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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jan 25, 2021 14:39:33 GMT
Play in reverse and we might get something, team below. Ayunga Rodman Liddle Hargraves Barrett Upsom Little Baldwin Elmer Tutonda Day Pretty sure Upson could be out injured for a long time. Could be onto something wit the 4-1-4-1 though
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Post by garystash on Jan 25, 2021 14:49:13 GMT
What would I do? Bend over and take it probably :-D It would be some achievement to get something other than one of our twice a year beatings from the posh. Seriously considering saving myself the stress and not watching tomorrow. Unless I see one of Sam N or Erhun O back in the team I don't think I'll bother. Would you watch if they set up like I suggested? I guess playing Ayunga means the pressure is off of Hanlan. It's been proven time and again this season that Hanlan can't do it on his own, so I like that choice. In my opinion your midfield is too weak, and will struggle to get the ball back when we lose it. I'd be interested enough to watch though :-)
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jan 25, 2021 14:55:57 GMT
Would you watch if they set up like I suggested? I guess playing Ayunga means the pressure is off of Hanlan. It's been proven time and again this season that Hanlan can't do it on his own, so I like that choice. In my opinion your midfield is too weak, and will struggle to get the ball back when we lose it. I'd be interested enough to watch though :-) Yeah its certainly not without fault a line up but it does make for an optimistic watch like you said. Wonder what we could do to strengthen the mid. I think we don't have much left to pick from after injuries (assuming Oz, Nicholson and Upson are out) Ogogo - would offer more in the tackle Hargreaves - would offer more pressing and tackles Liddle - unsure want to see more Rodman - would offer more experience and maybe better aerial dominance What do you think mate? Any of these offer more to that team?
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Post by lpgas1 on Jan 25, 2021 14:58:54 GMT
I expect Peterboro to beat us at a canter and JCH to score 2 in a 3-0 defeat. What would I do? Rest the first team and play kids. We have as much chance of any points as we have winning Euromillions 😁
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Post by garystash on Jan 25, 2021 15:22:52 GMT
I guess playing Ayunga means the pressure is off of Hanlan. It's been proven time and again this season that Hanlan can't do it on his own, so I like that choice. In my opinion your midfield is too weak, and will struggle to get the ball back when we lose it. I'd be interested enough to watch though :-) Yeah its certainly not without fault a line up but it does make for an optimistic watch like you said. Wonder what we could do to strengthen the mid. I think we don't have much left to pick from after injuries (assuming Oz, Nicholson and Upson are out) Ogogo - would offer more in the tackle Hargreaves - would offer more pressing and tackles Liddle - unsure want to see more Rodman - would offer more experience and maybe better aerial dominance What do you think mate? Any of these offer more to that team? Well it's proper tricky for sure. I'd be tempted to go for a straight 4-4-2 and keep it simple. From your line up I'd drop Westbrooke, McCormick and Barrett, and bring in Ogogo, Rodman and Leahy. I'd push Koiki forward into a winger role (assuming he can do that), and play Rodman - or maybe McCormick on the right. Be like: -----------------------------Day----------------------------- Williams -----------Kilgour------Ehmer--------------Leahy Rodman-----------Ogogo-------Grant----------------Koiki --------------------Hanlan------Ayunga-------------------- I'd plan to get the ball up to Ayunga as quickly as possible, bypassing their midfield. Koiki and Rodman will have to work hard in defence as well as getting forward quickly to support the attack. Ogogo and Grant should be cautious in getting forward as they need to protect our defence. So basically, I'd play a long ball game, not pretty but might work.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jan 25, 2021 15:25:52 GMT
Yeah its certainly not without fault a line up but it does make for an optimistic watch like you said. Wonder what we could do to strengthen the mid. I think we don't have much left to pick from after injuries (assuming Oz, Nicholson and Upson are out) Ogogo - would offer more in the tackle Hargreaves - would offer more pressing and tackles Liddle - unsure want to see more Rodman - would offer more experience and maybe better aerial dominance What do you think mate? Any of these offer more to that team? Well it's proper tricky for sure. I'd be tempted to go for a straight 4-4-2 and keep it simple. From your line up I'd drop Westbrooke, McCormick and Barrett, and bring in Ogogo, Rodman and Leahy. I'd push Koiki forward into a winger role (assuming he can do that), and play Rodman - or maybe McCormick on the right. Be like: -----------------------------Day----------------------------- Williams -----------Kilgour------Ehmer--------------Leahy Rodman-----------Ogogo-------Grant----------------Koiki --------------------Hanlan------Ayunga-------------------- I'd plan to get the ball up to Ayunga as quickly as possible, bypassing their midfield. Koiki and Rodman will have to work hard in defence as well as getting forward quickly to support the attack. Ogogo and Grant should be cautious in getting forward as they need to protect our defence. So basically, I'd play a long ball game, not pretty but might work. Certainly using more experienced players vs mine thats for sure and the 4-4-2 not being used very much so could surprise them
