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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 22:41:15 GMT
I see sky bet and bet victor have taken down the odds for our next manager and i cant seem to find anyone taking bets on it online, so i can only assume the deal is done.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 22:47:19 GMT
He's best mates with Ray Kelvin the founder of Ted Baker. Get's loads of freebies which he wears on the touchline. It's a better look than Klopp and Pulis wearing the club shop Tracksuit and Cap, that's for sure. When it comes to clothes I expect a manager to be dressed for the occasion. Either smart or in club training attire. I agree with what Tisdale has to say on the matter to be honest - dressing smart can put the team into the right frame of mind. I remember hearing or reading Ollie I think say the same thing that he lost a playoff as he wasn’t prepared enough - and that went down to dressing in the right gear for the day - as a manager wearing a suit. He went back the next time and won. After reading this I realised in our playoff final Darrell was dressed smart and Paul Hurst was in training attire. I sincerely believe Ollie gave DC this advice, and that he gave it to Hurst in turn who was wearing a suit the following year I think there is a general life experience lesson here. I am a believer that your clothes can match your mindset and attitude so I can see the value of that advice. However I do draw the line at that flat cap I recall Tisdale wearing once, seemed too “try hard” |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2020 22:47:44 GMT
When it comes to clothes I expect a manager to be dressed for the occasion. Either smart or in club training attire. I agree with what Tisdale has to say on the matter to be honest - dressing smart can put the team into the right frame of mind. I remember hearing or reading Ollie I think say the same thing that he lost a playoff as he wasn’t prepared enough - and that went down to dressing in the right gear for the day - as a manager wearing a suit. He went back the next time and won. After reading this I realised in our playoff final Darrell was dressed smart and Paul Hurst was in training attire. I sincerely believe Ollie gave DC this advice, and that he gave it to Hurst in turn who was wearing a suit the following year As a manager I suppose it doesn't really matter as long as you get results. You have Klopp whose always dressed in a tracksuit and then you have Pep whose like Tisdale, always in designer clobber. You've also got people like Bielsa who always looks scruffy and sits on a bin all game drinking cups of Bovril, ask any Leeds fan and they'll tell you he's the second coming. Win matches. Simple task. I always thought Tisdale looked a bit of a prat TBH wearing a cap on the touchline, I can't see the way he looked inspiring most L1/L2 players. He's starting to sound like another BG, somebody who spends too much time thinking about things rather than actually doing them. The fact Pirate wants him as our manager must surely set alarm bells ringing at Rovers. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 22:49:32 GMT
As a manager I suppose it doesn't really matter as long as you get results. You have Klopp whose always dressed in a tracksuit and then you have Pep whose like Tisdale, always in designer clobber. You've also got people like Bielsa who always looks scruffy and sits on a bin all game drinking cups of Bovril, ask any Leeds fan and they'll tell you he's the second coming. Win matches. Simple task. I always thought Tisdale looked a bit of a prat TBH wearing a cap on the touchline, I can't see the way he looked inspiring most L1/L2 players. He's starting to sound like another BG, somebody who spends too much time thinking about things rather than actually doing them. The fact Pirate wants him as our manager must surely set alarm bells ringing at Rovers. Hahaha brutal 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 22:50:42 GMT
As a manager I suppose it doesn't really matter as long as you get results. You have Klopp whose always dressed in a tracksuit and then you have Pep whose like Tisdale, always in designer clobber. You've also got people like Bielsa who always looks scruffy and sits on a bin all game drinking cups of Bovril, ask any Leeds fan and they'll tell you he's the second coming. Win matches. Simple task. I always thought Tisdale looked a bit of a prat TBH wearing a cap on the touchline, I can't see the way he looked inspiring most L1/L2 players. He's starting to sound like another BG, somebody who spends too much time thinking about things rather than actually doing them. The fact Pirate wants him as our manager must surely set alarm bells ringing at Rovers. chill winston!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 22:53:41 GMT
