hargreaves and Mansell could do an equally good (bad) job to date. Hope I'm wrong as normal and we'll go the season unbeaten, stadium announced and Championship footie a comin'.
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Post by socrates on Jul 28, 2020 12:50:01 GMT
Any outsider reading this will be going back to their forum telling everyone how we’re arrogant and think we’re going to waltz the season. Particularly OTIB. Even if the threads and posts are tongue in cheek You know exactly what I was thinking dont you, yes I did mean that horrible lot, anything they can post on their 1982 ltd forum about us, any ammo what so ever they will use, they will because thats just the way they are, infact I think we should take bets how long it will be until it is on there if it isn't already that is Who cares though ? Let them say what they think about what they read on here. Personally I’ve got way too much on my hands to be wasting time reading another clubs forum, especially theirs.
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Post by badengas on Jul 28, 2020 17:24:57 GMT
Googling that made me cross my legs ! When we go up the naysayers can form an orderly queue.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2020 18:04:13 GMT
Craig was such an important player for us that I’d suggest that even that statement is premature. Reason to be hopeful though. Agree with that. Craig was underrated by many and Davies was decent when fit, so I may have been a little premature assuming our new centre backs are an improvement. Only time will tell. I sense fans are getting a bit carried away about Baldwin as he's done little at L1 level for a couple of seasons, he might be a good signing then again it might become obvious why he's not been playing L1 football recently! Until we sign a decent creative midfielder we're going to struggle to create chances/score goals that signing is a crucial one, and we still need a No 10 who can guarantee us 10/15 goals a season. Sign decent players for those position and a couple more wingers on loan and we could be looking contenders.
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Post by badengas on Jul 31, 2020 22:13:26 GMT
Back on the alcohol and drugs. Can't explain that more Gasheads don't believe.
We are going up you Mother Hubbard's x
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Post by Marshy on Aug 1, 2020 9:10:55 GMT
Back on the alcohol and drugs. Can't explain that more Gasheads don't believe. We are going up you Mother Hubbard's x How’s your head this morning? 😂 Did you manage to give the dog a bone last night, or was the cupboard bare?
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Post by yaz on Aug 1, 2020 18:19:47 GMT
As long as we don’t get referees like the Cup Final one ...,,? So red from the beginning. Unbelievable bookings.
Why is VAR and referees so bad in this country. VAR doesnt affect us but referees are so sh..,,, Very rarely will you get a good fair one.
UTG
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 1, 2020 20:42:50 GMT
I’m glad Arsenal won but the sending off wasn’t a yellow. Somebody’s toenail may be millimetres off side and a goal disallowed yet VAR looks at it but a second yellow card and VAR isn’t allowed to look at it. What happened to the referee making a clear and obvious error? VAR is stupid or rather the people who make the rules about using it are. Just be thankful we don’t have VAR in League 1. UTG!
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Post by yaz on Aug 1, 2020 21:28:46 GMT
I’m glad Arsenal won but the sending off wasn’t a yellow. Somebody’s toenail may be millimetres off side and a goal disallowed yet VAR looks at it but a second yellow card and VAR isn’t allowed to look at it. What happened to the referee making a clear and obvious error? VAR is stupid or rather the people who make the rules about using it are. Just be thankful we don’t have VAR in League 1. UTG! VAR has been used terribly in this country and seems to be hidden with faceless people based in London making decisions. When it was first implemented in the World Cup in Russia it was a resounding success just like the whole event. Referees had touchline screens to go and review the action and cross-check their decision. In this country, I don’t think I have ever seen a referee look at a touchline screen. Why should faceless “judges” be better qualified than the person on the spot to change / stick with a decision? Most referees will go with what they see and review themself AND will Change their decision if warranted. There have been some shocking decisions during lockdown; personally I think the worst one was the Fernandez penalty for Man U with a penalty awarded. It should have been the other way around! The Sheffield United goal versus Villa was more touchline technology but should have been overturned? The commentators do NOT help as they make decisions by voicing their opinions before the VAR officials! In cricket, commentators do not say anything to influence the 3rd umpire until after a decision has been made! This works well. We luckily do not have VAR in L1 as yet but with some of the shocking decisions we see week in and week out, it may work in our favour. Fans of opposition clubs also seem to think referees are terrible? Linesmen generally do not make any decisions apart from offside? The worst refereeing I have seen in recent years was a midweek match at Bury a couple of seasons ago when we lost 3-0, Sinc sent off for 2 simulations, 2 blatant penalties refused for us, etc. The referee was BenT Oner! Apparently he grew up a few miles from their ground! Let’s see what this season holds for us. IFollow may bring a wider audience so referees will be much more in the spotlight I hope? UTG
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 1, 2020 23:01:52 GMT
Can’t argue with any of that yaz. Linos don’t make any decisions now, except offsides. Even throw ins they wait to see what the referee decides and then stick their flags up. But I’d also say that players haven’t helped themselves tbf. Some players have spent time falling over, pretending to be badly fouled when in many cases they were beaten in a tackle. So in a way they've got what they deserved, referees who are unable to tell the difference between simulation and a real foul. Too many refs aren’t fit and can’t keep up with play and are making decisions from too far away. UTG!
