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Post by graceyboy on Mar 12, 2021 12:12:49 GMT
Maybe some on here think that Tom Nichols and brandon hanlan are value for money for us but I disagree if they don't score which is what they get paid to do. We are in a precarious position and the season has been a disaster. We all love the club and if we aren't doing very well then most of us will come up with observations and suggestions as to how we can improve because that is what we are desperate for. If things are going wrong then of course those comments are going to be negative. I say most people on here play by those rules but there are a few who rather than come up with suggestions themselves, merely read others suggestions and try and bad mouth those suggestions or pick the bones out of them in a pedantic way rather than put up a counter argument or a different opinion. These people are just wasting their posts with nothing constructive to add and waste everyone's time. To those people. Please bore off Comparing Hanlan to Nichols just shows how little you know about Rovers, in fact it does make you wonder if even watch us play, if you put them in the same bracket. As far as naming players we should sign, what does that actually achieve, do you think TW or JB reads the forum in order to see what players Graceyboy is suggesting they should sign? Regardless hopefully the new management set up as got a longer list than just ex Rovers players/previous targets. I put them in the same bracket of 'non goalscoring strikers' nothing more.. You've made up the rest in your deluded little head
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Post by graceyboy on Mar 12, 2021 12:14:23 GMT
Comparing Hanlan to Nichols just shows how little you know about Rovers, in fact it does make you wonder if even watch us play, if you put them in the same bracket. As far as naming players we should sign, what does that actually achieve, do you think TW or JB reads the forum in order to see what players Graceyboy is suggesting they should sign? Regardless hopefully the new management set up as got a longer list than just ex Rovers players/previous targets. I put them in the same bracket of 'non goalscoring strikers' nothing more.. You've made up the rest in your deluded little head Yes, because TWs track record of bringing 'top talent' here has been so, so successful hasn't it? You are completely deluded if you have faith in TW
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Post by LJG on Mar 12, 2021 12:25:38 GMT
Do you really think I choose you to troll? Anyway posted "22 hours ago" is not two days ago, unless you're days are only 12 hours long. Just because Harrison isn't scoring goals doesn't mean his career's "flopped" but you clearly have a better way of judging strikers than either Barton or Jacket. Jesus wept, you're clearly bored so I will indulge you... Ellis did OK for us in an elliot Richards type way. He's carved out a respectable career as a lower league journeyman. Good for him. If it wasn't for him, towards the end of our conference season, we would not have gone straight back up. I thought he was OK for us. We got I believe, 750k for him which was a lot of money when you consider cureton left us for 250k. I believe Ipswich thought they were getting something that Ellis was never going to be and they off loaded him soon after when he flopped for them. Pompey signed him and if you ask their fans about him they will probably say he's a decent squad player but nothing more. I've seen a lot of great strikers at our club over the past 35 years including Randall, white, Penrice, Saunders, Stewart, hayles, cureton, Roberts etc and believe me, hanlan ain't one of them. As stated Ellis was OK but he wasn't one of them either. Maybe you've not followed football or rovers that long and your knowledge is limited and on your limited knowledge you believe that hanlan is decent. Well, I believe that strikers are paid to score goals and if they don't then I expect them to be off loaded. Hanlan, I accept, has been playing up front on his own a lot of the times this season which is tough and leads to a lot of donkey work with little reward goal opportunity wise. However, Ayunga has managed it in the last few games and weighed in with goals. He plays they way a striker must play if up top on his own which is with his back to goal, bringing others from midfield into play by getting them to run on past him, hold the ball up with strength and win headers, all things that hanlan seems unable to do. He's a headless chicken that runs up blind allies and appears to have littke football intelligence about how to play up front on his own. It feels really condescending to have to explain how football works to you topper but with your clearly limited knowledge of the game, is a necessary evil unfortunately. Blimey, talk about having to waste 20 minutes explaining the freaking obvious. Good luck with playing football manager tonight You've compared Hanlan to Nichols. You've compared Ellis to Elliot Richards and you want to bring Alefe Santos back 🤣 I think it's safe to say we fundamentally disagree on what a successful footballer looks like. Also, there's really no need to be so aggressive to people. We can all have different opinions without having "deluded little heads".
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Post by Gashead73 on Mar 12, 2021 13:36:23 GMT
Sammy Nicholson has so far been the stand out player for me, good pace, good dribblin skills and scores some crackers..... I just hope no one comes in for him during the summer, he certainly has the ability to play a higher level of English League Football
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Post by wilmslowgas on Mar 12, 2021 18:24:07 GMT
Nicholson, when on form, is a very good player who can mesmerise opposing defenders. But for me, he has a tendency to disappear for parts of games and thereby nullify his effectiveness. If he could improve his consistency and involvement he could comfortably play Championship football. The test for any competent manager is to get more out of Nicholson because he certainly has the talent.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 12, 2021 22:39:27 GMT
Where you all stand on Tom Davies for next season. See he got another clean sheet plus star man performance for Barrow tonight. 7 Aerial wins (@100%), 5 interceptions ,5 clearances a tackle and a shot that made it onto the highlight clip. I also believe he had the co assist for Barrows winner.
Asking for a friend!
UTG
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 12, 2021 22:50:19 GMT
Perhaps we should try and see out this season first before writing off two thirds of the squad?
