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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 15:23:33 GMT
Just on a call, give me some time and you'll have it  yes agree it’s a great list and the % of points won would help to differentiate. What would also really help for comparison is a loss rate. What % of total games have they lost? Think we have had our fill of defeats for a while With the time i have available i might only be able to give you ppm and win lose draw % is that ok? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 15:23:33 GMT
Daniel Stendel now 12/1 at Skybet Is that because he was mentioned here?! |
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Post by alanrg on Nov 16, 2020 15:25:39 GMT
No Sam Frost mentioned it on his Q&A
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 15:36:57 GMT
Brilliant work in compiling that list, goodnightirene, but would a fairer comparison of management ability be shown by percentage of points won from points available? After all, a draw is worth a point. Not quite what you asked for but this is a bit more detail (used weighted averages for the points per match (ppm)). Sorted in order of PPM largest to smallest with BG at the top of the list. | Manager | Matches | W | D | L | PPM | Win Rate | Draw Rate | Loss Rate | | Ben Garner | 32 | 6 | 8 | 18 | 0.81 | 19% | 25% | 56% | | Danny Cowley | 268 | 132 | 67 | 69 | 1.73 | 49% | 25% | 26% | | Daniel Stendel | 324 | 166 | 61 | 97 | 1.72 | 51% | 19% | 30% | | Ryan Lowe | 141 | 65 | 34 | 42 | 1.63 | 46% | 24% | 30% | | Graham Alexander | 363 | 161 | 88 | 114 | 1.57 | 44% | 24% | 31% | | Paul Cook | 583 | 253 | 151 | 179 | 1.56 | 43% | 26% | 31% | | Michael Flynn | 197 | 86 | 44 | 67 | 1.53 | 44% | 22% | 34% | | Paul Tisdale | 584 | 220 | 135 | 229 | 1.42 | 38% | 23% | 39% | | Garry Monk | 273 | 105 | 65 | 103 | 1.39 | 38% | 24% | 38% | | Gary Bowyer | 352 | 125 | 110 | 117 | 1.38 | 36% | 31% | 33% | | Steve Cotterill | 433 | 159 | 117 | 157 | 1.38 | 37% | 27% | 36% | | Sol Campbell | 53 | 13 | 15 | 25 | 1.02 | 25% | 28% | 47% |
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Post by cockergas on Nov 16, 2020 15:37:23 GMT
yes agree it’s a great list and the % of points won would help to differentiate. What would also really help for comparison is a loss rate. What % of total games have they lost? Think we have had our fill of defeats for a while With the time i have available i might only be able to give you ppm and win lose draw % is that ok? spot on. And many thanks |
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 16, 2020 15:40:16 GMT
What about Daniel Stendel did well at Barnsley and they played good football Good shout that. Wonder what he’s up to? |
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Post by oasisgas on Nov 16, 2020 15:49:06 GMT
No Sam Frost mentioned it on his Q&A Does seem weird that he has appeared on the list whilst not being on there even as a long shot before. Sam mentioned that he was now on the market so its not like Sam suggested him and then fans started putting money on him. Does anyone on here know how new names get added??? Does the bookies just think of a new name and then add them to the current market or would it have been because somebody asked what his odds were and put money on him?? |
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Post by pirate on Nov 16, 2020 15:53:14 GMT
Would be quite pleased with Stendel.
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Post by onedaygas83 on Nov 16, 2020 15:55:48 GMT
Has the coach BG brought in recently with Chelsea links left too?
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Post by alanrg on Nov 16, 2020 16:01:35 GMT
Stendel is back in Germany Jack Mesure is still at the club
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Post by oasisgas on Nov 16, 2020 16:05:00 GMT
Would be quite pleased with Stendel. Heard that his football is very attacking mate and is one of the best coaches in the game for getting his team to Press. Any insight to him?? |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Nov 16, 2020 16:07:50 GMT
No Sam Frost mentioned it on his Q&A Does seem weird that he has appeared on the list whilst not being on there even as a long shot before. Sam mentioned that he was now on the market so its not like Sam suggested him and then fans started putting money on him. Does anyone on here know how new names get added??? Does the bookies just think of a new name and then add them to the current market or would it have been because somebody asked what his odds were and put money on him?? You just email them and they will look into it and give you a price. You can get anyone within reason on there. |
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Post by TugPhase on Nov 16, 2020 16:11:01 GMT
Would be quite pleased with Stendel. Heard that his football is very attacking mate and is one of the best coaches in the game for getting his team to Press. Any insight to him?? I've heard that he is very attack-minded and is one of the best around for getting his team to press. |
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Post by c4h10 on Nov 16, 2020 16:18:38 GMT
Thanks for taking the time to make your updated list goodnightirene, certainly shows Daniel Stendel in a good light.
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Post by pirate on Nov 16, 2020 19:01:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 19:14:05 GMT
No Sam Frost mentioned it on his Q&A Does seem weird that he has appeared on the list whilst not being on there even as a long shot before. Sam mentioned that he was now on the market so its not like Sam suggested him and then fans started putting money on him. Does anyone on here know how new names get added??? Does the bookies just think of a new name and then add them to the current market or would it have been because somebody asked what his odds were and put money on him?? For the “serious” prospects (anyone around 12-1) they will either have taken a small bet or seen the name linked somewhere reasonably credible I would have thought (local press, sports media, social media etc). The manager market is all about inside info so it doesn’t take much money to move the odds about. Then they pad the list out with people connected to the club (ex players/managers) and a mix of usual names for the division and people who appeared in previous markets (Robbie Fowler Etc) presumably to silk a quid or two from a mug. |
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Post by bodies on Nov 16, 2020 19:26:36 GMT
Tommy Widdrington is 1/3
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Post by ChiefStateGAS on Nov 16, 2020 20:00:15 GMT
Tisdale might be the one that fits Wael's vision of developing youth. He has a good L2 record, maybe it just wasn't the right time or club for him to have been successful at L1 level in the past.
Personally I want Cook or Stendel. Appointing either of them would show ambition. I'd have decent faith in one of those two getting us up to the championship within 3-4 years.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 16, 2020 20:50:26 GMT
Tisdale now 5/2 2nd fave (TW 4/7)
Flynn out to 4/1.
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Post by pirate on Nov 16, 2020 21:00:58 GMT
Tisdale now 5/2 2nd fave (TW 4/7) Flynn out to 4/1. I had a tenner on Tis at 20/1. |
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