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Post by meader on Sept 21, 2020 16:52:36 GMT
Seems the corona virus situation is getting worse as there is a suggestion the level of infection be increased from 3 to 4. If this happens, then there is a possibility that all sport would be suspended again. This is not a wind up. This could happen very soon. We are in for a very tough autumn and winter.
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 21, 2020 16:57:02 GMT
It would seem the government won’t be happy until the economy along with people’s homes and local businesses are destroyed forever. Apologies if this causes offence, it’s not my intention, just an opinion , feel free to delete if necessary.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 21, 2020 17:01:03 GMT
It would seem the government won’t be happy until the economy along with people’s homes and local businesses are destroyed forever. Apologies if this causes offence, it’s not my intention, just an opinion , feel free to delete if necessary. Don't get me wrong, I don't think our Government have covered themselves in glory during all this, but I don't quite see how you could think they'd actually want the economy and business sector to tank? Surely that would make no sense at all. |
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 21, 2020 17:05:45 GMT
It would seem the government won’t be happy until the economy along with people’s homes and local businesses are destroyed forever. Apologies if this causes offence, it’s not my intention, just an opinion , feel free to delete if necessary. Whilst I understand your opinion is can't agree with it simply on the basis of what's in it for them to do as you suggest,I am sure they would be much happier implementing their manifesto . If we're going to be honest here too many people have chosen to ignore the advice,take personal responsibility and do the right thing ergo the 4 out 5 people who refuse to self isolate. If we have a significant minority of selfish idiots then we can't complain when it goes pear shaped. |
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Post by alanrg on Sept 21, 2020 17:10:28 GMT
The Chinese and the W H O r 2 blame 4 this mess biggest ever cover up
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 17:24:12 GMT
The Chinese and the W H O r 2 blame 4 this mess biggest ever cover up 😂😂😂 Christ Donald is a Gashead |
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 21, 2020 17:47:01 GMT
The lockdowns do nothing except cripple the economy, we simply can’t hide from this ‘virus’ forever. Lockdowns are not the answer , protect the elderly and the vulnerable, the rest of us have to get on with it. I have known many businesses go to the wall and I also know two people / families who have already lost their homes and living in a bed sit. Hiding away won’t solve anything as when the lockdown ends , this virus will still be here. Also one of the headlines made me chuckle , “ scientists predict next hotspot” every so say prediction has been way off the mark. Lockdowns will be where ever the government choose next , no evidence or reason needed , just look at Devon and Cornwall , all those people saying how much it will increase the infection rates and death tolls , due to half the country visiting the area during the hot spells over the bank holidays , no increases at all !! Overhyped and over exaggerated by our useless government ( whom i voted in by the way ) and the press.
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Post by cheamgas on Sept 21, 2020 18:14:53 GMT
Seems the corona virus situation is getting worse as there is a suggestion the level of infection be increased from 3 to 4. If this happens, then there is a possibility that all sport would be suspended again. This is not a wind up. This could happen very soon. We are in for a very tough autumn and winter. Need to get our points per game average up early this season as you never know when the season may end! |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 22, 2020 10:19:31 GMT
It would seem the government won’t be happy until the economy along with people’s homes and local businesses are destroyed forever. Apologies if this causes offence, it’s not my intention, just an opinion , feel free to delete if necessary. Why should this be deleted.? it's your opinion and you have the right to voice it. I don't necessary agree that the government wants our economy to crash and burn,or for our lives to be destroyed, but this is what is going to happen long term if this thing is not handled correctly. The death rate of C19 is around 1% and is currently the 8th lowest killer in this country behind heart disease, cancer... etc, yet we are heading to a 2nd lockdown because of it which could be catastrophic for the human race as we are heading into the biggest depression ever in history and that will take many..many more lives then C19 will. We need to be strong here and give the police the true power to in force the law on people to wear masks, social distancing and publish those that break the laws. People like the elderly and vulnerable need to be shielded and be advised to go back into lockdown while the rest of us get back to normal and let this C19 run its course.It's a harsh way but as I see it the only way until we find the vaccine for the Kung flu. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 11:07:45 GMT
