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Post by Goose on Sept 8, 2020 21:33:56 GMT
Yes last season was poor by anyone's standards and everyone knows it from within the club top to bottom.
However throughout the pandemic the slate has been wiped clean, our club is far more professional and the philosophy is sustainable and where the club should be heading... So far we have played the following games of the new season;
Friendlies - a chance to build up fitness after the lockdown, experiment a little and see what happens. The result isn't the main factor here and results are pretty much a lottery
League cup - first competitive game with half a new team, yes whilst the result want what we desire, there was glimpses of what BG is trying to do. Again many examples of lower League being victorious.
MMC (Micky mouse cup) - chance to blood youngsters... SECOND competitive game after lockdown
JCH, many people are saying why didn't we get someone in beforehand... What if we did then JCH decided to stay?!? Some potential signings (whilst JCH on board) may have said they needed a decision there and then or they would look elsewhere. We don't know what has gone on in the background.
Yes I agree the results haven't been as expected, but in all honesty with the whole situation with the world which has affected football (and yes it has affected our opponents too) can anyone been surprised?
As always there will be ups and downs to any season. But throughout lockdown as I said everything has been positive.... Let's give the guys a chance... Otherwise WHAT IS THE POINT
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Post by markczgas on Sept 8, 2020 21:47:36 GMT
So your goose hasn't been cooked yet. Good on you !
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 8, 2020 21:51:10 GMT
I think most here will always be a fan of the club and support where they can. We all want to win and progress. I think..
"Otherwise WHAT IS THE POINT" The point is, if you ignore the past, you're set to make the same mistakes.
We can today make a difference. We have time to exploit the transfer window with a proven manager at this level and invest in a model that has more leadership credibility than we have now.
Those are two fundamental points that provide optimism and opportunity for you, I and every other GasHead to get behind 100%..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 21:51:38 GMT
Yes last season was poor by anyone's standards and everyone knows it from within the club top to bottom. However throughout the pandemic the slate has been wiped clean, our club is far more professional and the philosophy is sustainable and where the club should be heading... So far we have played the following games of the new season; Friendlies - a chance to build up fitness after the lockdown, experiment a little and see what happens. The result isn't the main factor here and results are pretty much a lottery League cup - first competitive game with half a new team, yes whilst the result want what we desire, there was glimpses of what BG is trying to do. Again many examples of lower League being victorious. MMC (Micky mouse cup) - chance to blood youngsters... SECOND competitive game after lockdown JCH, many people are saying why didn't we get someone in beforehand... What if we did then JCH decided to stay?!? Some potential signings (whilst JCH on board) may have said they needed a decision there and then or they would look elsewhere. We don't know what has gone on in the background. Yes I agree the results haven't been as expected, but in all honesty with the whole situation with the world which has affected football (and yes it has affected our opponents too) can anyone been surprised? As always there will be ups and downs to any season. But throughout lockdown as I said everything has been positive.... Let's give the guys a chance... Otherwise WHAT IS THE POINT Yeah BG is great isn’t he. Tactical and pre game articulated genius that’s toying with us until he gets us promoted early in Feb 21 just so he can say I told you so to the fans that thought they had a decent understanding of ball!
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Post by yaz on Sept 8, 2020 22:02:22 GMT
I think people are just very disappointed with the quality of the football we are playing. There is no sustained control of the ball and therefore pressure being applied. Players do not look like they are anywhere near gelling as yet. Disjointed and almost individual football as opposed to smooth passing and flowing football. The only positives I have seen so far are Ayunga who looks like a very good and promising replacement for JCH (who I think was our best player for 2 seasons by a mile) and JML who for a loanee seems to run his heart out for us and would probably be served better in a more accomplished team than ours at present. JML looks promising and should go on to better things? Otherwise, not much to say as yet about the other players; early days yet? JVS needs practice at passing and kicking long balls better.
Managerial tactics, albeit these are not League games, are indescribable? Teams are built around players, not players around a certain style unless you bring in players to play that style. So far, our players, in the majority, do not look like they can play this style; further, some look too casual on the ball and make too many simple mistakes for L1 level. Our marking at set pieces and when pressed is woeful so far.
Still, it can only get better.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 8, 2020 22:11:44 GMT
Garner’s reign has been like a slow motion car crash. I think a lot of gasheads have accepted that it is not going to work out. We can continue the free fall or act and save the season. I have yet to see a performance or read anything on here that would change my mind.