I think Harries is worth preservering with as well.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 12, 2021 22:51:19 GMT
Where you all stand on Tom Davies for next season. See he got another clean sheet plus star man performance for Barrow tonight. 7 Aerial wins (@100%), 5 interceptions ,5 clearances a tackle and a shot that made it onto the highlight clip. I also believe he had the co assist for Barrows winner. Asking for a friend! UTG Our best CB imo before his long lay off. Is he still contracted?
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 12, 2021 22:57:37 GMT
Where you all stand on Tom Davies for next season. See he got another clean sheet plus star man performance for Barrow tonight. 7 Aerial wins (@100%), 5 interceptions ,5 clearances a tackle and a shot that made it onto the highlight clip. I also believe he had the co assist for Barrows winner. Asking for a friend! UTG Our best CB imo before his long lay off. Is he still contracted? I believe it’s up in the summer. He was fighting against time to make it in time for the squad submission but They got him out on loan instead.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 12, 2021 22:58:49 GMT
Perhaps we should try and see out this season first before writing off two thirds of the squad? I think Harries is worth preservering with as well. He is still under contract I think as he was signed last January with Barrett and Daly
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Post by graceyboy on Mar 13, 2021 9:58:38 GMT
Jesus wept, you're clearly bored so I will indulge you... Ellis did OK for us in an elliot Richards type way. He's carved out a respectable career as a lower league journeyman. Good for him. If it wasn't for him, towards the end of our conference season, we would not have gone straight back up. I thought he was OK for us. We got I believe, 750k for him which was a lot of money when you consider cureton left us for 250k. I believe Ipswich thought they were getting something that Ellis was never going to be and they off loaded him soon after when he flopped for them. Pompey signed him and if you ask their fans about him they will probably say he's a decent squad player but nothing more. I've seen a lot of great strikers at our club over the past 35 years including Randall, white, Penrice, Saunders, Stewart, hayles, cureton, Roberts etc and believe me, hanlan ain't one of them. As stated Ellis was OK but he wasn't one of them either. Maybe you've not followed football or rovers that long and your knowledge is limited and on your limited knowledge you believe that hanlan is decent. Well, I believe that strikers are paid to score goals and if they don't then I expect them to be off loaded. Hanlan, I accept, has been playing up front on his own a lot of the times this season which is tough and leads to a lot of donkey work with little reward goal opportunity wise. However, Ayunga has managed it in the last few games and weighed in with goals. He plays they way a striker must play if up top on his own which is with his back to goal, bringing others from midfield into play by getting them to run on past him, hold the ball up with strength and win headers, all things that hanlan seems unable to do. He's a headless chicken that runs up blind allies and appears to have littke football intelligence about how to play up front on his own. It feels really condescending to have to explain how football works to you topper but with your clearly limited knowledge of the game, is a necessary evil unfortunately. Blimey, talk about having to waste 20 minutes explaining the freaking obvious. Good luck with playing football manager tonight You've compared Hanlan to Nichols. You've compared Ellis to Elliot Richards and you want to bring Alefe Santos back 🤣 I think it's safe to say we fundamentally disagree on what a successful footballer looks like. Also, there's really no need to be so aggressive to people. We can all have different opinions without having "deluded little heads". Christ.. There are some absolute throbbers on here
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Post by LJG on Mar 13, 2021 11:06:22 GMT
You've compared Hanlan to Nichols. You've compared Ellis to Elliot Richards and you want to bring Alefe Santos back 🤣 I think it's safe to say we fundamentally disagree on what a successful footballer looks like. Also, there's really no need to be so aggressive to people. We can all have different opinions without having "deluded little heads". Christ.. There are some absolute throbbers on here Again, there's really no need to be so aggressive. We can just chat about football.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 13, 2021 11:31:29 GMT
Christ.. There are some absolute throbbers on here Again, there's really no need to be so aggressive. We can just chat about football. He's got a point though hasn't he! 😂
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Post by lpgas1 on Mar 14, 2021 13:53:13 GMT
Where you all stand on Tom Davies for next season. See he got another clean sheet plus star man performance for Barrow tonight. 7 Aerial wins (@100%), 5 interceptions ,5 clearances a tackle and a shot that made it onto the highlight clip. I also believe he had the co assist for Barrows winner. Asking for a friend! UTG Bring him back would be my suggestion cannot be any worse than some of the CH's we have, however I think his contract wil be up this year so no doubt they will move him on, but one of the best CH's we have had in recent years
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Post by wilmslowgas on Mar 14, 2021 14:06:37 GMT
A fit Davies is way better than any of the current four CBs. But that's the issue. Davies needs to be fit and his record has not been great. If he continues to impress at Barrow there may well be a place for him next season if the management can be convinced about his fitness. I still remember the days of Davies and Craig at the back. A lot has changed in the short time since and most of it not good.
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Post by percy on Mar 15, 2021 12:18:00 GMT
Would definitely get Davies back in the squad. We probably need to move out one of the experience CB's. For me, Ehmer is the most disappointing.
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Post by percy on Mar 15, 2021 12:19:52 GMT
Wonder if JB is knocking on Wael's door asking about McCormick. I think he would look at our "box midfield" of Grant, McCormick, Westbrooke and Nicholson as the basis of building a play-off challenge next year. Reckon he could persuade Luke to give us a go for a season rather than sitting on the bench at Millwall.
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