As a manager I suppose it doesn't really matter as long as you get results. You have Klopp whose always dressed in a tracksuit and then you have Pep whose like Tisdale, always in designer clobber. You've also got people like Bielsa who always looks scruffy and sits on a bin all game drinking cups of Bovril, ask any Leeds fan and they'll tell you he's the second coming. Win matches. Simple task. I always thought Tisdale looked a bit of a prat TBH wearing a cap on the touchline, I can't see the way he looked inspiring most L1/L2 players. He's starting to sound like another BG, somebody who spends too much time thinking about things rather than actually doing them. The fact Pirate wants him as our manager must surely set alarm bells ringing at Rovers. “ Coaching is worthless without the clarity of macro direction. Can the leader set the tone and galvanise the group for each challenge that lies ahead? This is fundamental. Keep it simple and work together. Only then can the detail of coaching have an impact. Successful Management is about alignment of purpose between all stakeholders so that the path forward is understood. Everyone must agree on ‘what success looks like’.” There’s certainly a lot of business bullshit in there. He sounds better suited to a series of the apprentice |
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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2020 22:55:58 GMT
As a manager I suppose it doesn't really matter as long as you get results. You have Klopp whose always dressed in a tracksuit and then you have Pep whose like Tisdale, always in designer clobber. You've also got people like Bielsa who always looks scruffy and sits on a bin all game drinking cups of Bovril, ask any Leeds fan and they'll tell you he's the second coming. Win matches. Simple task. I always thought Tisdale looked a bit of a prat TBH wearing a cap on the touchline, I can't see the way he looked inspiring most L1/L2 players. He's starting to sound like another BG, somebody who spends too much time thinking about things rather than actually doing them. The fact Pirate wants him as our manager must surely set alarm bells ringing at Rovers. Topper you clown, 99% of your posts are utter sh**e and the other 1% is such gobbledegook its deserves its own section. |
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Nov 18, 2020 22:59:07 GMT
I see sky bet and bet victor have taken down the odds for our next manager and i cant seem to find anyone taking bets on it online, so i can only assume the deal is done. Compared to how we normally conduct the search for a new manager where it normally takes weeks on end, is it me or does this all seem a bit too quick? I’m starting to get the feeling this might have been in the pipeline even when BG was still manager. |
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Post by womble on Nov 18, 2020 23:03:12 GMT
I see sky bet and bet victor have taken down the odds for our next manager and i cant seem to find anyone taking bets on it online, so i can only assume the deal is done. Compared to how we normally conduct the search for a new manager where it normally takes weeks on end, is it me or does this all seem a bit too quick? I’m starting to get the feeling this might have been in the pipeline even when BG was still manager. You’d hope I think that after last season went so badly, someone might have been thinking what if...? And at least given a little thought to what might happen next. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 23:03:51 GMT
I see sky bet and bet victor have taken down the odds for our next manager and i cant seem to find anyone taking bets on it online, so i can only assume the deal is done. Compared to how we normally conduct the search for a new manager where it normally takes weeks on end, is it me or does this all seem a bit too quick? I’m starting to get the feeling this might have been in the pipeline even when BG was still manager. its been inevitable for a while and i suppose they would have needed to have a plan b |
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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2020 23:07:00 GMT
I always thought Tisdale looked a bit of a prat TBH wearing a cap on the touchline, I can't see the way he looked inspiring most L1/L2 players. He's starting to sound like another BG, somebody who spends too much time thinking about things rather than actually doing them. The fact Pirate wants him as our manager must surely set alarm bells ringing at Rovers. “ Coaching is worthless without the clarity of macro direction. Can the leader set the tone and galvanise the group for each challenge that lies ahead? This is fundamental. Keep it simple and work together. Only then can the detail of coaching have an impact. Successful Management is about alignment of purpose between all stakeholders so that the path forward is understood. Everyone must agree on ‘what success looks like’.” There’s certainly a lot of business bullshit in there. He sounds better suited to a series of the apprentice Make your mind up. An hour ago it was all.. "He seems to have the right moral fibre, after a bullshit artist like Garner it would be nice to have a manager who takes responsibility and speaks honestly." Now you seem to want to take Topper's crown for the person who flip flops more than a hippies sandal. 😆 |
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 18, 2020 23:14:15 GMT
