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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 15:11:08 GMT
Easy to say we didn’t deserve that result, 2 nil flattered them but we have to take out chances. We should have been at least 2 up at half time. Same as Rochdale and Oxford. In reality not a lot has changed. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 15:11:23 GMT
I hope not, this isn’t a bad defeat- we always lose at Gillingham and a bit of a reality check from Tuesday might not be a bad thing in the grand scheme of things in terms of not getting carried away and knowing there is still work to be done. The main thing is it sounds like we created chances and should be able to kick on from here. Would be daft to panic and appoint Barton simply because we lost a game of fine margins at a ground we typically lose at anyway. Panic and appoint him because we lost? No, I'd appoint him whether we won or lost. Best man for the job amongst the boring and uninspiring list of candidates linked. Widdrington has got an improvement out of these players, an improvement that has made us competitive. There’s no guarantees with someone else, especially Barton. The only way I see Barton bringing a definite benefit is with Clint Hill as defensive coach but surely we could go out and hire a defence coach til the end of the season? If we’d been sh**e the last two games I could understand the clamour for a new manager, but we’ve got three points and perhaps should have been more- very risky to spin the wheel of fortune again especially on a combustible character who hasn’t yet had experience of a fire fighting role. |
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Post by axegas on Feb 20, 2021 15:12:05 GMT
I think a lot of our worries returned in that we were wasteful at finishing and switching off at times at the back. The dressing room will be flat after that, no doubt.
However I did think we played quite well, TW has got us playing route one simple stuff and it seems to be working in terms of chance creation. Hanlan and Ayunga should have done better with some of the chances presented to them.
2-0 flattered Gills to say the least.
So we have obviously got a competitive squad there, it’s just about squeezing every ounce out of them to turn these narrow defeats into better results.
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Post by dmacca65 on Feb 20, 2021 15:13:03 GMT
The board have to get the best candidate available in for the job and quickly, need to be ruthless with the coaching team we have and let the new guy bring his own team in with him, it doesn't necessarily mean JB, anything less and we are carrying on in the same vain as we always seem too, I fear that TW might be a stumbling block to these aspirations though?
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Feb 20, 2021 15:13:46 GMT
I think we were unlucky, on another day we could’ve won that comfortably!
Mahoosive game on Tuesday!
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Post by gruad on Feb 20, 2021 15:13:56 GMT
Wael needs to do Put up or Shut up on TW.
He has a position of power without the responsibility.
Let's see if General Tommy can do what he expects Lieutenant Benjamin and Colonel Paul to do for Field Marshall Wael
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 15:14:05 GMT
God we are fickle sometimes! Yes we lost but we’ve all been crying out for a more attacking line up and we were punished for not taking our chances You can see the fight is there, it’s just the same old problem of not being able to defend properly For me Hanlan needs a rest, he’s played almost every game and looks lost. Play Daly and Ayunga up top with Nicholson behind. Must beat Wigan. And you fail to mention we did not score again. A striker like Akinde was what we needed at the start of the season. Somebody who only needs a chance or two to score, not twenty! We’ve got the goals in this team, remember? We were told so by the guy who does the recruitment! Okay, being facetious there and that comment could come back to haunt Widdrington. I think we’ll kick on from here if he stays in charge. It won’t be pretty but we should manage it. Defence is a concern more than scoring because at least we are creating chances |
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Post by bally144 on Feb 20, 2021 15:14:55 GMT
Deserved something from that game. Had mcCormick put away that great chance before their first or either shot that hit the 'woodwork' gone in it would have been very different. As soon as we were chasing we looked vulnerable. Ah well, we are competing and still above relegation currently so keep going!! UTG If we don’t take our chances and switch off twice like we did we don’t deserve something from the game. Ultimately when it mattered we were poor in both boxes and they weren’t. Nothing unlucky about that. Every team at this level switches off at some stage. In my opinion we deserved something and would have got it if either shot that hit the post had gone in. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 20, 2021 15:16:20 GMT
Easy to say we didn’t deserve that result, 2 nil flattered them but we have to take out chances. We should have been at least 2 up at half time. Yeah, but losing two-nil and being in with a chance is a step up from losing two-nil and not getting a sniff which in turn was a step up from losing two-nil and getting massacred. Hopefully in a few weeks we'll be losing two-nil but should have won. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 15:19:07 GMT
We have to move now and get that new manager in ... TW has put some fight back into the team now we need to build. Thought we did ok ... Defence again cost us - Baldwin / Harries are possibly the worst defensive pairing in L1 - Ehmer returning wont improve it much Nicholson should have started ... Hanlan made Akinde look like Aguero ... Jonah looked ok... Rest ok. I agree about getting a new manager in pdq but you seem to watch a different game to me each week. Baldwin/ Harries is hardly a defensive pairing with Kilgour in the mix. Baldwin had a decent game, Harries a good first half but less so second half, Kilgour was just poor and looked more and more disinterested as the game wore on. Hanlon didn't score of course but he had an excellent game, Jonah was the weak link today. Nicholson did nothing much when he came on but deserves a start? Over Daly? |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Feb 20, 2021 15:21:58 GMT
We have to move now and get that new manager in ... TW has put some fight back into the team now we need to build. Thought we did ok ... Defence again cost us - Baldwin / Harries are possibly the worst defensive pairing in L1 - Ehmer returning wont improve it much Nicholson should have started ... Hanlan made Akinde look like Aguero ... Jonah looked ok... Rest ok. I agree about getting a new manager in pdq but you seem to watch a different game to me each week. Baldwin/ Harries is hardly a defensive pairing with Kilgour in the mix. Baldwin had a decent game, Harries a good first half but less so second half, Kilgour was just poor and looked more and more disinterested as the game wore on. Hanlon didn't score of course but he had an excellent game, Jonah was the weak link today. Nicholson did nothing much when he came on but deserves a start? Over Daly? Nicholson is managing injury so not sure we could have expected much more from him today. I thought the front three did ok first half but Hanlan was by far the most threatening, all game. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Feb 20, 2021 15:22:14 GMT
I hope not, this isn’t a bad defeat- we always lose at Gillingham and a bit of a reality check from Tuesday might not be a bad thing in the grand scheme of things in terms of not getting carried away and knowing there is still work to be done. The main thing is it sounds like we created chances and should be able to kick on from here. Would be daft to panic and appoint Barton simply because we lost a game of fine margins at a ground we typically lose at anyway. a reality check? We’ve won one game in 12! Couldn’t be anymore obvious than that! We’re sh**, a total pushover |
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Post by Raj Gas on Feb 20, 2021 15:22:21 GMT
Whoever gets the job needs to either be or bring in a defensive coach because there are so many mistakes made at the back.