It would seem the government won’t be happy until the economy along with people’s homes and local businesses are destroyed forever. Apologies if this causes offence, it’s not my intention, just an opinion , feel free to delete if necessary. Why should this be deleted.? it's your opinion and you have the right to voice it. I don't necessary agree that the government wants our economy to crash and burn,or for our lives to be destroyed, but this is what is going to happen long term if this thing is not handled correctly. The death rate of C19 is around 1% and is currently the 8th lowest killer in this country behind heart disease, cancer... etc, yet we are heading to a 2nd lockdown because of it which could be catastrophic for the human race as we are heading into the biggest depression ever in history and that will take many..many more lives then C19 will. We need to be strong here and give the police the true power to in force the law on people to wear masks, social distancing and publish those that break the laws. People like the elderly and vulnerable need to be shielded and be advised to go back into lockdown while the rest of us get back to normal and let this C19 run its course.It's a harsh way but as I see it the only way until we find the vaccine for the Kung flu. I think about 8% of the population are thought to have had C19 at some point so far although I suspect it is probably more. I wonder how beneficial it would be to shield the vulnerable for a while and allow it to spread among those who are statistically highly unlikely to become seriously ill? With some immunity then likely perhaps we would have some longer term strength as a nation? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 22, 2020 11:20:12 GMT
Why should this be deleted.? it's your opinion and you have the right to voice it. I don't necessary agree that the government wants our economy to crash and burn,or for our lives to be destroyed, but this is what is going to happen long term if this thing is not handled correctly. The death rate of C19 is around 1% and is currently the 8th lowest killer in this country behind heart disease, cancer... etc, yet we are heading to a 2nd lockdown because of it which could be catastrophic for the human race as we are heading into the biggest depression ever in history and that will take many..many more lives then C19 will. We need to be strong here and give the police the true power to in force the law on people to wear masks, social distancing and publish those that break the laws. People like the elderly and vulnerable need to be shielded and be advised to go back into lockdown while the rest of us get back to normal and let this C19 run its course.It's a harsh way but as I see it the only way until we find the vaccine for the Kung flu. I think about 8% of the population are thought to have had C19 at some point so far although I suspect it is probably more. I wonder how beneficial it would be to shield the vulnerable for a while and allow it to spread among those who are statistically highly unlikely to become seriously ill? With some immunity then likely perhaps we would have some longer term strength as a nation? I believe that Professor Whitty covered that yesterday, you can't keep the vulnerable in isolation and open up the rest. It will get to them eventually. Either we all do this or it won't work. |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 22, 2020 11:36:38 GMT
I think about 8% of the population are thought to have had C19 at some point so far although I suspect it is probably more. I wonder how beneficial it would be to shield the vulnerable for a while and allow it to spread among those who are statistically highly unlikely to become seriously ill? With some immunity then likely perhaps we would have some longer term strength as a nation? I believe that Professor Whitty covered that yesterday, you can't keep the vulnerable in isolation and open up the rest. It will get to them eventually. Either we all do this or it won't work. But as I said in my above post, the damage of us going into Lockdown every 5 months for a Virus that is not killing in huge numbers compared to the global impact of us going into lockdown cant be overlooked. How many people have died from cancer and other illnesses since the start of the year from not being able to get treatment due to the NHS being unable to treat them due stopping the spread of C19..? How many more suicides,family break ups,drinking/drug problems have been created due to people losing there jobs and now homes..? If we keep going into Lockdown then world and it's economy is f**ked for gernerations and maybe for the rest of our lives...its that big if we don't get this right. Each time we lockdown the C19 rates go down, then we open back up and they go back up.The virus is not going away so we some how have to learn to live with it and not just close everything down every few months. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 11:38:30 GMT
I think about 8% of the population are thought to have had C19 at some point so far although I suspect it is probably more. I wonder how beneficial it would be to shield the vulnerable for a while and allow it to spread among those who are statistically highly unlikely to become seriously ill? With some immunity then likely perhaps we would have some longer term strength as a nation? I believe that Professor Whitty covered that yesterday, you can't keep the vulnerable in isolation and open up the rest. It will get to them eventually. Either we all do this or it won't work. But for how long? There seems to be some optimism for a spring 2021 vaccine but what if it doesn’t happen? Can we keep having a series of lockdowns indefinitely and at what cost. All the lockdowns seem to do is buy time but at what cost, both financially and to our overall mental/physical health? Isn’t it soon time where we just have to accept a certain level of deaths and get on with life with sensible continuation of masks indoors and hand sanitizers everywhere etc.... |