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Post by axegas on Sept 8, 2020 22:14:39 GMT
A 2-2 draw against a strong Walsall side in a Mickey Mouse cup when we had several youngster making their debuts and in general a 2nd string side out there, despite everything really isn’t that bad. I think the game just took on a bit more importance as people were looking for a bounce back on Saturday’s disappointing display and signs that we will be an improvement on the side under Garner last season with no league fixtures being played yet.
Really it was an occasion to blood the youngsters a bit more and see if some of the fringe members of the squad were capable of stepping up and putting themselves in the forefront of BG’s mind for Saturday’s team selection.
Unfortunately, it was a disappointing performance and I suspect a few will drift further out of Garners thoughts after that. Shouldn’t read much more into it than that though IMO, saturday is the big one and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that we’ll bolstered by Jaakkola and a new striker.
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Post by yaz on Sept 8, 2020 22:18:23 GMT
Garner’s reign has been like a slow motion car crash. I think a lot of gasheads have accepted that it is not going to work out. We can continue the free fall or act and save the season. I have yet to see a performance or read anything on here that would change my mind. Aren't we all glad that we have not been there at the matches so far? Of course, our fans do give the players an extra "kick" - maybe that is what is missing for our players amid this surreal atmosphere of empty grounds? Maybe us not being there is the real problem; we are therefore to blame to some extent? Lettuce In! UTG
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 22:20:22 GMT
A 2-2 draw against a strong Walsall side in a Mickey Mouse cup when we had several youngster making their debuts and in general a 2nd string side out there, despite everything really isn’t that bad. I think the game just took on a bit more importance as people were looking for a bounce back on Saturday’s disappointing display and signs that we will be an improvement on the side under Garner last season with no league fixtures being played yet. Really it was an occasion to blood the youngsters a bit more and see if some of the fringe members of the squad were capable of stepping up and putting themselves in the forefront of BG’s mind for Saturday’s team selection. Unfortunately, it was a disappointing performance and I suspect a few will drift further out of Garners thoughts after that. Shouldn’t read much more into it than that though IMO, saturday is the big one and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that we’ll bolstered by Jaakkola and a new striker. You lost the crowd after “2-2 draw against a strong Walsall”...
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Post by markczgas on Sept 8, 2020 22:23:47 GMT
A 2-2 draw against a strong Walsall side in a Mickey Mouse cup when we had several youngster making their debuts and in general a 2nd string side out there, despite everything really isn’t that bad. I think the game just took on a bit more importance as people were looking for a bounce back on Saturday’s disappointing display and signs that we will be an improvement on the side under Garner last season with no league fixtures being played yet. Really it was an occasion to blood the youngsters a bit more and see if some of the fringe members of the squad were capable of stepping up and putting themselves in the forefront of BG’s mind for Saturday’s team selection. Unfortunately, it was a disappointing performance and I suspect a few will drift further out of Garners thoughts after that. Shouldn’t read much more into it than that though IMO, saturday is the big one and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that w e’ll bolstered by Jaakkola and a new striker.also a big factor is we'll be playing in an empty stadium.
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Post by axegas on Sept 8, 2020 22:23:56 GMT
A 2-2 draw against a strong Walsall side in a Mickey Mouse cup when we had several youngster making their debuts and in general a 2nd string side out there, despite everything really isn’t that bad. I think the game just took on a bit more importance as people were looking for a bounce back on Saturday’s disappointing display and signs that we will be an improvement on the side under Garner last season with no league fixtures being played yet. Really it was an occasion to blood the youngsters a bit more and see if some of the fringe members of the squad were capable of stepping up and putting themselves in the forefront of BG’s mind for Saturday’s team selection. Unfortunately, it was a disappointing performance and I suspect a few will drift further out of Garners thoughts after that. Shouldn’t read much more into it than that though IMO, saturday is the big one and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that we’ll bolstered by Jaakkola and a new striker. You lost the crowd after “2-2 draw against a strong Walsall”... and you lost the crowd by not replying anything constructive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 22:29:13 GMT
You lost the crowd after “2-2 draw against a strong Walsall”... and you lost the crowd by not replying anything constructive. Just coz you think it don’t make it true. Your response is my ball going home. You win but everyone still thinks you are a lady garden.
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 9, 2020 19:39:12 GMT
One thing about Garner, he has a lot of people on here making excuses for him, just remember, 3rd to 14th, the sort of run that DC had the season before he was "sacked". Garner getting it right? what is it he's getting right? Football is a results business, and you either win games or you lose them. I think we will lose a lot more than we will win, starting saturday.
