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Post by eastgas on Aug 6, 2020 18:20:53 GMT
So 22 player's, falling to only 20 the following season. So what do teams do that already have more than that contracted for the following season?? Will be harder to offload player's, as a lot of clubs, will have too many players already. So what happens to all these players? 20 is that not big. Most teams will have 2 goalkeepers, so that only leaves a squad of 18 outfield player's. I am not a big fan of the proposed salary cap and even less so of a squad limit of 22-20 players! I hope they look into this and this doesn’t come into effect
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Post by wertongas on Aug 6, 2020 18:34:14 GMT
I agree that larger clubs in the same league with a bigger turnover should have a higher salary cap, however clubs debts should also be taken into consideration, Ipswich are a large club with a larger income but they have debts of 95 million then there is Charlton who could fold due to bad management why should these clubs with huge debts be allowed to spend more money on salaries than well run clubs such as Accrington who keep within their means. I think poorly run clubs with big debts should be penalized and their salary cap lowered in relation to their debt.Alot of the high spending clubs with big debts owe money in transfer fees ie Bournemouth with debts of over 100 million owe 80 million in transfers if these clubs go to the wall it's not just their own fans that suffer but those of smaller clubs that they owe money two.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2020 18:35:30 GMT
They've produced a 17 page document with no other solutions offered as far as I can see, apart from they don't want the wage cap, both organisations are as bad as each other.
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Post by eastgas on Aug 6, 2020 18:44:43 GMT
I agree that larger clubs in the same league with a bigger turnover should have a higher salary cap, however clubs debts should also be taken into consideration, Ipswich are a large club with a larger income but they have debts of 95 million then there is Charlton who could fold due to bad management why should these clubs with huge debts be allowed to spend more money on salaries than well run clubs such as Accrington who keep within their means. I think poorly run clubs with big debts should be penalized and their salary cap lowered in relation to their debt.Alot of the high spending clubs with big debts owe money in transfer fees ie Bournemouth with debts of over 100 million owe 80 million in transfers if these clubs go to the wall it's not just their own fans that suffer but those of smaller clubs that they owe money two. Some very good ideas there taking debt into consideration
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Post by wertongas on Aug 7, 2020 8:11:13 GMT
A way of encouraging bigger clubs to manage themselves better and reduce debt would be to raise the salary cap in conjunction with the reduction of debt, so if they bring debt down, reduce the chance of going into administration then they can spend more of their income on salaries.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 7, 2020 12:28:54 GMT
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 7, 2020 12:39:21 GMT
League 1 and 2 clubs have voted in favour of introducing a salary cap, taking effect immediately.
£2.5m for L1 and £1.5m for L2.
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Post by baggins on Aug 7, 2020 12:55:33 GMT
League 1 and 2 clubs have voted in favour of introducing a salary cap, taking effect immediately. £2.5m for L1 and £1.5m for L2. Is that per player? Only joking.
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Post by TugPhase on Aug 7, 2020 13:13:22 GMT
Very interesting. Short term it looks like there won't be much impact; Ipswich, based on their calculations, can still afford to go out this summer and get 4-5 Players at £5k per week should they wish to. Also, players aged 21 or under don't count towards the salary cap or the senior squad players. Next summer onward will be when things really mix up, when contracts start to expire, there will a lot of good players looking at significant pay cuts or desperately trying to find themselves a Championship club. Plus players currently 21 (Ipswich have 7!) will suddenly count towards the squad size restriction so clubs will be having to trim players. Any talented teenagers will become seriously in demand.
