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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 19, 2020 16:43:23 GMT
Good appointment IMO. There would be a risk, who ever we appointed.
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Post by pirate on Nov 19, 2020 16:46:30 GMT
Says the clown that started a thread back in the day with "DC clueless when it comes to playing league teams at the Mem" in the season we went on to win promotion. What a numpty 🤣 Can i call you a clown as you stated BG was a "good" coach..... just sayin'  Just shows your mentality when you'd rather snipe at me before welcoming the new manager. What a sad case. You still making a fool of yourself over on the Sh1!heads forum by the way? 🤣 |
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Post by RD on Nov 19, 2020 16:54:35 GMT
Sorry if it’s already been covered ( can’t see it anywhere) but to make an appointment that quick surely it was in the pipeline before garner got sacked. Also strange that Starnes said we would be taking our time then few days later we’ve got one in the door. ? There couldn’t have been anyone else even interviewed. ? Disagree about it being in the pipeline - don't get me wrong, it could have been, but don't see why it means it definitely was; he was currently unemployed so very doable in the timescales. But I agree, it does seem very quick - can't have interviewed many others, if any? Some applications may have even still been in the post! Is it fair to say it was perhaps a tad rushed? Maybe another week wouldn't have hurt? I guess they must really feel Tisdale is the perfect man. |
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Post by blueridge on Nov 19, 2020 16:59:51 GMT
Congratulations Paul - good luck !!
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Post by RD on Nov 19, 2020 17:00:01 GMT
Like others I welcome Tis and wish him all the best.
I think there's definitely reason to be hopeful, and of course every appointment is a risk.
My biggest concern - and this is probably very harsh (but is my gut feeling nonetheless); I just worry he thinks he's a bit better than he is. Don't get me wrong, I realise how British and harsh that sounds by the way. But the whole website thing is a bit cringe, and whilst he's very impressive when you hear him talk, he does sound perhaps a bit arrogant (i.e. you'd be forgiven for thinking you were listening to Pep or Klopp - a manager that's won the Champions League and several titles - not a manager with a promotion from non-league and League 2).
Even the whole super, super dressy attire all screams a bit "ooh look at me - I want all the attention please!".
Like I say, all very harsh no doubt, and I'm not saying I'm writing him off because of any of it but...... dare I say it there's almost a whiff of Paul Buckle-esque arrogance it feels?!?!
Hopefully all massively incorrect judgements on my part, and I certainly won't be pre-judging him on any of it regardless.
Fingers crossed he's a massive success.
UTG
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 19, 2020 17:03:09 GMT
Any manager with 20 year experience is going to have a few seasons that don't go to plan. Exeter will never be an established L1 side regardless who's in charge so he worked miracles just to get them there in my opinion; particularly when you consider where they were when he took over. MK Dons were in freefall when he took over there and he didn't just stop the slide, he got them automatic promotion. Losing his 3 first choice strikers to injury the following season cost him his job.
I'm cautiously optimistic with this appointment. I think he's the right man to continue the ongoing strategy we've put in place and I' sure can get more from our current group of players.
Some fans have compared him to Garner because of his manner but despite making limited appearances, Tisdale was a player for 9 years between 1991 and 2000. He's actually played and scored in the Premier League and since injury forced his early retirement he's racked up 20 years managerial experience; most of which were pretty successful.
Any manager we appointed would be a gamble, even Cook. Flynn, Duff and Taylor have very little experience and have never managed above L2, so there is certainly no guarntee they would have worked out well. Coughlan's record with us was outstanding but he'll go down as one of the worst managers in Mansfields history.
Lets give Tisdale a chance and see how he gets on at Rovers over the next few months.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 19, 2020 17:03:20 GMT
Welcome to the club, Paul! I really hope you go onto become a Gas legend.
Personally I am cautiously optimistic about this appointment. Tisdale, like most other managers, has got a some negatives as well as many positives from his previous clubs. However, no manager is guaranteed to bring success. We have seen many "proven" managers go on to fail at certain clubs.
If nothing else, his philosophy does indeed seem to be perfectly aligned with our club's philosophy, so let's hope it's a marriage made in heaven for us all!