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Post by garystash on Jan 25, 2021 15:30:20 GMT
Well it's proper tricky for sure. I'd be tempted to go for a straight 4-4-2 and keep it simple. From your line up I'd drop Westbrooke, McCormick and Barrett, and bring in Ogogo, Rodman and Leahy. I'd push Koiki forward into a winger role (assuming he can do that), and play Rodman - or maybe McCormick on the right. Be like: -----------------------------Day----------------------------- Williams -----------Kilgour------Ehmer--------------Leahy Rodman-----------Ogogo-------Grant----------------Koiki --------------------Hanlan------Ayunga-------------------- I'd plan to get the ball up to Ayunga as quickly as possible, bypassing their midfield. Koiki and Rodman will have to work hard in defence as well as getting forward quickly to support the attack. Ogogo and Grant should be cautious in getting forward as they need to protect our defence. So basically, I'd play a long ball game, not pretty but might work. Certainly using more experienced players vs mine thats for sure and the 4-4-2 not being used very much so could surprise them I just don't think we'll outpass them, so need to take a different approach. I tried to fit McCormick into my team because I think he's in form, has great energy, and is strong for a young player. However, not sure where I'd put him without complicating it. I do think we need a Coughlan style approach in the midfield, to try and stop them playing - but we only have 2 defensive midfielders available (that I can think of) so they're both in.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jan 25, 2021 15:33:23 GMT
Certainly using more experienced players vs mine thats for sure and the 4-4-2 not being used very much so could surprise them I just don't think we'll outpass them, so need to take a different approach. I tried to fit McCormick into my team because I think he's in form, has great energy, and is strong for a young player. However, not sure where I'd put him without complicating it. I do think we need a Coughlan style approach in the midfield, to try and stop them playing - but we only have 2 defensive midfielders available (that I can think of) so they're both in. IF you want McCormick maybe drop Rodders and put Hanlan on the right wing and play Macca in the number 10 / support striker role behind Ayunga - could work
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Post by garystash on Jan 25, 2021 15:43:26 GMT
I just don't think we'll outpass them, so need to take a different approach. I tried to fit McCormick into my team because I think he's in form, has great energy, and is strong for a young player. However, not sure where I'd put him without complicating it. I do think we need a Coughlan style approach in the midfield, to try and stop them playing - but we only have 2 defensive midfielders available (that I can think of) so they're both in. IF you want McCormick maybe drop Rodders and put Hanlan on the right wing and play Macca in the number 10 / support striker role behind Ayunga - could work That's a good shout, although I'd quite like the wingers to have some defensive ability. Plus I'd back Rodman to pick a cross out when the opportunity arises.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jan 25, 2021 15:44:43 GMT
Strange results always happen in football, so I'm hoping tomorrow will be one of those games. Ever the optimist!
I'd go for a 4-2-3-1 something like this, with 3-4 players kept higher up the pitch as a constant outlet.
Day Williams Alfie Ehmer Leahy Ogogo Grant Rodman McCormick Barrett/Westbrooke Hanlon Too many teams go defensive against the 'better' teams, but aren't good enough to just defend for 90 mins so get the ball up to the front men at every opportunity and put them on the back foot from kick off. They will just push numbers forward if we sit too deep. I also hope that JCH is as bad as he was in our last game against them and Ehmer is moved back into the middle for the heading battle. Rodman is in based purely on previous seasons as he has had goals in him, but you could easily push Hanlon out there, where is arguably better, and put Ayunga up top. Not sure about the left of the 3, Westbrooke needs to be more decisive with his forward play, but is usually involved more in games than others. Barrett may or may not work but needs a chance and I still wouldn't put a left back in this position (Koiki or Tutonda) without seeing a bit more of them. What is important is that the 2 sitting midfielders do actually sit and protect the defence, which then enables the forward players to play.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 16:06:30 GMT
I am bracing myself for a 5-0 battering .... Four scored in the first half so our Management Team will spin that the Second half was a positive step forward. My confidence in PT is now at its lowest point, a few more of his bullshit match analysis and i'm done with him.
As long as we compete, tackle, run not walk and the players come off at the end having truly given their best then phuc you Barry Fry ...Do your worst.
Proper Team selection is crucial - Right players for the right positions Tisdale FFS! - We will need some energy and bite .. Westbrooke is a bottler in the tackle and offers little that McCormick cant replace - I would bench him for sure and play anyone that will fight for the cause in his place.
Interesting that Upson is now 'injured' - Cant move him on now in this window - Convenient that!
