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Post by stuart1974 on May 24, 2024 22:44:59 GMT
Still too many and hold too much sway over what may be a rump Conservative Party. Is there a convenient list of majorities? Be interesting to see who is likely to be left come 5 July. Only 2 out of 10 labour MPs who backed lexit are left …. John Cryer & Graham Stringer . Let’s see how things unfold for the loony party….. I see Corbyn is standing as an Independent, he could get it too. Won't affect the final results. Greens too hoping to get more and expected to get the new Bristol Central, their co leader is a Bristol girl.
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Post by yattongas on May 24, 2024 22:47:10 GMT
Only 2 out of 10 labour MPs who backed lexit are left …. John Cryer & Graham Stringer . Let’s see how things unfold for the loony party….. I see Corbyn is standing as an Independent, he could get it too. Won't affect the final results. Greens too hoping to get more and expected to get the new Bristol Central, their co leader is a Bristol girl. Don’t know the numbers for Corbyn but I’ve got a feeling he’ll lose to the Labour candidate
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Post by stuart1974 on May 24, 2024 23:03:33 GMT
I see Corbyn is standing as an Independent, he could get it too. Won't affect the final results. Greens too hoping to get more and expected to get the new Bristol Central, their co leader is a Bristol girl. Don’t know the numbers for Corbyn but I’ve got a feeling he’ll lose to the Labour candidate Hope so. Labour won in 2019 with 64%, 4 times that of the Lib Dems in second place. Even a straight split wouldn't let another in based on those figures. Going to be a two horse race unless the Lib Dem vote shoots up.
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Post by trevorgas on May 25, 2024 6:11:31 GMT
Don’t know the numbers for Corbyn but I’ve got a feeling he’ll lose to the Labour candidate Hope so. Labour won in 2019 with 64%, 4 times that of the Lib Dems in second place. Even a straight split wouldn't let another in based on those figures. Going to be a two horse race unless the Lib Dem vote shoots up. Hoping the Lib Dems crash and burn ,have no time for them at all,when they had the chance to influence life in this Country they morphed into Conservatives and became joint authors of austerity with Davey very much involved ,which he's conveniently forgot.
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Post by yattongas on May 25, 2024 16:37:57 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on May 25, 2024 18:02:44 GMT
It's these small things that stings the most.
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Post by yattongas on May 25, 2024 20:00:59 GMT
It's these small things that stings the most. Just gone through The Channel tunnel earlier today , bloke working there said from October it’s going to be absolute carnage. His advice was only use the trains between 11pm and 5am ….. or it’ll be a *very* long wait . Marvellous! 🇬🇧
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Post by yattongas on May 29, 2024 8:00:45 GMT
The Tories’ disastrous misunderstanding of America
Boris Johnson, 2017: “We hear that we’re first in line to do a great trade deal with the US.” Liz Truss, 2019: “My main priority now will be agreeing a free trade deal with the US.” Dominic Raab, a cabinet eminence at around the same time: “President Trump has made clear again that he wants an ambitious trade agreement with the UK.”
Then Rishi Sunak on the same subject last summer. “For a while now, that has not been a priority for either the US or UK.” Oh.
This government’s single greatest disservice to the UK has been to misunderstand the US. Brexit was, from the start, a huge bet on the economic openness of America. A bilateral trade deal with Washington was meant to offset the loss of unfettered access to the EU market. That no such deal emerged was bad enough (though as predictable as sunrise). But then Donald Trump and later Joe Biden embraced a wider protectionism. World trade is fragmenting as a result. So for Britain, double jeopardy: no agreement with America, but also less and less prospect of agreements with third countries.
As the US is neutering the World Trade Organization, blocking appointments to its appellate bench, Britain can’t even count on multilateralism to keep the liberal flame from snuffing out. In essence, the nation staked its future on trade at the exact historical moment that it fell out of favour as an idea. It is the geostrategic equivalent of investing one’s life savings in a DVD manufacturer circa 2009.
Now, leave aside the question of whether America is right to turn against trade. The turn is happening, and Tories should have anticipated it. Anyone with a passing knowledge of Washington could have warned them not to confuse the place for a free-market bastion.
In 1992, the trade sceptic Ross Perot won 19 per cent of the national vote as an independent presidential candidate. “Fast track”, the law that allows the president a free-ish hand to do trade deals, lapsed more than once in the decades either side of the millennium, such was the cross-partisan mistrust of it in Congress.
Look at the dates here. This was the high summer of “neoliberalism”. Imagine how much stronger the protectionist impulse was in normal times. Or rather than imagine, check the record. It shows the tariff walls of the 1800s. It shows the statism of Alexander Hamilton and Abraham Lincoln. Smoot-Hawley wasn’t an interwar aberration.
Britain had the Corn Laws, of course, and Imperial Preference. But protectionist sentiment is a force in American life to an extent that it can’t be in a mid-sized, resource-poor archipelago. It is then transformed into policy via sectoral lobby groups of a scale and sophistication that must be seen up close to be believed. (Prediction: in the contest with China, a lot of industries will turn out to be “strategic”.)
