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Post by bridgwatergas on Sept 21, 2020 21:38:58 GMT
Just when you thought we would get someone with experience in, and perhaps a striker. We get a player with 5 league games under his belt and yet another midfielder. What is Garner thinking? That we need another midfielder to help implement the style of football he wants to play and help create chances for the strikers we have here. Or we listen to all the qualified managers on here and bring in another striker but he won't score goals as we dont create anything from midfield.
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 21, 2020 21:45:07 GMT
Just when you thought we would get someone with experience in, and perhaps a striker. We get a player with 5 league games under his belt and yet another midfielder. What is Garner thinking? That we need another midfielder to help implement the style of football he wants to play and help create chances for the strikers we have here. Or we listen to all the qualified managers on here and bring in another striker but he won't score goals as we dont create anything from midfield. and you think a lad with just 5 games experience will do that (regardless what his parent club are) We need someone with lot more experience in the midle IMHO
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Post by bridgwatergas on Sept 21, 2020 21:52:01 GMT
That we need another midfielder to help implement the style of football he wants to play and help create chances for the strikers we have here. Or we listen to all the qualified managers on here and bring in another striker but he won't score goals as we dont create anything from midfield. and you think a lad with just 5 games experience will do that (regardless what his parent club are) We need someone with lot more experience in the midle IMHO Who knows how he will perform. As stated in another thread there are plenty of experienced players in the squad that can help the younger players improve. Its always a risk with loan players Grant was at Plymouth last season and got rave reviews and they wanted to sign him but he choose us. This loan fits into what BG and WAQ want at the club and if thats the way they want to go I'm fully behind it as previously we just signed alot of journeyman or average players on over inflated wages.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 21:54:36 GMT
Give the lad a chance. Give garner a chance with the new squad. Its been a tough start against decent teams. Amazing backing from wael considering we must be losing money every week we play in empty grounds.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 21, 2020 22:40:45 GMT
Colkett was a good player for us, chipped in with some decent goals and assists, I remember him scoring a thumping volley to win us the game away at Oldham. Was disappointed when he left to join Swindon on loan in all honesty. Colkett was not a good player for us. He was a player with a lot of potential but during his time with us was largely ineffective and got an easy time by fans because of his reputation and where he was on loan from. Yes he went to Swindon, and what happened to them that season? They got relegated with too many young players trying to play decent football. Exactly what I can see happening here. Colkett was good imo. He scored 2 very important goals, away at Oldham and a last minute winner away at Northampton. I also remember away at MK Dons a brilliant piece of skill to set up a goal for Matty Taylor to score. He scored 3 goals in 15 games for us as a 19 year old Not bad at all.
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 21, 2020 22:53:16 GMT
Give the lad a chance. Give garner a chance with the new squad. Its been a tough start against decent teams. Amazing backing from wael considering we must be losing money every week we play in empty grounds. You say a tough start, but they are just Division One teams both of whom we beat last season, and every other team will be playing them, and some will beat them. If you say we wont win against the bigger clubs then what you are saying is we will be stuck in this league forever, because there are always bigger clubs in this league. Perhaps I'm not a true Rovers supporter? You know like the ones who accept mid table mediocraty with the odd cup run. Nah, I want a team that is going to be successful, win promotion get to the 4 th round of the FA Cup. None of which is going to happen this season, or probably next
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Sept 21, 2020 23:06:45 GMT
Welcome Luke In predictable gaschat style written off within hours of signing Don't think anyone's really writing him off, just saying he probably isn't what we needed. Bit like going out to buy a new car, only to come home with a brilliant mountain bike. Not necessarily a bad purchase, but if you were planning to drive around Europe, it wasn't really what you needed. We certainly don't have any plans to play in Europe any time soon, so a mountain bike will do us nicely. Welcome to Bristol Luke - cycling capital of the UK!
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Post by mrwarboys on Sept 22, 2020 1:01:40 GMT
Hailed as the next Frank Lampard, a big future hopefully starting with the gas.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 4:52:17 GMT
Opinion from a Chelsea supporter:-
"Always inconsistent at youth level I thought, could have a very good game one week and disappear the next. On his day a leader with a keen eye for goal, still a decent prospect."
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 22, 2020 6:37:11 GMT
Colkett was not a good player for us. He was a player with a lot of potential but during his time with us was largely ineffective and got an easy time by fans because of his reputation and where he was on loan from. Yes he went to Swindon, and what happened to them that season? They got relegated with too many young players trying to play decent football. Exactly what I can see happening here. I'd disagree, I think there's some revisionism going on here because I remember Colkett actually quite productive for us in terms of goals and assists for a midfielder. There were one or two games where he didn't turn up and I can see the complaints that he was a bit lightweight but on the whole he had a good loan spell with us for a young player IMO. Coventry had a lot of young players and tried to play decent football last season and went up. I don't think having a young squad in itself guarantees things either way. A tidy player, who scored some important goals for us. I enjoyed seeing Colkett play and was excited when he was in the starting 11 or on the bench. The problem is that I also agree with Eric too - he didn’t quite have the drive and I think that’s what DC saw about him and Boateng from the GPS and why he sent them back - as he mentioned a player or two who he hauled off at half time for not having ‘ran at all’ in the first half of a game we were underperforming in. I think this is reflected in the fact that he hasn’t really gone on to anything post Rovers. A shame because he certainly had the ability. That’s the tricky part of signing prem youth on loan. You don’t know what you’re going to get - they’re more likely to err to extremes - they either sink without trace or they rocket off. Inevitably, they return to their home club, if they’ve been a success they go out to a bigger club the next season, and if they’ve been a duffer they surprise like the LB from Swansea (can’t recall his name) or they disappear without trace never to be heard of again, perhaps popping up against us in a cup match against someone. I hope he can fill a gap in his half/full season with us but not one I’ll be getting excited over personally.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 22, 2020 6:56:55 GMT
It seems like BG is trying to bulk out the squad a bit. I’m slightly confused with this particular signing as I would say it’s a position we don’t need to fill currently, unless it’s someone with a bit of League One know-how.
