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Post by albaron on Nov 21, 2020 17:56:42 GMT
From today's match both Kilgour & Tutonda have to be rested. The forwards although playing fairly well today must have more support from the midfield & wingbacks. The only way to do this at present is to bring back Daly as Hanlon's partner up front and have Nicholson lingering just behind. Bring in Westbrook & Oztumer as well. Then in Jan we need to bin Harries,Upson & JVS and sign someone to help out the forwards.
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Post by fanatical on Nov 21, 2020 17:57:08 GMT
Whilst I do not suggest for one moment that this is the case, or even hint that it is, I suggest that everyone who rubbishes our new manager should remember the start that Sir Alex had at Man Utd. You never know what might happen - so my message is 'give the guy a chance' before passing a verdict.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 21, 2020 17:57:57 GMT
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Post by barumgas on Nov 21, 2020 17:58:00 GMT
First thing Tisdale should do on Monday is make each player sit down and read this thread from start to finish. They should be ashamed of that performance
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Post by bluebiro on Nov 21, 2020 18:00:22 GMT
From today's match both Kilgour & Tutonda have to be rested. The forwards although playing fairly well today must have more support from the midfield & wingbacks. The only way to do this at present is to bring back Daly as Hanlon's partner up front and have Nicholson lingering just behind. Bring in Westbrook & Oztumer as well. Then in Jan we need to bin Harries,Upson & JVS and sign someone to help out the forwards. also need to get ogogo back asap
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Post by fanatical on Nov 21, 2020 18:00:25 GMT
First thing Tisdale should do on Monday is make each player sit down and read this thread from start to finish. They should be ashamed of that performance How many can read? - they are footballers!
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Post by scottleroc on Nov 21, 2020 18:04:30 GMT
Something feels very wrong at the club. The infrastructure is improving, Wael seems a good owner, transfer business seemed good, BG seemed as though he just needed his own players and results would pick up but it seems to have imploded. The player seem to have no fight even. I’m sure there are good players in there and it feels like it needs someone to bring the players together and get a playing system that works and try to get some positivity and confidence back. The players all seem a pale shadow of what was expected for me, except Hanlan and Jaakola. I don’t know the answer and I really don’t think PT is the answer but obviously hoping to be proven completely wrong!
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Post by horfield on Nov 21, 2020 18:05:09 GMT
Today is not Tisdale's fault, he's inherited a confused and poorly set up bunch of players, probably to comfortable on long contracts and a good wage to put a shift in on match day. You have to look at the wasted last 11 months as the root cause, poor judgement on all fronts, we need Red Adair in now to turn things around starting at Wigan next Tuesday.
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Post by CheshireGas on Nov 21, 2020 18:05:36 GMT
First thing Tisdale should do on Monday is make each player sit down and read this thread from start to finish. They should be ashamed of that performance I presume that is a joke. If Tisdale reads this thread he'll wonder why he is bothering coming here.....
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 21, 2020 18:05:38 GMT
Well that was as bad as last Saturday Swindle are garbage and we lost, cant criticise Paul but the substitutions were baffling.
We are left so light up front but have 100 midfield options ffs
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Post by playtowin on Nov 21, 2020 18:06:53 GMT
Widdrington said the other day that he looks into players we sign on what sort of character they have, well who ever does that for him has had his pants down, no of them seem to break into a sweat they really do not seem like Rovers players to me, we have had some dross over the years but some have gone on and had really good careers with shear effort and balls , these lot don’t give a sh**e they got their 2/3 year contracts, they have already got Garner the sack, Tisdale will be next unless he sorts some of them out straight away It's just my opinion but this is rubbish. The players all tried and battled all game . Nobody went missing. It just didnt work today. Players made mistakes , passes went astray , runs were misread . The team played a different way today as they did midweek against Chelsea. They dont fully understand their roles and disciplines yet. Rovers could have as easily snuck a win as to slip to defeat. Swindon didnt make rovers look poor at any point.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 21, 2020 18:12:41 GMT
On another note Yeovil are bottom of national league, heading to Conference South.
I bet Cogs will get offered the job and take it!
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Post by Marshy on Nov 21, 2020 18:13:50 GMT
Widdrington said the other day that he looks into players we sign on what sort of character they have, well who ever does that for him has had his pants down, no of them seem to break into a sweat they really do not seem like Rovers players to me, we have had some dross over the years but some have gone on and had really good careers with shear effort and balls , these lot don’t give a sh**e they got their 2/3 year contracts, they have already got Garner the sack, Tisdale will be next unless he sorts some of them out straight away It's just my opinion but this is rubbish. The players all tried and battled all game . Nobody went missing. It just didnt work today. Players made mistakes , passes went astray , runs were misread . The team played a different way today as they did midweek against Chelsea. They dont fully understand their roles and disciplines yet. Rovers could have as easily snuck a win as to slip to defeat. Swindon didnt make rovers look poor at any point. You’re right Swindon didn’t make us look poor, we did that all by ourselves! One sh** game. We’ll be fine, UTG!
