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Post by GasAttacK on Feb 3, 2021 12:05:40 GMT
11 points from 13 league games is an even worse return than Garner managed this season and 7 defeats and 1 draw from our last 8 games in all competitions suggests there is no sign of improvement. In fact, after last night debacle it's hard to imagine how things could get any worse.
So after 17 games in charge is it time for Tisdale to go?
If you think he deserves 3 more games, what points return would he need to achieve to keep your support?
(A) Fleetwood (H) Oxford (H) Swindon
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Post by LJG on Feb 3, 2021 12:06:35 GMT
Should never have been appointed. Go now.
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Post by bigal40 on Feb 3, 2021 12:10:53 GMT
Go Now
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Post by gregsy on Feb 3, 2021 12:12:51 GMT
Bit difficult to vote on if you don't know the terms of his contract....
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Post by TAGas on Feb 3, 2021 12:14:46 GMT
I didn't want him here, but will always give the guy a chance. He shouldn't have been appointed in the first place. I said it many times before and I got quoted for it. He was the cheap option, out of work for a year and agreed to keep all the backroom staff and not spend a penny in January. Where as other managers would have not agreed to do so.
But unless we get hammered 4/5/6-0 every week he isn't going anywhere and even then he still might not go. Too expensive for the club to pay his contract off, Garners contract off and Tisdale's replacement his wages and no doubt Rovers will over him a nice 2 and a half year deal also.
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 3, 2021 12:17:56 GMT
I didn't want him here, but will always give the guy a chance. He shouldn't have been appointed in the first place. I said it many times before and I got quoted for it. He was the cheap option, out of work for a year and agreed to keep all the backroom staff and not spend a penny in January. Where as other managers would have not agreed to do so. But unless we get hammered 4/5/6-0 every week he isn't going anywhere and even then he still might not go. Too expensive for the club to pay his contract off, Garners contract off and Tisdale's replacement his wages and no doubt Rovers will over him a nice 2 and a half year deal also. Sack the board |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 12:22:38 GMT
I didn't want him here, but will always give the guy a chance. He shouldn't have been appointed in the first place. I said it many times before and I got quoted for it. He was the cheap option, out of work for a year and agreed to keep all the backroom staff and not spend a penny in January. Where as other managers would have not agreed to do so. But unless we get hammered 4/5/6-0 every week he isn't going anywhere and even then he still might not go. Too expensive for the club to pay his contract off, Garners contract off and Tisdale's replacement his wages and no doubt Rovers will over him a nice 2 and a half year deal also. Length of contract is irrelevant, the break clause in it is the important thing. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 3, 2021 12:30:51 GMT
After sleeping on it, it’s a case of until the end of the season.
I struggle to see a different manager getting these players performing any better than Garner or Tisdale have.
They are after all Garners players, not Tisdales.
My patience is wearing thin though and PT is culpable for the lack of movement in the window. We surely could have moved some players around on loan at the very least?
I am resigned to the fact we’re probably relegated already. Best we can hope for is four teams to be worse than us, or some sort of intervention eg benefiting from a team exiting the league, penalties for malpractice, or cancellation of the season.
If he does go we need someone in the mould of Graham Coughlan
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Post by alanrg on Feb 3, 2021 12:33:56 GMT
Did not want him here in first place if it is another hiding at Fleetwood I think is position becomes untenable
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 12:34:43 GMT
Depends on the replacement for me. Its ok saying go now but then what?
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Post by tommym9 on Feb 3, 2021 12:36:14 GMT
Would love to know how many teams have sacked two managers in a single season AND stayed up.
Stick with him until the end of the season for me. Realistically who are we going to get in? Transfer window closed too.
On paper our squad is great. I was very excited when the players were coming in. Now I look at the signings and I wonder how many are up for a relegation scrap?
