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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2014 17:27:00 GMT
I believe Chester couldn't believe their luck when Della-Verde was taken off. Never do this unless you are forced to. So basically you're saying top managers who have taken star players off after being 2-0 up all go it wrong? I've seen the likes of Sir Alex, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc they eve all done it over the years and I guess everyone of them was a mistake? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:27:06 GMT
Barnet do it all the time with a player called Lee Cook. Great player but sometimes he struggles to play two games in a week, hence why they take him off and rest him.
They don't give away two goal leads all the time!
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Post by mjhgas on Nov 22, 2014 17:27:13 GMT
Has Clarke blamed the fans for the latest debacle or the players & himself?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2014 17:28:22 GMT
Has Clarke blamed the fans for the latest debacle or the players & himself? Listen to his interview and you'll know. |
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Post by Congas on Nov 22, 2014 17:28:46 GMT
At the end of the day, Clarke taking off LDV didn't make us concede two goals. The reason it's annoying and it's a mistake is you feel with LDV on we may have got a third, but realistically who expected the defence to capitulate the way they did. Exactly this.
It narrowed our attack options for sure, but in terms of defending, and then conceding two like they did, I just cant see the connection. LDV is an attacking player, not one of the defensive four/five.
Players like that make the opposition lay off pushing up too much for fear of letting in another goal. He went off, they pushed up and we got jittery. |
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Post by Gas4life!!! on Nov 22, 2014 17:29:15 GMT
Nothing said about in interview about decision to take ldv off?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2014 17:30:15 GMT
Nothing said about in interview about decision to take ldv off? Nope, poor journalism. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:31:10 GMT
I believe Chester couldn't believe their luck when Della-Verde was taken off. Never do this unless you are forced to. So basically you're saying top managers who have taken star players off after being 2-0 up all go it wrong? I've seen the likes of Sir Alex, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc they eve all done it over the years and I guess everyone of them was a mistake? Are you for real? Talk about misquote the guy! It was a game specific quote not a general one. Go forbid you miss a chance to jump down somebodies throat! Grow up boy. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2014 17:32:02 GMT
So basically you're saying top managers who have taken star players off after being 2-0 up all go it wrong? I've seen the likes of Sir Alex, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc they eve all done it over the years and I guess everyone of them was a mistake? Are you for real? Talk about misquote the guy! It was a game specific quote not a general one. Go forbid you miss a chance to jump down somebodies throat! Grow up boy. How was it game specific? He said "NEVER". |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:35:14 GMT
Anyone at the game confirm or deny it as specifically Gosling's defensive errors that caused both goals as suggested here?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:36:32 GMT
Look at it another way. We come to Chester today without LDV because he is injured. The match is reduced to a 25 minute match. Would you expect us to lose 2-0 because one player is out? What people are effectively saying are we are a one man team and Gosling is useless. Hello, planet earth calling. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:36:32 GMT
Are you for real? Talk about misquote the guy! It was a game specific quote not a general one. Go forbid you miss a chance to jump down somebodies throat! Grow up boy. How was it game specific? He said "NEVER". because this is the conference you troll. Those managers you stated have a variety of game changers on the bench! DC was naively thinking of tuesday. I dont post much on either forum but read a lot. You my son have far too much time on your hands, go out and get laid. I know people who have quit this forum because of you, grow up and try to join in instead of jumping on everything. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2014 17:39:54 GMT
How was it game specific? He said "NEVER". because this is the conference you troll. Those managers you stated have a variety of game changers on the bench! DC was naively thinking of tuesday. I dont post much on either forum but read a lot. You my son have far too much time on your hands, go out and get laid. I know people who have quit this forum because of you, grow up and try to join in instead of jumping on everything. I'm not a troll. So what if its the conference? We are one of the favourites for the conference. I could understand if it was the other way round and we were the underdog. Grow up? That is quite ironic after your post there! |
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Post by dragonfly on Nov 22, 2014 17:43:49 GMT
I believe Chester couldn't believe their luck when Della-Verde was taken off. Never do this unless you are forced to. So basically you're saying top managers who have taken star players off after being 2-0 up all go it wrong? I've seen the likes of Sir Alex, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc they eve all done it over the years and I guess everyone of them was a mistake? You take away your main attacking threat and you risk giving the initiative to the opposition. 1970 World Cup semi ? England v W. Germany in Mexico with England leading 2-0 and Alf Ramsay took Bobby Charlton off, The Germans rubbed their hands with delight and went on to win. Our main threat according to the Germans had been extinguished. Why risk weakening your position if you don't need to? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:45:33 GMT
Haha another one giving up bye bye forum. I have only been a member for a couple of months but seen enough to realise why people like 79 left and even the stripe. Club legend? More like troll legend
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2014 17:48:11 GMT
So basically you're saying top managers who have taken star players off after being 2-0 up all go it wrong? I've seen the likes of Sir Alex, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc they eve all done it over the years and I guess everyone of them was a mistake? You take away your main attacking threat and you risk giving the initiative to the opposition. 1970 World Cup semi ? England v W. Germany in Mexico with England leading 2-0 and Alf Ramsay took Bobby Charlton off, The Germans rubbed their hands with delight and went on to win. Our main threat according to the Germans had been extinguished. Why risk weakening your position if you don't need to? But yes you are going to remember the ones where it has been costly. Where the teams have held on or gone onto win further they won't be remembered. In a way a manager can only lose when they are winning and make a change and only win when they are behind a make a change. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2014 17:49:05 GMT
Haha another one giving up bye bye forum. I have only been a member for a couple of months but seen enough to realise why people like 79 left and even the stripe. Club legend? More like troll legend Thats your prerogative. Sorry you feel that way but I don't really get why you do? I thought z forum was for opinions and debates? We're not always going to agree. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:02:12 GMT
Haha another one giving up bye bye forum. I have only been a member for a couple of months but seen enough to realise why people like 79 left and even the stripe. Club legend? More like troll legend the stripes still here.... you'll never get rid of the stripe.... |
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Post by Fetch on Nov 22, 2014 18:02:45 GMT
Take it to private messages if you're going to argue.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 22, 2014 18:03:18 GMT
Haha another one giving up bye bye forum. I have only been a member for a couple of months but seen enough to realise why people like 79 left and even the stripe. Club legend? More like troll legend It's not just the forums it's the culture running right through the club. I've just heard Darrell on the radio slating fans who criticise by making the point that "this is the conference" and say that with our resources we should be doing better. He said "that's rubbish". Whether or not you believe the league we are in is relevant I don't think it's wise for a manager to hit out wildly at fans like that. Lashing out without thinking might be a symptom of the insecurity which everyone associated with the club feels. |
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