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Post by Marshy on Nov 21, 2020 18:14:51 GMT
On another note Yeovil are bottom of national league, heading to Conference South. I bet Cogs will get offered the job and take it! 2 lady gardens together, good luck.
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Post by yetigas on Nov 21, 2020 18:14:58 GMT
From today's match both Kilgour & Tutonda have to be rested. The forwards although playing fairly well today must have more support from the midfield & wingbacks. The only way to do this at present is to bring back Daly as Hanlon's partner up front and have Nicholson lingering just behind. Bring in Westbrook & Oztumer as well. Then in Jan we need to bin Harries,Upson & JVS and sign someone to help out the forwards. Agree with most of this though I think Daly is injured. Hopefully Davies will be back to strengthen the defence before not too long. It would be interesting to play Westbrook and Oztumer in the same team though I think we would need to pick the right match to try it out. Maybe the Darlington FA Cup match would be fun with them both playing
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Post by oasisgas on Nov 21, 2020 18:15:03 GMT
What concerned me about todays game, only the 3rd game I’ve seen granted is that the defence does not look at all at ease at trying to play the ball out from the back.
Numerous times today a defender would recieve the ball without being under pressure and the pass a made to the next player while it may not have been wayward it seemed like the ball was a yard or 2 behind the player or instead of playing it just the front so the player could run onto it he would either have to check his run or go back slightly to recieve it and then by that time the player was getting closed down and it had to be played back to the keeper who would clear it or the full-backs had to clear it. I was and still am for playing the ball out from the back but i think the defenders seem to panic when they get the ball and if Tisdale decided to tell them for the next half a dozen games to * playing the ball around at the back which gives the oppostion time to put pressure on them and just to try to get the ball forward first I would not at all be against that.
Harries was said to be our best ball playing defender but instead of him trying to bring it out and play simple he IMO tries the cross field diagonal ball too many times which is either played too far forward or the ball just goes out of play!!!
One of the first things I would do if I was PT is tell Grant to concentrate on keeping it simple by winning the ball back and play it to the nearest player instead of trying to go for that killer pass, Today his passing was very error prone and I think thats probably where he has been switched from a centre-back to midfield.
Think we need to go back to the basics first and then let PT set his tone for how he want the team to play. I know a few fans have said about Ogogo coming back into the team and to be honest I think he would give us that bite in the middle, might not be flashy but I think every team needs a player like that to get stuck in.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 21, 2020 18:20:54 GMT
Time to take a break again, nothing’s changed same people ruining this forum for the majority. On another note Yeovil are bottom of national league, heading to Conference South. I bet Cogs will get offered the job and take it! 2 lady gardens together, good luck. 👀
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Post by fanatical on Nov 21, 2020 18:22:16 GMT
Something feels very wrong at the club. The infrastructure is improving, Wael seems a good owner, transfer business seemed good, BG seemed as though he just needed his own players and results would pick up but it seems to have imploded. The player seem to have no fight even. I’m sure there are good players in there and it feels like it needs someone to bring the players together and get a playing system that works and try to get some positivity and confidence back. The players all seem a pale shadow of what was expected for me, except Hanlan and Jaakola. I don’t know the answer and I really don’t think PT is the answer but obviously hoping to be proven completely wrong! The conumdrum could be - is it better to spend on better players who will play on sub standard pitches? or spend the money on excellent pitches while saving on the standard of players? Personally, I would opt for better players paid well because only 50% of matches are played at home.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 21, 2020 18:22:27 GMT
Time to take a break again, nothing’s changed same people ruining this forum for the majority. 2 lady gardens together, good luck. 👀 And you complete the hat trick.
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Post by socrates on Nov 21, 2020 18:24:45 GMT
When you have no strikers on the bench game after game . You realise WHY the board allowed garner to put together the most unbalanced squad I ever witness in 40 years. We have a situation were some players in midfield might never get a game . We have not 1 or 2 but 4 left backs. My concern is hanlan will get burntout and we will have to use emergency strikers from other areas. We still got 10 games to window and 1 fit tired overused striker. It's frustrating because this was coming and everyone could see it !! Spot on. I really don’t get the whole “ garners left us in very good shape “ I think that’s Rubbish. WeVe got four left backs, 3 strikers of which only one is fit, boat loads of defenders and midfielders , hardly any experienced leaders and very little quality throughout the entire squad. Our best hope for this season would be go back to basics and play to our strengths the problem is I’m not sure what this squads strengths are I’m not sure that we even have any. The window can’t come soon enough and what Tisdale does in it combined with whether he can make some sense of this squad will make or break our season.
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