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Post by LJG on Sept 22, 2020 8:06:00 GMT
Colkett was a good player for us, chipped in with some decent goals and assists, I remember him scoring a thumping volley to win us the game away at Oldham. Was disappointed when he left to join Swindon on loan in all honesty. Colkett was not a good player for us. He was a player with a lot of potential but during his time with us was largely ineffective and got an easy time by fans because of his reputation and where he was on loan from. Yes he went to Swindon, and what happened to them that season? They got relegated with too many young players trying to play decent football. Exactly what I can see happening here. Another example of Horfield Derangement Syndrome. Colkett was perfectly good for us. 3 goals from 15 in midfield and like Gastsfari says a couple of important ones. He must not have looked "naturally gifted" enough.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 22, 2020 8:36:08 GMT
We've got a few experienced midfielders - Upson, Rodman etc. From Saturday, what I thought we needed was a bit of energy in the middle, someone who could carry the ball and break the lines.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Sept 22, 2020 8:46:18 GMT
#6 = defensive midfielder #8 = box-to-box #10 = creative/attacking midfielder Basically! I always thought 6 was centre back, 4 was defensive midfielder, 8 was attacking centre midfielder and 10 was striker? Has the consensus changed because less teams play 442? Pretty much. I.e Upson is our #6 (defensive mid), Westbrooke is our #8 (box-to-box CM) & JML is our #10 (attacking mid).
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Post by wilmslowgas on Sept 22, 2020 9:15:04 GMT
Welcome to the Gas, Luke. I hope the players do not introduce you to this forum. Good luck.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 22, 2020 9:56:32 GMT
Yep. Theres a new wind blowing in where You will see people aren't allowed to criticise. So it will be nice and fluffy in the future.players will only be world beaters and only have good games. Bad results will never be talked about. New stadiums will be highlighted along the 30000 crowds we will get.
Patience is a virtue on here as the future can evolve nice and slow.oh and the only thing that will cause upset is if you call us bristol.
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Post by reason on Sept 22, 2020 10:08:11 GMT
and you think a lad with just 5 games experience will do that (regardless what his parent club are) We need someone with lot more experience in the midle IMHO There’s a guy called Abu Ogogo looking for a club - he won’t cost much, is experienced at this level, a combative team player, just the sort of player I feel we’re looking for at the moment. Really don’t understand this latest signing - no added value IMO - haven’t we already got a similarly experienced player on the books called Barrett? Totally bizarre!! Abu is not part of the squad, I guess a decision was made on keeping either him or Upson, and it does not matter what we think, there would be argument for both, but a decsision had to me made based on both the salary cap and the new squad list rules (this season we are limited to 22 players, which will be reduced to 20 next season - 8 of which must be 'home grown' players). Under 21 players do not count towards that squad number, so we can have as many as we want (within the salary cap, I think). Josh Barrett is a differnet type of player, and regardless, not yet fully fit after recovering from an injury. As of last week I bellieve it was planned for him to train with, and play for the U-23s. Although, I would agree, that we have Cam Hargreaves. We have been fortunate enough that Wael has allowed Ben to discount two players, who remain employees and thus are being paid, but not counting towards our playing budget. I do not think it bizarre, as it will be easier to get this sort of player on loan, rather than agreeing a fee for say, Sheehan from Newport. I do not think he was our main target though, and I believe we are still pursuing an additional striker - but aren't we all!? UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 10:11:34 GMT
Give the lad a chance. Give garner a chance with the new squad. Its been a tough start against decent teams. Amazing backing from wael considering we must be losing money every week we play in empty grounds. You say a tough start, but they are just Division One teams both of whom we beat last season, and every other team will be playing them, and some will beat them. If you say we wont win against the bigger clubs then what you are saying is we will be stuck in this league forever, because there are always bigger clubs in this league. Perhaps I'm not a true Rovers supporter? You know like the ones who accept mid table mediocraty with the odd cup run. Nah, I want a team that is going to be successful, win promotion get to the 4 th round of the FA Cup. None of which is going to happen this season, or probably next What im saying is we have an almost totally new young team and despite what happened last season garner and the team need a fair number of matches to judge them. Regarding the other stuff i think right now its all about trying to stay in existence during this virus crisis.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 22, 2020 10:19:45 GMT
Colkett was not a good player for us. He was a player with a lot of potential but during his time with us was largely ineffective and got an easy time by fans because of his reputation and where he was on loan from. Yes he went to Swindon, and what happened to them that season? They got relegated with too many young players trying to play decent football. Exactly what I can see happening here. Another example of Horfield Derangement Syndrome. Colkett was perfectly good for us. 3 goals from 15 in midfield and like Gastsfari says a couple of important ones. He must not have looked "naturally gifted" enough. Not sure of the need for "Horfield derangement syndrome". I will accept your opinion without being an arse. I don't think he was good or bad. He was too much of a passenger for me. He had moments and potential but wasn't involved enough in the 90 minutes for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 10:20:42 GMT
and you think a lad with just 5 games experience will do that (regardless what his parent club are) We need someone with lot more experience in the midle IMHO There’s a guy called Abu Ogogo looking for a club - he won’t cost much, is experienced at this level, a combative team player, just the sort of player I feel we’re looking for at the moment. Really don’t understand this latest signing - no added value IMO - haven’t we already got a similarly experienced player on the books called Barrett? Totally bizarre!! It’s hard to figure out what the strategy is when you just look at our signings in isolation. We lack a goal scorer and are top heavy with defenders and lightweight midfielders. We’ve got some decent looking youth players coming through too. The one consistent observation people have made from our two opening games is that we need a tough tackling ball winning midfielder with a bit of experience at this level....so Garner reacts by getting in a young loanee from a premiership club. Feels a bit like throwing **** at a wall and seeing what sticks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 10:34:15 GMT
Welcome to the Gas, Luke. I hope the players do not introduce you to this forum. Good luck. I don't think they read it, although they have been known to ask those who do, what is being said about certain things.