I see sky bet and bet victor have taken down the odds for our next manager and i cant seem to find anyone taking bets on it online, so i can only assume the deal is done. Compared to how we normally conduct the search for a new manager where it normally takes weeks on end, is it me or does this all seem a bit too quick? I’m starting to get the feeling this might have been in the pipeline even when BG was still manager. I’m sure you’re right and I hope they were. With the poor run at home recently I would hope the owners were prepared with a plan B or even plan C if they needed to act. I suppose the search for a new manager may have used to take some time but DC and GC were natural take overs, I think someone said it was 9 days between GC going and BGs appointment. I can’t remember about John W but perhaps back along, pre-2012 it may have taken longer. In the end I guess it’s better to get the appointment right rather than do it quickly, let’s hope this appointment is both. UTG! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 23:16:33 GMT
“ Coaching is worthless without the clarity of macro direction. Can the leader set the tone and galvanise the group for each challenge that lies ahead? This is fundamental. Keep it simple and work together. Only then can the detail of coaching have an impact. Successful Management is about alignment of purpose between all stakeholders so that the path forward is understood. Everyone must agree on ‘what success looks like’.” There’s certainly a lot of business bullshit in there. He sounds better suited to a series of the apprentice Make your mind up. An hour ago it was all.. "He seems to have the right moral fibre, after a bullshit artist like Garner it would be nice to have a manager who takes responsibility and speaks honestly." Now you seem to want to take Topper's crown for the person who flip flops more than a hippies sandal. 😆 Well, they aren’t mutually exclusive concepts are they? I can praise someone’s moral fibre and believe that will be a positive that they will bring to the role (because it’s pretty much inevitable he will be the manager now) while still thinking they aren’t the right man for the job can’t I? He might want to be honest with fans (good stuff) but he talks like a marketing director on amphetamine. Ah well, good luck to him in reinvigorating the upline between the key stakeholders on the ground and the actors in the problem domain using blue sky thinking to unlock their untapped potential.....or something. |
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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2020 23:17:57 GMT
Flippity flop.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 23:44:17 GMT
It’s okay, I don’t mind you singling me out as I know you’re feeling the pressure on your reputation after being the first to publicly back Garner 😛 |
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Post by RD on Nov 18, 2020 23:48:13 GMT
Complete Joke-Div 2 here we come ,then onto ths Conference-Happy Days . Calling it - You are a sh** head lady garden. |
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Nov 19, 2020 0:25:05 GMT
Tisdale has done amazing as a manager, seeing as he only played 73 league games, 18 of those abroad.
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Post by darkbluegas on Nov 19, 2020 1:06:01 GMT
I feel like I must be missing something here, are we really saying the sum total of our ambition is to appoint a manager with a record over nearly two decades that amounts to getting teams promoted from the fourth division only to get them relegated again. I’m sure he’s a smashing chap but surely we could aim a bit higher.
Although I’m sure our CEO knows him really well and has a great relationship with him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 1:36:35 GMT
I feel like I must be missing something here, are we really saying the sum total of our ambition is to appoint a manager with a record over nearly two decades that amounts to getting teams promoted from the fourth division only to get them relegated again. I’m sure he’s a smashing chap but surely we could aim a bit higher. Although I’m sure our CEO knows him really well and has a great relationship with him. That sums up where I am. Great manager for league two a couple of years ago, but we’re league one in the present. Ah well, it’s inevitable now. I’m just trying to content myself he’s not Garner and he can’t wreck a winning team and that’s a massive positive in and of itself. |
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Post by pirate on Nov 19, 2020 2:13:33 GMT
Tisdale has done amazing as a manager, seeing as he only played 73 league games, 18 of those abroad. Not bad at all. Started up a club from scratch at Team Bath, winning four promotions in his time there and advancing them through four qualifying rounds to the first round proper of the FA Cup. Also launched the professional careers of several players. Took over a club at Exeter City in a diabolical financial position and became the first Exeter City manager in their history to lead the club to back-to-back promotions and also the highest ever league finish. Also took them to three other playoff finals. Developed several outstanding players at the club, making £7-8 million in transfer fees during that time. Took a club at MK Dons that were on a 3 year downward spiral from the Championship-League Two and managed to get them promoted at the first attempt. Signed a player in Rhys Healey for £200k who would later be sold on for £1.1m. |
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