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Post by baggins on Sept 22, 2020 11:44:04 GMT
I believe that Professor Whitty covered that yesterday, you can't keep the vulnerable in isolation and open up the rest. It will get to them eventually. Either we all do this or it won't work. But for how long? There seems to be some optimism for a spring 2021 vaccine but what if it doesn’t happen? Can we keeping having a series of lockdowns indefinitely and at what cost. All the lockdowns seem to do is buy time but at what cost, both financially and to our overall mental/physical health? Isn’t it soon time where we just have to accept a certain level of deaths and get on with life with sensible continuation of masks indoors and hand sanitizers everywhere etc.... Lockdown. Open up. Oh, it's still here. Lockdown again. Open up. Yep, still here. Lockdown. Would you believe it, it's still here. |
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 22, 2020 11:53:56 GMT
But for how long? There seems to be some optimism for a spring 2021 vaccine but what if it doesn’t happen? Can we keeping having a series of lockdowns indefinitely and at what cost. All the lockdowns seem to do is buy time but at what cost, both financially and to our overall mental/physical health? Isn’t it soon time where we just have to accept a certain level of deaths and get on with life with sensible continuation of masks indoors and hand sanitizers everywhere etc.... Lockdown. Open up. Oh, it's still here. Lockdown again. Open up. Yep, still here. Lockdown. Would you believe it, it's still here. Like I said in the other CV thread....definition of madness. Doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Even with a vaccine this thing ain’t going anywhere anytime soon. Extrapolate that into a future “normal” life how you see fit.... |
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Post by baggins on Sept 22, 2020 11:58:07 GMT
Lockdown. Open up. Oh, it's still here. Lockdown again. Open up. Yep, still here. Lockdown. Would you believe it, it's still here. Like I said in the other CV thread....definition of madness. Doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Even with a vaccine this thing ain’t going anywhere anytime soon. Extrapolate that into a future “normal” life how you see fit.... Ah, but it does go to bed after a hard day at 10pm. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Sept 22, 2020 12:18:52 GMT
So guys, let it run rampant and kill off a few old, sick and vulnerable people, take your own chances every time you get it (you probably won't be immune) but at least we can all go to wetherspoons? It that the idea?
Come on guys, surely we are better than this as a society?
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Post by baggins on Sept 22, 2020 12:25:09 GMT
So guys, let it run rampant and kill off a few old, sick and vulnerable people, take your own chances every time you get it (you probably won't be immune) but at least we can all go to wetherspoons? It that the idea? Come on guys, surely we are better than this as a society? We've been doing that since March. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 22, 2020 12:56:28 GMT
So guys, let it run rampant and kill off a few old, sick and vulnerable people, take your own chances every time you get it (you probably won't be immune) but at least we can all go to wetherspoons? It that the idea? Come on guys, surely we are better than this as a society? Yep. Alternative is the same outcome , higher suicide rates , deaths from illnesses not being picked up due to GPs and hospitals not carrying out routine checks and operations , lost jobs , lost houses , broken up families , higher drug and booze related issues due to mental health . The list is endless. The current way of life is one that I’m not interested in along with many , many others. If we carry on like this for too much longer the affects will be much worth than Covid. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Sept 22, 2020 13:00:48 GMT
So guys, let it run rampant and kill off a few old, sick and vulnerable people, take your own chances every time you get it (you probably won't be immune) but at least we can all go to wetherspoons? It that the idea? Come on guys, surely we are better than this as a society? Yep. Alternative is the same outcome , higher suicide rates , deaths from illnesses not being picked up due to GPs and hospitals not carrying out routine checks and operations , lost jobs , lost houses , broken up families , higher drug and booze related issues due to mental health . The list is endless. The current way of life is one that I’m not interested in along with many , many others. If we carry on like this for too much longer the affects will be much worth than Covid. What evidence do you have of that? I hear a lot of people saying it but not much behind it. Not much I can say otherwise as our attitudes are clearly so vastly different but at least provide some evidence for your claims? Where are these 50,000 suicides? Where is the mortality trajectory for all these missed routine ops? I understand the quality of life point but I cant get my head around your willingness to sacrifice. |
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