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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 21, 2020 19:08:27 GMT
Anybody know when Ayunga is likely 2 b back at least he would give us a different option Weeks away by the sounds of things as he's had some kind of recurrence, although it's a worry that our main hope now is the return to fitness of an ex NLS striker! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 21, 2020 19:10:02 GMT
I know I keep banging on about this and I know it is the same four both sides do u think no crowds is not helping this team We had been in decent form away from home with our only defeat being at Doncaster, at the Mem we've been ever since we replaced the old pitch. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Nov 21, 2020 19:10:27 GMT
That was truly abysmal as bad if not worse than anything we've seen so far this season.
I totally understand that Tisdale is newly appointed and picking the side would have been more the coaching staffs area today but some of the in game decisions baffled me. Definitely agreed with changing the formation but cant for the life of me understand the thinking behind having a centre back in midfield with other options on the bench.
Uncharacteristic mistake from Jaakkola cost us the goal really up until then it had 0-0 written all over it. With Daly injured our lack of forward options was really exposed, Jan is still a few games away so desperately need him & Ayunga back asap.
Very early days for the new gaffer and I'm certainly not going to be too critical of him after 2 days in charge but we cant afford to get dragged much further towards the bottom. A lot for him to think about, I dont think anyone could have too many complaints about being left out on Tues, bar Jaakkola & Hanlan I cant see anyone whose place is safe.
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Post by utg4eva on Nov 21, 2020 19:16:38 GMT
That was truly abysmal as bad if not worse than anything we've seen so far this season. I totally understand that Tisdale is newly appointed and picking the side would have been more the coaching staffs area today but some of the in game decisions baffled me. Definitely agreed with changing the formation but cant for the life of me understand the thinking behind having a centre back in midfield with other options on the bench. Uncharacteristic mistake from Jaakkola cost us the goal really up until then it had 0-0 written all over it. With Daly injured our lack of forward options was really exposed, Jan is still a few games away so desperately need him & Ayunga back asap. Very early days for the new gaffer and I'm certainly not going to be too critical of him after 2 days in charge but we cant afford to get dragged much further towards the bottom. A lot for him to think about, I dont think anyone could have too many complaints about being left out on Tues, bar Jaakkola & Hanlan I cant see anyone whose place is safe. We had two fit senior strikers in the squad and we started both on Tuesday night in the pizza cup. Absolute madness! Just to flex our muscles and get a win. Hanlan will have to start Tuesday which will be his 4th game in 10 days. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 21, 2020 19:38:37 GMT
After that performance and lack of any coherent game plan, I would have liked Tisdale to have called them in on Sunday so he had two sessions with them before the trip to Wigan. Is that too harsh a reaction? That's one way to turn the players against you before you've stepped in the door.. |
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Post by wilmslowgas on Nov 21, 2020 20:03:22 GMT
A really disappointing performance and result. We need to pick up points against teams like Swindon. If we can't then relegation beckons.
I can't make up my mind whether this batch of players are heartless or inept. Possibly both.
So much for the new manager bounce!