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Post by wiaww on Nov 19, 2020 17:04:43 GMT
Sorry if it’s already been covered ( can’t see it anywhere) but to make an appointment that quick surely it was in the pipeline before garner got sacked. Also strange that Starnes said we would be taking our time then few days later we’ve got one in the door. ? There couldn’t have been anyone else even interviewed. ? RE: Starnes' comments - it would have been quite amiss to have publicly said that Rovers already had someone in mind when Garner was sacked, even if privately it was true. It does seem plausible that a "soft" approach to Tisdale may have been made prior to Garner's dismissal to gauge interest. I think the idea that we had Tisdale in the pipeline goes a way to explaining the timing of Garner's dismissal, and the fact that Widdrington was given the reins for this week. |
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Post by RD on Nov 19, 2020 17:05:27 GMT
Any manager with 20 year experience is going to have a few seasons that don't go to plan. Exeter will never be an established L1 side regardless who's in charge so he worked miracles just to get them there in my opinion; particularly when you consider where they were when he took over. MK Dons were in freefall when he took over there and he didn't just stop the slide, he got them automatic promotion. Losing his 3 first choice strikers to injury the following season cost him his job. I'm cautiously optimistic with this appointment. I think he's the right man to continue the ongoing strategy we've put in place and I' sure can get more from our current group of players. Some fans have compared him to Garner because of his manner but despite making limited appearances, Tisdale was a player for 9 years between 1991 and 2000. He's actually played and scored in the Premier League and since injury forced his early retirement he's racked up 20 years managerial experience; most of which were pretty successful. Any manager we appointed would be a gamble, even Cook. Flynn, Duff and Taylor have very little experience and have never managed above L2, so there is certainly no guarntee they would have worked out well. Coughlan's record with us was outstanding but he'll go down as one of the worst managers in Mansfields history. Lets give Tisdale a chance and see how he gets on at Rovers over the next few months. Great post |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Nov 19, 2020 17:07:17 GMT
We could be drawn v one of Pauls old clubs in every ones fav cup, MK or Exeter !
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Nov 19, 2020 17:07:37 GMT
Can i call you a clown as you stated BG was a "good" coach..... just sayin' Just shows your mentality when you'd rather snipe at me before welcoming the new manager. What a sad case. You still making a fool of yourself over on the Sh1!heads forum by the way? 🤣 Plus his CV suggests he is a good coach, just didn't work for him as a manager. Tis certainly fits our requirements at this time and is a good appointment imho. Welcome to the madhouse Tis! |
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Post by piratejames on Nov 19, 2020 17:10:16 GMT
Sorry if it’s already been covered ( can’t see it anywhere) but to make an appointment that quick surely it was in the pipeline before garner got sacked. Also strange that Starnes said we would be taking our time then few days later we’ve got one in the door. ? There couldn’t have been anyone else even interviewed. ? Disagree about it being in the pipeline - don't get me wrong, it could have been, but don't see why it means it definitely was; he was currently unemployed so very doable in the timescales. But I agree, it does seem very quick - can't have interviewed many others, if any? Some applications may have even still been in the post! Is it fair to say it was perhaps a tad rushed? Maybe another week wouldn't have hurt? I guess they must really feel Tisdale is the perfect man. You can look at it two ways as with most things, it’s a good thing because our board have a clear and direct vision and not being side tracked by anything else. It’s quite quick so have they explored all options. Personally I think it’s a good appointment, a lot of people said they liked the idea of what garner wants to do but didn’t have the experience. Well this is him isn’t it? I know he hasn’t done much out of league two but I am excited and rejuvenated for the season now, onwards and upwards! UTG |
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Post by youln on Nov 19, 2020 17:14:11 GMT
Welcome to him.
Very good news to have found an ambitious coach and this quick.
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Post by darkbluegas on Nov 19, 2020 17:16:46 GMT
Good luck to Paul Tisdale he must be delighted with his appointment.
Glad to hear that he matches our ambition, the CEO didn’t seem to elaborate on what it was though.