All this is America’s sovereign right. If I lived in a continental-scale market with superabundant resources, I’d need a lot of persuading from David Ricardo and The Economist that I am still better off trading. But that is the point. The Tories think the crucial fact about America is that it is made up of Britain’s “cousins”. (It isn’t, unless we are consulting the census of 1810.) In fact, what matters are certain geographic and geologic realities, which render the US much less dependent on commercial exchange with the outside world.
After that, the next most important fact is its status. America is defending a position as the world’s number one power. Chinese imports — of electric vehicles, say — poke at anxieties that aren’t half as raw in Britain.
One needn’t admire this about the US. One can suspect it of hysteria, in fact. But the job of a British government is to fathom these things before betting the nation’s entire future on a hunch that America will forever uphold world trade.
This mistake came from “Atlanticist” Tories, remember — the ones who read Andrew Roberts and track the exact co-ordinates of the Churchill bust in the White House. (Barack Obama was hated for moving it.) Well, after giving it all that, these people failed on their own terms. They failed to understand US politics. Britain will foot the bill of their error for decades.
“Trade”: even the moral connotation of the word is distinct in each nation. It has had a high-minded ring to it in Britain ever since the abolition of the Corn Laws helped to feed the working poor. In America, where the cotton-exporting Confederates were free-traders, history isn’t quite so clear-cut. It is almost as if these are different countries.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 29, 2024 9:32:57 GMT
Spoke with a family member recently. She is a dual national owing to a previous marriage and residence, she has to now rescind her other passport on renewing her British one and wonders why this wasn't an issue before. 🤔
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Post by yattongas on May 29, 2024 9:40:01 GMT
Spoke with a family member recently. She is a dual national owing to a previous marriage and residence, she has to now rescind her other passport on renewing her British one and wonders why this wasn't an issue before. 🤔 Why ? Just googled this….. In short, you can have dual citizenship after Brexit. There has been no change to UK nationality law regarding dual citizenship.May 21, 2024 www.globalcitizensolutions.com › ... How UK Dual Citizenship and Brexit Works - Global Citizen Solutions
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Post by stuart1974 on May 29, 2024 9:57:13 GMT
Spoke with a family member recently. She is a dual national owing to a previous marriage and residence, she has to now rescind her other passport on renewing her British one and wonders why this wasn't an issue before. 🤔 Why ? Just googled this….. In short, you can have dual citizenship after Brexit. There has been no change to UK nationality law regarding dual citizenship.May 21, 2024 www.globalcitizensolutions.com › ... How UK Dual Citizenship and Brexit Works - Global Citizen Solutions Not totally sure, maybe having to renew both but something preventing her having the other one? She's definitely got to lose the non British one and sign an agreement. Strange.
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Post by oldie on May 31, 2024 13:45:01 GMT
Why ? Just googled this….. In short, you can have dual citizenship after Brexit. There has been no change to UK nationality law regarding dual citizenship.May 21, 2024 www.globalcitizensolutions.com › ... How UK Dual Citizenship and Brexit Works - Global Citizen Solutions Not totally sure, maybe having to renew both but something preventing her having the other one? She's definitely got to lose the non British one and sign an agreement. Strange. Not my experience. Unless the law has changed
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 5, 2024 22:11:55 GMT
Strewth……Omaha Beach…..of all the landing sites on D-Day that one was the shortest of short straws to pick. Just can’t imagine what went through the mind the brave souls on those landing craft. Bad enough watching it on Saving Private Ryan from the comfort of a cosy armchair. Ever lasting respect to those that were there…… My Grandfather was a Captain with the Royal Engineers and was in landing craft at D-day . He landed on either Juno or Gold Beach. Not sure which as the Engineers landed on both and he never talked about his experience so never divulged which beach. If asked he would just clam up and never said a word. On the reverse he was more than happy to discuss his experience on the beaches of Dunkirk. I was so proud of him. Raising a glass tonight? 🍻
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2024 7:13:29 GMT
My Grandfather was a Captain with the Royal Engineers and was in landing craft at D-day . He landed on either Juno or Gold Beach. Not sure which as the Engineers landed on both and he never talked about his experience so never divulged which beach. If asked he would just clam up and never said a word. On the reverse he was more than happy to discuss his experience on the beaches of Dunkirk. I was so proud of him. Raising a glass tonight? 🍻 Absolutely, and of course today 🍺🍺 Thank you Stu.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 6, 2024 7:23:05 GMT
Raising a glass tonight? 🍻 Absolutely, and of course today 🍺🍺 Thank you Stu. Pollen count is up today.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2024 9:31:06 GMT
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2024 10:19:58 GMT
When did you last travel to France without having to show your passport.? Probably the last time anyone from Britain travelled to France without a need to show a passport was June 6th 1944.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2024 10:30:21 GMT
When did you last travel to France without having to show your passport.? Probably the last time anyone from Britain travelled to France without a need to show a passport was June 6th 1944. Morning France 😃 Have you apologised to Rayner & Starmer yet ?
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2024 11:07:05 GMT
Watched the D-Day commemorations this morning with a tear in my eye. The youngest veteran at Ver Sur Mer was 96, this means he took part aged just 16. Apparently he changed his date of birth on his ration book so he could fight for his country.
Can't see many 16 year olds today doing that for their country.
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Post by supergas on Jun 6, 2024 11:32:05 GMT
What was the point of the French doing that? Paperwork could have been done in advance or well away from the cameras on such an important day...
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