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Post by pirate on Nov 16, 2020 13:51:51 GMT
Bit of digging around on the managers mentioned on social media and collated a table if anyone was interested Manager | Matches | W | D | L | Win Rate | Ben Garner | 32 | 6 | 8 | 18 | 19% | Danny Cowley | 268 | 132 | 67 | 69 | 49% | Graham Alexander | 363 | 161 | 88 | 114 | 44% | Michael Flynn | 197 | 86 | 44 | 67 | 44% | Paul Cook | 583 | 253 | 151 | 179 | 43% | Garry Monk | 273 | 105 | 65 | 103 | 38% | Paul Tisdale | 584 | 220 | 135 | 229 | 38% | Steve Cotterill | 433 | 159 | 117 | 157 | 37% | Gary Bowyer | 352 | 125 | 110 | 117 | 36% | Sol Campbell | 53 | 13 | 15 | 25 | 25% |
Very high level here so take into consideration I have not included the leagues or opponents in the cup etc My thinking was based on what the managers achieved over their matches with what ever players they had in their squads and against what ever opponents they came up against in any competition. Lee Bowyer?! Why on earth would he leave Charlton to join us?! (not a dig at you by the way, just those apparently suggesting him?!) Back to the stats.... how on earth will we ever improve on Garner.... Garner's stats make the rest of them look like Guardiola! Where was Lee Bowyer mentioned?
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Post by RD on Nov 16, 2020 13:53:52 GMT
Lee Bowyer?! Why on earth would he leave Charlton to join us?! (not a dig at you by the way, just those apparently suggesting him?!) Back to the stats.... how on earth will we ever improve on Garner.... Garner's stats make the rest of them look like Guardiola! Where was Lee Bowyer mentioned? Oops! That'll teach me to skimread! Thanks pirate
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 13:59:57 GMT
Bit of digging around on the managers mentioned on social media and collated a table if anyone was interested Manager | Matches | W | D | L | Win Rate | Ben Garner | 32 | 6 | 8 | 18 | 19% | Danny Cowley | 268 | 132 | 67 | 69 | 49% | Graham Alexander | 363 | 161 | 88 | 114 | 44% | Michael Flynn | 197 | 86 | 44 | 67 | 44% | Paul Cook | 583 | 253 | 151 | 179 | 43% | Garry Monk | 273 | 105 | 65 | 103 | 38% | Paul Tisdale | 584 | 220 | 135 | 229 | 38% | Steve Cotterill | 433 | 159 | 117 | 157 | 37% | Gary Bowyer | 352 | 125 | 110 | 117 | 36% | Sol Campbell | 53 | 13 | 15 | 25 | 25% |
Very high level here so take into consideration I have not included the leagues or opponents in the cup etc My thinking was based on what the managers achieved over their matches with what ever players they had in their squads and against what ever opponents they came up against in any competition. Lee Bowyer?! Why on earth would he leave Charlton to join us?! (not a dig at you by the way, just those apparently suggesting him?!) Back to the stats.... how on earth will we ever improve on Garner.... Garner's stats make the rest of them look like Guardiola! Above is Gary Bowyer buddy... but yeah, Garner stats really do hit home and I was rather a fan of him - i have no defence for the sacking
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 14:05:17 GMT
Bit of digging around on the managers mentioned on social media and collated a table if anyone was interested Manager | Matches | W | D | L | Win Rate | Ben Garner | 32 | 6 | 8 | 18 | 19% | Danny Cowley | 268 | 132 | 67 | 69 | 49% | Graham Alexander | 363 | 161 | 88 | 114 | 44% | Michael Flynn | 197 | 86 | 44 | 67 | 44% | Paul Cook | 583 | 253 | 151 | 179 | 43% | Garry Monk | 273 | 105 | 65 | 103 | 38% | Paul Tisdale | 584 | 220 | 135 | 229 | 38% | Steve Cotterill | 433 | 159 | 117 | 157 | 37% | Gary Bowyer | 352 | 125 | 110 | 117 | 36% | Sol Campbell | 53 | 13 | 15 | 25 | 25% |
Very high level here so take into consideration I have not included the leagues or opponents in the cup etc My thinking was based on what the managers achieved over their matches with what ever players they had in their squads and against what ever opponents they came up against in any competition. Lee Bowyer?! Why on earth would he leave Charlton to join us?! (not a dig at you by the way, just those apparently suggesting him?!) Back to the stats.... how on earth will we ever improve on Garner.... Garner's stats make the rest of them look like Guardiola! Manager | Matches | W | D | L | Win Rate | Pep Guardiola | 653 | 484 | 91 | 78 | 74% |
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Post by alanrg on Nov 16, 2020 14:07:38 GMT
What about Daniel Stendel did well at Barnsley and they played good football
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Post by spiess1 on Nov 16, 2020 14:11:10 GMT
Manager Matches W D L Win Rate Pep Guardiola 653 484 91 78 74%
OK....but would let us down in latter stages of Champions League, I fear.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 14:11:20 GMT
What about Daniel Stendel did well at Barnsley and they played good football Manager | Matches | W | D | L | Win Rate | Daniel Stendel | 324 | 166 | 61 | 97 | 51% |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 16, 2020 14:12:15 GMT
Sound very similar to me, I've had a fiver on Tisdale too at 16/1. That’ll be a waste of money GGMI I can tell you that. As somebody else said above, why?