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Post by gregsy on Nov 19, 2020 17:17:02 GMT
I really hope this works quickly because I'm not sure how all the 'DNA' 'philosophy' 'ideology' stuff will work if we find ourselves in a relegation fight with a group of young inexperienced players....
Hopefully it won't come to that....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 17:19:02 GMT
Like others I welcome Tis and wish him all the best. I think there's definitely reason to be hopeful, and of course every appointment is a risk. My biggest concern - and this is probably very harsh (but is my gut feeling nonetheless); I just worry he thinks he's a bit better than he is. Don't get me wrong, I realise how British and harsh that sounds by the way. But the whole website thing is a bit cringe, and whilst he's very impressive when you hear him talk, he does sound perhaps a bit arrogant (i.e. you'd be forgiven for thinking you were listening to Pep or Klopp - a manager that's won the Champions League and several titles - not a manager with a promotion from non-league and League 2). Even the whole super, super dressy attire all screams a bit "ooh look at me - I want all the attention please!". Like I say, all very harsh no doubt, and I'm not saying I'm writing him off because of any of it but...... dare I say it there's almost a whiff of Paul Buckle-esque arrogance it feels?!?! Hopefully all massively incorrect judgements on my part, and I certainly won't be pre-judging him on any of it regardless. Fingers crossed he's a massive success. UTG I know what you are getting at with the over confidence thing... Think good managers have to be super confident though, for it to transfer on to players mentality. Obviously with Garner he thought he could toss any player into the team and he'd get results, his confidence turned out to be a sham or total arrogance. |
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Post by neilv93 on Nov 19, 2020 17:23:34 GMT
Like others I welcome Tis and wish him all the best. I think there's definitely reason to be hopeful, and of course every appointment is a risk. My biggest concern - and this is probably very harsh (but is my gut feeling nonetheless); I just worry he thinks he's a bit better than he is. Don't get me wrong, I realise how British and harsh that sounds by the way. But the whole website thing is a bit cringe, and whilst he's very impressive when you hear him talk, he does sound perhaps a bit arrogant (i.e. you'd be forgiven for thinking you were listening to Pep or Klopp - a manager that's won the Champions League and several titles - not a manager with a promotion from non-league and League 2). Even the whole super, super dressy attire all screams a bit "ooh look at me - I want all the attention please!". Like I say, all very harsh no doubt, and I'm not saying I'm writing him off because of any of it but...... dare I say it there's almost a whiff of Paul Buckle-esque arrogance it feels?!?! Hopefully all massively incorrect judgements on my part, and I certainly won't be pre-judging him on any of it regardless. Fingers crossed he's a massive success. UTG I completely get where you're coming from, but I'd absolutely prefer a manager with a bit (lot) of self confidence to come in - especially when Tisdale (unlike the Buckle's of this world) have a career of mostly-successful seasons to point to as a reference. There's a fine line between being self-assured and cocky, no doubt, but I think his manner tbh. Also, the dress sense is fine IMO. He's mates with Ted Baker and, you know, 'dress for the job you want not the job you have' thing haha! Plus, it actually very faintly takes the limelight away from the players when they play poorly (no one is talking about how Nagelsmann's Leipzig got DESTROYED by Utd 5-0, folk are more interesting in discussing his flashy suit than the terrible player performances). |
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Post by Nortongashead on Nov 19, 2020 17:26:49 GMT
Welcome to the gas Paul!! I believe we have found an ambitious experienced manager that is project based. He lives locally so already settled and ready to go. Well done to the club for acting quickly, all done in 5 days! Now lets beat those roundabout loving inbreds!!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 19, 2020 17:28:43 GMT
I really hope this works quickly because I'm not sure how all the 'DNA' 'philosophy' 'ideology' stuff will work if we find ourselves in a relegation fight with a group of young inexperienced players.... Hopefully it won't come to that.... I think the difference between Tisdale and Garner is twofold He has the experience, and the willingness to, chuck those philosophies and ideologies away when it is necessary to. There is zero point following them if you’re not getting results. I don’t think Tisdale will entertain them if there’s a risk they’re going to get us relegated. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Nov 19, 2020 17:30:15 GMT
Welcome to the club Gaffer , good luck , please be a success!!! UTG
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