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Post by LJG on Sept 22, 2020 11:00:28 GMT
Another example of Horfield Derangement Syndrome. Colkett was perfectly good for us. 3 goals from 15 in midfield and like Gastsfari says a couple of important ones. He must not have looked "naturally gifted" enough. Not sure of the need for "Horfield derangement syndrome". I will accept your opinion without being an arse. I don't think he was good or bad. He was too much of a passenger for me. He had moments and potential but wasn't involved enough in the 90 minutes for me. Get over yourself. It's clearly a joke used to describe the fact that abject duds (Nichols and Garner for example) are backed to the hilt in the face of all the evidence whereas those who've done a decent shift (O'Toole, Gaffney, Reilly, Telford, Jakubiak, Coughlan for example) are completely lambasted.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 22, 2020 14:21:53 GMT
Not sure of the need for "Horfield derangement syndrome". I will accept your opinion without being an arse. I don't think he was good or bad. He was too much of a passenger for me. He had moments and potential but wasn't involved enough in the 90 minutes for me. Get over yourself. It's clearly a joke used to describe the fact that abject duds (Nichols and Garner for example) are backed to the hilt in the face of all the evidence whereas those who've done a decent shift (O'Toole, Gaffney, Reilly, Telford, Jakubiak, Coughlan for example) are completely lambasted. It's not about getting over myself, it's about you treating people with respect.
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Post by LJG on Sept 22, 2020 14:54:59 GMT
Get over yourself. It's clearly a joke used to describe the fact that abject duds (Nichols and Garner for example) are backed to the hilt in the face of all the evidence whereas those who've done a decent shift (O'Toole, Gaffney, Reilly, Telford, Jakubiak, Coughlan for example) are completely lambasted. It's not about getting over myself, it's about you treating people with respect. Making a light-hearted joke isn't treating anybody with disrespect. Get over yourself.
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Post by james246 on Sept 22, 2020 15:11:41 GMT
I always thought 6 was centre back, 4 was defensive midfielder, 8 was attacking centre midfielder and 10 was striker? Has the consensus changed because less teams play 442? Pretty much. I.e Upson is our #6 (defensive mid), Westbrooke is our #8 (box-to-box CM) & JML is our #10 (attacking mid). Forget the numbers we need two proper strikers (Ayunga and Hanlan) on the field together at the same time. The formation we are using might work well for Table Top Subbuteo football but does work in real games, our management need to get their heads out of Einstein's backside, open their eyes and see what is happening in front of them on match day. The three senior games so far have followed the same pattern, our opponents work us out and then take over the game, meanwhile we never look like scoring from open play.
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Post by wertongas on Sept 22, 2020 15:11:49 GMT
Rather we used Ogogo and played Hargreaves more , those two would toughen up the midfield
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 15:37:01 GMT
People calling for ogogo back must be watching a different game to me? We’ve created 3/4 chances over 3 games we need creativity in midfield not another defensive midfielder with limited passing ability. You can have all the bite in midfield you want but if they don’t create chances then what’s the point. ogogo is not the answer at all
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 22, 2020 15:54:04 GMT
It seems like BG is trying to bulk out the squad a bit. I’m slightly confused with this particular signing as I would say it’s a position we don’t need to fill currently, unless it’s someone with a bit of League One know-how. Listening to his interview he's a box to box player who likes to drive forward,score goals and not afraid to mix it up,i thought that's what folk on here were asking for ? Well I could make a video and say I was the best Locksmith in Britain and there was no lock I could not open. Doesn't mean its true (it is close though)
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 22, 2020 15:57:23 GMT
Yep. Theres a new wind blowing in where You will see people aren't allowed to criticise. So it will be nice and fluffy in the future.players will only be world beaters and only have good games. Bad results will never be talked about. New stadiums will be highlighted along the 30000 crowds we will get. Patience is a virtue on here as the future can evolve nice and slow.oh and the only thing that will cause upset is if you call us bristol. Hmmm lets call it ... ummmm how about Distinction Rebellion? or Footballers positions matter? or Antifart?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 16:02:24 GMT
Listening to his interview he's a box to box player who likes to drive forward,score goals and not afraid to mix it up,i thought that's what folk on here were asking for ? Well I could make a video and say I was the best Locksmith in Britain and there was no lock I could not open. Doesn't mean its true (it is close though) Can you open a 'Chastity Belt' ? - Just wondered!
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Post by pirate on Sept 22, 2020 16:03:26 GMT
According to Frosty in the Post: "McCormick will now provide back-up and competition to first-choice pairing Josh Grant and Zain Westbrooke with the potential theory that if he can fulfil the No8 role, it will allow the latter to become more of a playmaker."
Westbrooke isn't a playmaker IMHO and looked lost in a role further forward on Saturday.
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