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 25, 2021 16:22:52 GMT
Best thing to do is stick a fiver on at 20/1 for a 4_1 defeat, sadly can't see us getting anything again,the hundred pounds will soften the blow. Bit optimistic to expect us to score 1 away, only had 1 shot on target Sat. Bit optimistic to expect us only to let four in as well
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 25, 2021 16:51:28 GMT
I am bracing myself for a 5-0 battering .... Four scored in the first half so our Management Team will spin that the Second half was a positive step forward. My confidence in PT is now at its lowest point, a few more of his bullshit match analysis and i'm done with him. As long as we compete, tackle, run not walk and the players come off at the end having truly given their best then phuc you Barry Fry ...Do your worst. Proper Team selection is crucial - Right players for the right positions Tisdale FFS! - We will need some energy and bite .. Westbrooke is a bottler in the tackle and offers little that McCormick cant replace - I would bench him for sure and play anyone that will fight for the cause in his place. Interesting that Upson is now 'injured' - Cant move him on now in this window - Convenient that! I doubt any player can frain an hamstring tear as it'll show up on a scan. Regardless why would PT move on a player who seems to be usually one of the first on his team sheet? You spent all last season slagging off OC now it's EU's turn, as a Rovers CM upset you in the past or something?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 25, 2021 17:00:08 GMT
I wonder whether it would be worth writing this one off and treat it like a Papa John match. ---------------------Day------------------------- Little---------Baldwin-----Harries-----------Koike --------------------Ogogo------------------------ ---------Hargreaves--------Liddle---------------- Rodman------------------------------------Barrett --------------------Ayunga----------------------- I'm not saying I'd definitely do this but it would give our better players a rest and protect them from potentially getting injured in a match we are highly likely to lose anyway. I said before this week's games we should go all out in the first two then rest a few players, DC style, tomorrow night, so we can then start with a reasonably fresh side in the far more important game on Saturday. If Nicko and Ozt are not going to be fit, or even match sharp, for Saturday then it would be madness in my view to risk starting with Hanlan tomorrow night and then risk only having Ayunga fit for Saturday. I've just realised we have Accrington and Fleetwood in away games after Rochdale, so Saturday's game is looking even more important if we want to avoid a long run without a win, given we hardly ever win at those two north west based clubs. If we do lose tomorrow perhaps we need to delay a Gaschat meltdown until after Saturday's game?
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 25, 2021 17:12:33 GMT
PRAY!!!!
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 25, 2021 17:19:22 GMT
Ogogo and Grant in the centre is like handing Peterborough the midfield. They are both too poor at passing and neither seems disciplined enough to actually mark. The pair of them were very poor Saturday and don't deserve another chance. We probably do have to play one of them though.
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Post by dmacca65 on Jan 25, 2021 17:25:07 GMT
Forget the Peterborough game, its a loss already thats a dead cert, wait until the summer then approach Accrington Stanley for their entire squad and manager!
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Post by station on Jan 25, 2021 17:37:41 GMT
White flag 😬
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 17:41:21 GMT
I am bracing myself for a 5-0 battering .... Four scored in the first half so our Management Team will spin that the Second half was a positive step forward. My confidence in PT is now at its lowest point, a few more of his bullshit match analysis and i'm done with him. As long as we compete, tackle, run not walk and the players come off at the end having truly given their best then phuc you Barry Fry ...Do your worst. Proper Team selection is crucial - Right players for the right positions Tisdale FFS! - We will need some energy and bite .. Westbrooke is a bottler in the tackle and offers little that McCormick cant replace - I would bench him for sure and play anyone that will fight for the cause in his place. Interesting that Upson is now 'injured' - Cant move him on now in this window - Convenient that! I doubt any player can frain an hamstring tear as it'll show up on a scan. Regardless why would PT move on a player who seems to be usually one of the first on his team sheet? You spent all last season slagging off OC now it's EU's turn, as a Rovers CM upset you in the past or something? You're right Topper I spent the whole of last season slagging off Ollie Clarke as his performances were embarrassing, awful most weeks not being able to do the basics. Upson is beyond frustrating - rarely involved in the game, adds little value and when played alongside Westbrooke it's no wonder that the oppositions Midfield dictate the play. I find it amazing that he has played so often and hopefully now he takes as long as the others in our Medical Centre have taken to come back. On another note your post got me thinking ....Interesting that the last three Captains we have appointed have been unable to inspire a team on the pitch, were all crazy quiet and at times their own performances probably didn't warrant them even starting games.
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Post by aforce on Jan 25, 2021 17:52:02 GMT
Laughable some of these comments were not playing Real Madrid ffs. The team sheff Utd bought down and we gave a solid account of ourselves against are head and shoulders above Peterborough ffs
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