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 3, 2021 12:40:44 GMT
On paper our squad is great. Is it though? It seems we have a completely dysfunctional, unbalanced and inexperienced squad. We started the Hull game with the 7 forward players having less League appearances together than Ed Upson. Our squad is poor but littered with potential. Unfortunately they all seem to have potential in the same 2 positions. |
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Post by GasAttacK on Feb 3, 2021 12:42:46 GMT
After sleeping on it, it’s a case of until the end of the season. I struggle to see a different manager getting these players performing any better than Garner or Tisdale have. They are after all Garners players, not Tisdales. My patience is wearing thin though and PT is culpable for the lack of movement in the window. We surely could have moved some players around on loan at the very least? I am resigned to the fact we’re probably relegated already. Best we can hope for is four teams to be worse than us, or some sort of intervention eg benefiting from a team exiting the league, penalties for malpractice, or cancellation of the season. If he does go we need someone in the mould of Graham Coughlan Before yesterday I would have agreed with you.
However, the lack of passion and fight in the performance at Accrington was alarming. He doesn't appear to be able to motivate the players or get them out of this slump. 7 defeats from our last 8 games in all competitions culminating in last nights debacle suggests there is very little chance of things improving.
I agree, I only hope is that someone in the mould of Graham Coughlan because the Garner / Tisdale approach is clearly not working.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 3, 2021 12:46:56 GMT
It was a lazy appointment. One that lacked any creativity. I feel for Tisdale because he has inherited a team that doesn’t know what winning is, and it’s clear that Garner has squeezed most of the budget on players who just aren’t good enough.
Having said that, Tisdale has had time to get the basics right. He hasn’t. We are easy to beat and we don’t create enough. The players didn’t turn up for him last night and that makes Tisdale’s job extremely difficult.
Whatever happens to the manager, we are stuck with the same players. The same players who downed tools last night. Will a new manager get this bunch playing football? I don’t know. To me the damage has been done to this season.
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Post by gashead1 on Feb 3, 2021 12:48:43 GMT
The problem I see regarding management is.. the club announced when looking for the new manager was he had to be able to work with the up and coming youngsters. And work on promoting the talent into the first team squad.
I have no problem with that, but it sounds to me as though they are not looking to invest in players and only promote what we have.
And with a lot of money being spent on clearing large debts within the club, are they just looking to nestle down in league two anyway and re group, save some money and compete in league two with a half decent league two side??
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 3, 2021 12:52:05 GMT
The problem I see regarding management is.. the club announced when looking for the new manager was he had to be able to work with the up and coming youngsters. And work on promoting the talent into the first team squad. I have no problem with that, but it sounds to me as though they are not looking to invest in players and only promote what we have. And with a lot of money being spent on clearing large debts within the club, are they just looking to nestle down in league two anyway and re group, save some money and compete in league two with a half decent league two side?? That was what I thought was happening with Garner. But then someone at the club saw an opportunity to bung a nice fat contract to one of their own |
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Post by justin blue on Feb 3, 2021 12:59:21 GMT
This is Garners mess the same as it was Wards mess when DC took over.
We had to endure relegation and allow DC to rebuild then and maybe we will have to do the same again with Tiss.
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Post by Nortongashead on Feb 3, 2021 13:03:33 GMT
I didn't approve how he got the job. No one else was interviewed and no process applied. I was pro due to his experience but it seems his skills are more long term than putting out the big fire first that BG left. It seemed he fitted into the old boys club upstairs. Personally I would give him Fleetwood on Saturday to get a result of some sort. If he's fired his record supports it worse than BG this season. I want all managers to succeed but I've never seen our players show so little passion and fight as last night. Our DNA should always be that of fight, doggedness and effort that's the Bristol Rovers I know and love. I personally think there's to many fat cats at the top table not under enough scrutiny.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 3, 2021 13:06:01 GMT
This is Garners mess the same as it was Wards mess when DC took over. We had to endure relegation and allow DC to rebuild then and maybe we will have to do the same again with Tiss. Agree very much see it this way. And very much why I didn’t have sympathy for Garner and thought it was a grave error letting him assemble a squad in the summer. Difference between the two is he has picked up a squad which is underperforming and Garner had picked up a team that was storming the league. |
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Post by thegasman on Feb 3, 2021 13:45:23 GMT
Can't afford to get rid, put him in charge of the U11s, and bring back Hargreaves and Manse. Lose Widdringyon.
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