The 3 centre backs have no pace, and the wing-backs (Williams especially) do not track back enough, playing 3 cb's really affects our midfield and leads to too many hopeful balls from the back.
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Post by socrates on Feb 20, 2021 15:24:13 GMT
We have to move now and get that new manager in ... TW has put some fight back into the team now we need to build. Thought we did ok ... Defence again cost us - Baldwin / Harries are possibly the worst defensive pairing in L1 - Ehmer returning wont improve it much Nicholson should have started ... Hanlan made Akinde look like Aguero ... Jonah looked ok... Rest ok. I agree about getting a new manager in pdq but you seem to watch a different game to me each week. Baldwin/ Harries is hardly a defensive pairing with Kilgour in the mix. Baldwin had a decent game, Harries a good first half but less so second half, Kilgour was just poor and looked more and more disinterested as the game wore on. Hanlon didn't score of course but he had an excellent game, Jonah was the weak link today. Nicholson did nothing much when he came on but deserves a start? Over Daly? I can’t tell Baldwin and harries apart unless I can see the back of their shirts but one of them was at fault for the first and one of them was at fault for the penalty. None of our defenders have been consistently even average this season , Kilgour has probably been our best and he’s been poor compared to when he had Craig alongside. I still think playing 3 central defenders is causing most of the problems. 4231 or 442 would make things more simple and then we could play Nicholson in his more suited position. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Feb 20, 2021 15:24:49 GMT
Hugely frustrating, we've had by far the better chances but have paid again for being poor in both boxes. McCormick should score and with a minute we switch off and gift them a goal. It's a positive that we've created chances but unless either Widdrington or the new manager can sort out our failings at both ends of the pitch we aren't going to pull away from the bottom 4.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 20, 2021 15:25:29 GMT
I doubt bringing in a defensive coach is suddenly going to give our CB's pace? It's just another sign of our poor summer recruitment, I wonder what Barton has had to say about that and TW remaining in control of recruitment?
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Post by 4d on Feb 20, 2021 15:26:29 GMT
Nicholson offered nothing when he came on and we looked a poorer team. He’s carrying an injury so can’t be too hard on him. Kilgour has made more mistakes than any of our CBs this season but some won’t criticise as “he’s one of our own.” I think when fit Ehmer definitely comes back in for either Kilgour or Harries.
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Post by stevek192 on Feb 20, 2021 15:26:54 GMT
Personally felt ALL the players did ok. Just the usual individual errors at important times.Our defence always have a mistake in them. They can play well for 88 minutes but the 2 minutes when each individual defender switches off costs us the game.Hanlan played very well but should have scored twice. Result may be a blessing in disguise in that Wael may well see now we need a Manager.
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Post by barumgas on Feb 20, 2021 15:28:34 GMT
One thing was plain to see we were the better side but didn't take our chances. The defence played well in the first half but made a couple of crucial mistakes in the 2nd. Next game I would start Rodman instead of Daly and use him as an impact sub. As for Hanlan he has some superb skills but he isnt scoring, however I wouldn't drop him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 15:29:16 GMT
I hope not, this isn’t a bad defeat- we always lose at Gillingham and a bit of a reality check from Tuesday might not be a bad thing in the grand scheme of things in terms of not getting carried away and knowing there is still work to be done. The main thing is it sounds like we created chances and should be able to kick on from here. Would be daft to panic and appoint Barton simply because we lost a game of fine margins at a ground we typically lose at anyway. a reality check? We’ve won one game in 12! Couldn’t be anymore obvious than that! We’re sh**, a total pushover With respect we were world beaters on Tuesday and the recruitment was deemed to be excellent and now today the recruitment is sh**e and we’re going down. The reality is probably somewhere in the middle imo. This is an incremental improvement on Tisdale and we’ve picked up 3 points out of 6. We’ll probably defend badly and miss easy chances more times between now and the end of the season but if we’re creating chances (which we didn’t seem to be under Tisdale) then we’re already in a better place. These players (despite what TW would have you believe ARE limited, even Guardiola wouldn’t get them playing to their potential in the time left this season so it’s hopeful in the extreme to think Barton is going to get miracles from them. |
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