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 14:16:58 GMT
Added Plymouth manager as he was mentioned on the Q&A Manager | Matches | W | D | L | Win Rate | Ryan Lowe | 141 | 65 | 34 | 42 | 46% |
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 16, 2020 14:22:31 GMT
I’m surprised it’s not been mentioned but Gareth Ainsworth would be worth considering. Whilst the football not the best perhaps, that may be determined by the circumstances at Wycombe. He can build a squad, get the very best out of what he’s got and gives youth a chance. He has very good man-management skills and would fit in well with us being underdogs in the area. Would he come? No idea but Wael is not a hire and fire owner and I’m sure they would get on. He’s a pretty practical, down to earth manager who knows what he has to do to get wins. I think he’d be very good. Worth a punt. UTG!
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Post by pirate on Nov 16, 2020 14:25:23 GMT
Added Plymouth manager as he was mentioned on the Q&A Manager | Matches | W | D | L | Win Rate | Ryan Lowe | 141 | 65 | 34 | 42 | 46% |
No chance he would leave Plymouth for us.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 14:29:28 GMT
Added Plymouth manager as he was mentioned on the Q&A Manager | Matches | W | D | L | Win Rate | Ryan Lowe | 141 | 65 | 34 | 42 | 46% |
No chance he would leave Plymouth for us. Probs the same for Flynn and Newport although I'm sure if he did you would like to see him come with Tristan in Jan
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Nov 16, 2020 14:35:29 GMT
Daniel Stendel for me.
Lovely attacking football and it says a lot when both Barnsley and Hearts fans still love him even when he got sacked from both jobs.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 16, 2020 14:38:08 GMT
No chance he would leave Plymouth for us. Probs the same for Flynn and Newport although I'm sure if he did you would like to see him come with Tristan in Jan BIG difference between Newport and Plymouth.
Newport are a fairly small club. They have a poor ground and an awful pitch. Flynn has very limited resources and a small budget. Their average crowds for past past couple of years have been 3.5k.
Plymouth would probably consider themselves a bigger club than us. They have a nice stadium, good pitch and average crowds of 10k.
There's more chance of Paul Cook being our next manager than Ryan Lowe in my opinion. I think Flynn could be persuaded if we were willing to pay the compensation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 14:53:02 GMT
If Cook is viewed by the board as the likely best fit they should just get on and approach him ASAP. If he does have loftier ambitions than league one as many expect then fair enough, at least we know where we stand and can move on to the other names mentioned who will probably need to go through a full recruitment exercise. You never know he might be interested and ready to start!
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Post by c4h10 on Nov 16, 2020 14:54:55 GMT
Brilliant work in compiling that list, goodnightirene, but would a fairer comparison of management ability be shown by percentage of points won from points available? After all, a draw is worth a point.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 14:59:24 GMT
Brilliant work in compiling that list, goodnightirene, but would a fairer comparison of management ability be shown by percentage of points won from points available? After all, a draw is worth a point. Just on a call, give me some time and you'll have it
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Post by cockergas on Nov 16, 2020 15:16:11 GMT
Brilliant work in compiling that list, goodnightirene, but would a fairer comparison of management ability be shown by percentage of points won from points available? After all, a draw is worth a point. Just on a call, give me some time and you'll have it yes agree it’s a great list and the % of points won would help to differentiate. What would also really help for comparison is a loss rate. What % of total games have they lost? Think we have had our fill of defeats for a while
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Post by alanrg on Nov 16, 2020 15:20:40 GMT
Daniel Stendel now 12/1 at Skybet
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 16, 2020 15:23:02 GMT
Daniel Stendel now 12/1 at Skybet Lol they been on the forum
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