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Post by graceyboy on Aug 7, 2020 13:47:35 GMT
Just read the mutterings from clubs via the BP website using words like "illegal" re the salary cap vote. It appears that it won't get forced through and that there is a lot of resistance against it. No wonder we've paid mega money wages to attract people like zain from coventry
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 7, 2020 13:52:03 GMT
Just read the mutterings from clubs via the BP website using words like "illegal" re the salary cap vote. It appears that it won't get forced through and that there is a lot of resistance against it. No wonder we've paid mega money wages to attract people like zain from coventry It has been agreed to this afternoon.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 7, 2020 14:16:36 GMT
Very interesting. Short term it looks like there won't be much impact; Ipswich, based on their calculations, can still afford to go out this summer and get 4-5 Players at £5k per week should they wish to. Also, players aged 21 or under don't count towards the salary cap or the senior squad players. Next summer onward will be when things really mix up, when contracts start to expire, there will a lot of good players looking at significant pay cuts or desperately trying to find themselves a Championship club. Plus players currently 21 (Ipswich have 7!) will suddenly count towards the squad size restriction so clubs will be having to trim players. Any talented teenagers will become seriously in demand. Not sure how it will work as I assume they'll have to sign players on at least 2 year contracts and they can't afford to be paying them £5K next year or they will have to pay some squad players peanuts in order to keep below the £2.5m cap, Wael, Blackpool and GC do seem to be one step ahead of the rest getting deals done early.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 7, 2020 14:26:36 GMT
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Post by ineedgas on Aug 7, 2020 15:24:17 GMT
At least the poor solicitor's will be able to make a few bob finding ways around it 🤔
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 7, 2020 15:25:54 GMT
Martyn Starnes has confirmed we voted in favour of it. No surprise there really with the early signings we have made.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 7, 2020 15:41:24 GMT
Well the clubs voted for it and it’s now up to them to make it work. The rules and regulations around the salary cap sound complicated so that will enable different interpretations of what they mean. Over the next week expect club legal people to be looking at the details to identify the areas where clubs can get around it. I’m sure that many players in clubs where the owners are wealthy to be taking up second contracts as “advisors”, even gardeners, possibly chauffeurs etc without working in such roles of course. And if anyone thinks the EFL will be able to police this they must be living in cloud cuckoo land. Come the end of the season there will be multiple charges against clubs, appeals by clubs where they are found guilty and no one will have any certainty about who’s been promoted or relegated until months later, if then. It will become an administrative VAR system, we wait an age to know what the heck is happening. Crazy! The lunatics have truly taken over the asylum. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 7, 2020 15:42:11 GMT
At least the poor solicitor's will be able to make a few bob finding ways around it 🤔 As we speak!! 😉 UTG!
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Post by blueridge on Aug 8, 2020 8:21:21 GMT
So, we or any club in EFL1 & 2 develop players through their respective Academies but we are unable to keep them once they develop into EFL standard players because we can’t afford to pay them their worth. Why would any young promising player or any player come to that want to commit to an extended contract with any EFL Club when they know they are only ever going to be paid peanuts? Really hope the lawyers are able to prove that this move is ‘illegal’.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 8, 2020 9:17:00 GMT
Has it been confirmed at 1.3k a week though. Thought that figure was published in an article for League 2 before. It said each old player would count as the average for the league, which was 1.3 in League 2. I'm guessing it's higher than that in League 1. Not seen the figures confirmed yet, but I'm guessing in league 1 it will be higher.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 8, 2020 9:25:19 GMT
Very interesting. Short term it looks like there won't be much impact; Ipswich, based on their calculations, can still afford to go out this summer and get 4-5 Players at £5k per week should they wish to. Also, players aged 21 or under don't count towards the salary cap or the senior squad players. Next summer onward will be when things really mix up, when contracts start to expire, there will a lot of good players looking at significant pay cuts or desperately trying to find themselves a Championship club. Plus players currently 21 (Ipswich have 7!) will suddenly count towards the squad size restriction so clubs will be having to trim players. Any talented teenagers will become seriously in demand. It means we are unlikely to off load player's like Bennett, or if we do, we will still be paying towards their wages. Especially if they had y to drop to league 2 where the average wage will be less than 2k a week. Think the 1.3 average was for League 2, not seen the figure for League 1 yet. But I expect the average wage in League 1 is higher than 1.3k a week. Also means we will struggle to give JCH a new deal now. As if we gave him a 3 year deal on 4k a week, it will hit our budget for years. It means a bigger League 1 club kind Ipswich will struggle to sign him as well now though. But if a Championship club comes in, we will have no chance. Expect he would have left of a Championship club came in anyway. But now I think he will probally run his contact down. Hope I'm wrong though.
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