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Post by Marshy on Aug 2, 2020 7:01:49 GMT
Can’t argue with any of that yaz. Linos don’t make any decisions now, except offsides. Even throw ins they wait to see what the referee decides and then stick their flags up. But I’d also say that players haven’t helped themselves tbf. Some players have spent time falling over, pretending to be badly fouled when in many cases they were beaten in a tackle. So in a way they've got what they deserved, referees who are unable to tell the difference between simulation and a real foul. Too many refs aren’t fit and can’t keep up with play and are making decisions from too far away. UTG! I think all referees should be replaced by Auto Sergei’s.
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Post by yaz on Aug 2, 2020 8:20:46 GMT
Can’t argue with any of that yaz. Linos don’t make any decisions now, except offsides. Even throw ins they wait to see what the referee decides and then stick their flags up. But I’d also say that players haven’t helped themselves tbf. Some players have spent time falling over, pretending to be badly fouled when in many cases they were beaten in a tackle. So in a way they've got what they deserved, referees who are unable to tell the difference between simulation and a real foul. Too many refs aren’t fit and can’t keep up with play and are making decisions from too far away. UTG! I think all referees should be replaced by Auto Sergei’s. Joking apart, I kept saying this from last season, especially for cricket. You don't need cricket umpires with technology these days? The game can be managed off the pitch? What does an umpire do in te basic sense? Stand behind the wicket: - count the number of balls in an over (mistakes are made) - watch for No Ball or illegal ball (mistakes made aplenty) - lbw? - caught? - run out? - runs scored? - monitor sledging, cheating, etc. Most of these in recent years have been caught off the pitch via technology and not by umpires - keep the peace between players (only needed if Oz playing) - weather e.g. Rain judgements, etc. These can also be done off pitch using technology - etc. So what does the umpire add? Looking at the recent WI test series here, the umpires were awful! Football is different to cricket because it involves contact between opposition players; tackles, positioning at free kicks, corners, etc. That is one of the key areas that technology cannot currently cater for within reasonable time i.e. Judging whether the contact is illegal or not? To start with, get rid of linesmen and replace with modern technology. Offsides, balls out of touch, etc. can easily be decided where required by the referee or off pitch technology within an instant. The linesman at the Mem on the East Terrace side is always in the half adjoining the North Terrace. Does anyone know why this is always the case? EFL Rules? One classic case of terrible offside decision was Us playing Scunthorpe at 3pm 2/3 seasons ago on a sunny day. Sun was low over the Family Stand on the West Stand and Scunthorpe were gifted a goal with the goal scorer standing by the post and coming out and kicking the ball with another Scunthorpe player already offside and affecting play. It was obvious the linesman could not see anything because of the low sun! Enjoy this SunDay! UTG PS For the first time for months, today is a Sunday that actually feels like a Sunday? I know a lot of people felt yesterday felt like a Sunday as well!
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Post by yaz on Aug 2, 2020 8:30:34 GMT
I’m glad Arsenal won but the sending off wasn’t a yellow. Somebody’s toenail may be millimetres off side and a goal disallowed yet VAR looks at it but a second yellow card and VAR isn’t allowed to look at it. What happened to the referee making a clear and obvious error? VAR is stupid or rather the people who make the rules about using it are. Just be thankful we don’t have VAR in League 1. UTG! From 15 minutes into the game, it looked like the referee was pro Arsenal and I made this comment to my mates. Looking back at the game, just about every close decision went to Arsenal? Rules for penalties seem to change all the time; commentators do not help. Sometimes Where the first offence occurred, other times not. I feel sorry for Wolves. Arsenal deserved to win but were largely helped by the refereeing decisions which then affected Chelsea's play negatively. I think most Chelsea players had given up well before the end; the game and appealing for fouls. UTG
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 3, 2020 11:53:39 GMT
You do realise these sorts of threads always bite us on the arse and give the teds another thing to laugh about?
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