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 21, 2020 20:05:52 GMT
Today is not Tisdale's fault, he's inherited a confused and poorly set up bunch of players, probably to comfortable on long contracts and a good wage to put a shift in on match day. You have to look at the wasted last 11 months as the root cause, poor judgement on all fronts, we need Red Adair in now to turn things around starting at Wigan next Tuesday. Really. Well I would love to know who’s bright idea it was to start Upson over Westbrooke. I would also like to know who’s bright idea it was to play Tutonda over Koiki. I would also like to know why he pushed Harries into no mans land for most of the second half. I would also like to know who’s game plan it was that after 80 mins and being 1-0 we bring on 2 defenders to see out the 1-0 loss instead of throwing the kitchen sink at a really really crap Swindon side. This was the kind of nonsense I was expecting from Tisdale of the back of watching him around our leagues for 15 odd years and also from the comments of MK Dons fans. I really hope that he gorges himself on videos of the squad and the last 10 games and gets them on the training pitch ASAP to work out his best starting 11, formation and game plan or we are getting relegated. That is not panicking or being dramatic that is the absolute reality. |
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Post by rovers69 on Nov 21, 2020 20:07:45 GMT
Look on the bright side at least PT has not lost the dressing room as he never had them. Totally disjointed performance and defeats looming at Wigan and Darlington-whose next inline for the merry go round.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 21, 2020 20:09:13 GMT
Today is not Tisdale's fault, he's inherited a confused and poorly set up bunch of players, probably to comfortable on long contracts and a good wage to put a shift in on match day. You have to look at the wasted last 11 months as the root cause, poor judgement on all fronts, we need Red Adair in now to turn things around starting at Wigan next Tuesday. Really. Well I would love to know who’s bright idea it was to start Upson over Westbrooke. I would also like to know who’s bright idea it was to play Tutonda over Koiki. I would also like to know why he pushed Harries into no mans land for most of the second half. I would also like to know who’s game plan it was that after 80 mins and being 1-0 we bring on 2 defenders to see out the 1-0 loss instead of throwing the kitchen sink at a really really crap Swindon side. This was the kind of nonsense I was expecting from Tisdale of the back of watching him around our leagues for 15 odd years and also from the comments of MK Dons fans. I really hope that he gorges himself on videos of the squad and the last 10 games and gets them on the training pitch ASAP to work out his best starting 11, formation and game plan or we are getting relegated. That is not panicking or being dramatic that is the absolute reality. One small correction...the double sub was after 87 minutes. A grand total of 3 minutes plus stoppage time with a reverted 5-3-2 formation. |
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Post by alanrg on Nov 21, 2020 20:09:15 GMT
These players need a kick up the backside they r vastly under performing
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 21, 2020 20:10:57 GMT
After that performance and lack of any coherent game plan, I would have liked Tisdale to have called them in on Sunday so he had two sessions with them before the trip to Wigan. Is that too harsh a reaction? That's one way to turn the players against you before you've stepped in the door.. It looked liked they couldn't care less today anyway, Hare said in midweek the players let BG down by not performing, then they go and do it again for the new manager in his first game in charge. |
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Post by exetergas on Nov 21, 2020 20:11:30 GMT
Drives me nuts how many free kick we give away in dangerous positions. That is why we concede from set pieces time and time again. Naive from a team that is strugg!ing to learn how to win or even draw ugly, it is a worry for sure.
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Post by ineedgas on Nov 21, 2020 20:12:32 GMT
Today is not Tisdale's fault, he's inherited a confused and poorly set up bunch of players, probably to comfortable on long contracts and a good wage to put a shift in on match day. You have to look at the wasted last 11 months as the root cause, poor judgement on all fronts, we need Red Adair in now to turn things around starting at Wigan next Tuesday. Really. Well I would love to know who’s bright idea it was to start Upson over Westbrooke. I would also like to know who’s bright idea it was to play Tutonda over Koiki. I would also like to know why he pushed Harries into no mans land for most of the second half. I would also like to know who’s game plan it was that after 80 mins and being 1-0 we bring on 2 defenders to see out the 1-0 loss instead of throwing the kitchen sink at a really really crap Swindon side. This was the kind of nonsense I was expecting from Tisdale of the back of watching him around our leagues for 15 odd years and also from the comments of MK Dons fans. I really hope that he gorges himself on videos of the squad and the last 10 games and gets them on the training pitch ASAP to work out his best starting 11, formation and game plan or we are getting relegated. That is not panicking or being dramatic that is the absolute reality. Totally agree with what you said maybe I'm not the only one confused with this forum |
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Post by markczgas on Nov 21, 2020 20:20:59 GMT
sorry to say it but Tisdale set up negatively today - with one eye on a 0 -0 . Biggest evidence of that came at HT when Harries was moved forward !!?? He could've given that role to a midfielder - Upson and then put on Westbrooke or Otzumer to give us more forward impetus. Sometimes you get bitten on the bum for not giving it a go and that's what happened.