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 22, 2020 7:00:02 GMT
It seems like BG is trying to bulk out the squad a bit. I’m slightly confused with this particular signing as I would say it’s a position we don’t need to fill currently, unless it’s someone with a bit of League One know-how. Listening to his interview he's a box to box player who likes to drive forward,score goals and not afraid to mix it up,i thought that's what folk on here were asking for ?
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 22, 2020 7:06:48 GMT
Thought the policy was to bring on our own players and sell them on? Where does that leave the likes of Hargreaves who at least shows some enthusiasm in the future? Fine if we are going down this loan route. but at least get some guys in who have a bit of nous for this division
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Sept 22, 2020 7:14:43 GMT
It seems like BG is trying to bulk out the squad a bit. I’m slightly confused with this particular signing as I would say it’s a position we don’t need to fill currently, unless it’s someone with a bit of League One know-how. Listening to his interview he's a box to box player who likes to drive forward,score goals and not afraid to mix it up,i thought that's what folk on here were asking for ? I agree mate, seems that he is likened to the role that Sheehan does... so can probably forget him now, those that still had some hope that he would sign. I am a 'rose tinter' which seems to be the phrase to describe those that remain optimistic and I am willing to give the lad a chance of course, that being said, I thought that we might have been in for someone that had some 'mens football' experience as most of the younger players say its very different to U23's The window is still open though and after every new signing BG indicates that we are after 1 or 2 so maybe that still the case
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Post by blueridge on Sept 22, 2020 7:17:46 GMT
That we need another midfielder to help implement the style of football he wants to play and help create chances for the strikers we have here. Or we listen to all the qualified managers on here and bring in another striker but he won't score goals as we dont create anything from midfield. and you think a lad with just 5 games experience will do that (regardless what his parent club are) We need someone with lot more experience in the midle IMHO There’s a guy called Abu Ogogo looking for a club - he won’t cost much, is experienced at this level, a combative team player, just the sort of player I feel we’re looking for at the moment. Really don’t understand this latest signing - no added value IMO - haven’t we already got a similarly experienced player on the books called Barrett? Totally bizarre!!
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Sept 22, 2020 7:21:29 GMT
Is it just me that gets really confused with the numbering thing nowadays? #1 and #9 I get, but anything else is a mystery to me! #6 = defensive midfielder #8 = box-to-box #10 = creative/attacking midfielder Basically! I always thought 6 was centre back, 4 was defensive midfielder, 8 was attacking centre midfielder and 10 was striker? Has the consensus changed because less teams play 442?
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Sept 22, 2020 7:28:44 GMT
Here is a thing from a website which may help but also may not:
1– Goalkeeper 2– Right Fullback 3– Left Fullback 4– Center Back 5– Center Back (or Sweeper, if used) 6– Defending/Holding Midfielder 7– Right Midfielder/Winger 8– Central/Box-to-Box Midfielder 9– Striker 10– Attacking Midfielder/Playmaker 11– Left Midfielder/Wingers
Great input... probably not.
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 22, 2020 7:30:49 GMT
Listening to his interview he's a box to box player who likes to drive forward,score goals and not afraid to mix it up,i thought that's what folk on here were asking for ? I agree mate, seems that he is likened to the role that Sheehan does... so can probably forget him now, those that still had some hope that he would sign. I am a 'rose tinter' which seems to be the phrase to describe those that remain optimistic and I am willing to give the lad a chance of course, that being said, I thought that we might have been in for someone that had some 'mens football' experience as most of the younger players say its very different to U23's The window is still open though and after every new signing BG indicates that we are after 1 or 2 so maybe that still the case I agree,i refuse to be down hearted as that way leads to stress, I think we have signed some good talent the Manager has to blend them into a winning team,I have a feeling they just need to get a win under their belt to kick on.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 22, 2020 7:31:08 GMT
Think it was colkett who said in a interview when he had his first training session with us that it surprised him that he had to head the ball. Apparently the Chelsea development squads dont allow heading in training. Handy skills to have in this division
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 22, 2020 7:51:17 GMT
Think it was colkett who said in a interview when he had his first training session with us that it surprised him that he had to head the ball. Apparently the Chelsea development squads dont allow heading in training. Handy skills to have in this division That’s outrageous. I can believe it though.
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