I just cannot believe that people are willing to sacrifice a whole season so he can "get it right". And do modern players really need to "gel" after a month of training?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 9, 2020 19:45:46 GMT
One thing about Garner, he has a lot of people on here making excuses for him, just remember, 3rd to 14th, the sort of run that DC had the season before he was "sacked". Garner getting it right? what is it he's getting right? Football is a results business, and you either win games or you lose them. I think we will lose a lot more than we will win, starting saturday. I just cannot believe that people are willing to sacrifice a whole season so he can "get it right". And do modern players really need to "gel" after a month of training? I don't think there's much of a chance that BG will get it right, but at the same time, I don't think you can not give him the best part of a season to prove it. It's just how management works, generally, you get a season to prove yourself. If I ran the club, I wouldn't be very optimistic about my investment at this stage, but at the same time, I'd feel obliged to back my decision to appoint him.
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 9, 2020 19:48:31 GMT
One thing about Garner, he has a lot of people on here making excuses for him, just remember, 3rd to 14th, the sort of run that DC had the season before he was "sacked". Garner getting it right? what is it he's getting right? Football is a results business, and you either win games or you lose them. I think we will lose a lot more than we will win, starting saturday. I just cannot believe that people are willing to sacrifice a whole season so he can "get it right". And do modern players really need to "gel" after a month of training? I don't think there's much of a chance that BG will get it right, but at the same time, I don't think you can not give him the best part of a season to prove it. It's just how management works, generally, you get a season to prove yourself. If I ran the club, I wouldn't be very optimistic about my investment at this stage, but at the same time, I'd feel obliged to back my decision to appoint him. Yes, I suppose that is true, also you would look a bit stupid if you didn't back the man you had appointed
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Post by yetigas on Sept 9, 2020 19:48:50 GMT
Yes last season was poor by anyone's standards and everyone knows it from within the club top to bottom. However throughout the pandemic the slate has been wiped clean, our club is far more professional and the philosophy is sustainable and where the club should be heading... So far we have played the following games of the new season; Friendlies - a chance to build up fitness after the lockdown, experiment a little and see what happens. The result isn't the main factor here and results are pretty much a lottery League cup - first competitive game with half a new team, yes whilst the result want what we desire, there was glimpses of what BG is trying to do. Again many examples of lower League being victorious. MMC (Micky mouse cup) - chance to blood youngsters... SECOND competitive game after lockdown JCH, many people are saying why didn't we get someone in beforehand... What if we did then JCH decided to stay?!? Some potential signings (whilst JCH on board) may have said they needed a decision there and then or they would look elsewhere. We don't know what has gone on in the background. Yes I agree the results haven't been as expected, but in all honesty with the whole situat.on with the world which has affected football (and yes it has affected our opponents too) can anyone been surprised? As always there will be ups and downs to any season. But throughout lockdown as I said everything has been positive.... Let's give the guys a chance... Otherwise WHAT IS THE POINT At last, a post that shows good insight. Thank you Goose, there is still hope with supporters like you.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 10, 2020 12:46:59 GMT
Yes last season was poor by anyone's standards and everyone knows it from within the club top to bottom. However throughout the pandemic the slate has been wiped clean, our club is far more professional and the philosophy is sustainable and where the club should be heading... So far we have played the following games of the new season; Friendlies - a chance to build up fitness after the lockdown, experiment a little and see what happens. The result isn't the main factor here and results are pretty much a lottery League cup - first competitive game with half a new team, yes whilst the result want what we desire, there was glimpses of what BG is trying to do. Again many examples of lower League being victorious. MMC (Micky mouse cup) - chance to blood youngsters... SECOND competitive game after lockdown JCH, many people are saying why didn't we get someone in beforehand... What if we did then JCH decided to stay?!? Some potential signings (whilst JCH on board) may have said they needed a decision there and then or they would look elsewhere. We don't know what has gone on in the background. Yes I agree the results haven't been as expected, but in all honesty with the whole situation with the world which has affected football (and yes it has affected our opponents too) can anyone been surprised? As always there will be ups and downs to any season. But throughout lockdown as I said everything has been positive.... Let's give the guys a chance... Otherwise WHAT IS THE POINT We needed to get other strikers in even if he did stay, having 'lost' Nichols and Reilly. Even MK Dons are preparing to table a record-breaking bid for a striker having lost their best one more recently than ours
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