Westbrooke was brought on pretty late.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Nov 21, 2020 20:21:37 GMT
Today is not Tisdale's fault, he's inherited a confused and poorly set up bunch of players, probably to comfortable on long contracts and a good wage to put a shift in on match day. You have to look at the wasted last 11 months as the root cause, poor judgement on all fronts, we need Red Adair in now to turn things around starting at Wigan next Tuesday. Really. Well I would love to know who’s bright idea it was to start Upson over Westbrooke. I would also like to know who’s bright idea it was to play Tutonda over Koiki. I would also like to know why he pushed Harries into no mans land for most of the second half. I would also like to know who’s game plan it was that after 80 mins and being 1-0 we bring on 2 defenders to see out the 1-0 loss instead of throwing the kitchen sink at a really really crap Swindon side. This was the kind of nonsense I was expecting from Tisdale of the back of watching him around our leagues for 15 odd years and also from the comments of MK Dons fans. I really hope that he gorges himself on videos of the squad and the last 10 games and gets them on the training pitch ASAP to work out his best starting 11, formation and game plan or we are getting relegated. That is not panicking or being dramatic that is the absolute reality. Completely agree regarding Westbrooke, Koiki & Harries but I do have some sympathy with the last 2 subs. He obviously wanted the wing backs higher up the pitch similar too how we set up on Weds and in fairness both if them got into good positions in those last few minutes. My main criticism would be with both Upson & Grant in the side why weren't the wing backs that high up from the start. Swindon have conceded goals for fun and we set up with effectively a back 5 and 2 holding midfielders, I'm baffled by that. |
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Post by markczgas on Nov 21, 2020 20:24:59 GMT
That's one way to turn the players against you before you've stepped in the door.. It looked liked they couldn't care less today anyway, Hare said in midweek the players let BG down by not performing, then they go and do it again for the new manager in his first game in charge. I get your watered off that we lost today - so am I ! but to say they couldn't care less is GARBAGE. |
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Post by alanrg on Nov 21, 2020 20:26:18 GMT
Poor team selection today Oztumer should have played worrying times ahead if we can’t beat rubbish like Swindon
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Post by markczgas on Nov 21, 2020 20:26:38 GMT
Today is not Tisdale's fault, he's inherited a confused and poorly set up bunch of players, probably to comfortable on long contracts and a good wage to put a shift in on match day. You have to look at the wasted last 11 months as the root cause, poor judgement on all fronts, we need Red Adair in now to turn things around starting at Wigan next Tuesday. Really. Well I would love to know who’s bright idea it was to start Upson over Westbrooke. I would also like to know who’s bright idea it was to play Tutonda over Koiki. I would also like to know why he pushed Harries into no mans land for most of the second half. I would also like to know who’s game plan it was that after 80 mins and being 1-0 we bring on 2 defenders to see out the 1-0 loss instead of throwing the kitchen sink at a really really crap Swindon side. This was the kind of nonsense I was expecting from Tisdale of the back of watching him around our leagues for 15 odd years and also from the comments of MK Dons fans. I really hope that he gorges himself on videos of the squad and the last 10 games and gets them on the training pitch ASAP to work out his best starting 11, formation and game plan or we are getting relegated. That is not panicking or being dramatic that is the absolute reality. Does anyone else think Koiki is better than Tutonda ? shocked by this one. |
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Nov 21, 2020 20:28:51 GMT
After a few hours to calm down, I’m just laughing now, that at 1-0 down with minutes to go, we brought off an attacking mid and brought on a centre back!
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Post by alanrg on Nov 21, 2020 20:30:02 GMT
Do the coaching staff know what they r doing picking that side with no Oztumer
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