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Post by cockergas on Mar 16, 2021 9:24:54 GMT
? It’s nearly 9.30am and there is no Match Day Thread, is the game still on? I recon we can come back with at least a point here.
We seem to have found a bit of resilience they are in a bit of a slump, clearly the resignation of Bowyer will be a factor. Looking forward to this, already watching the clock, can’t wait for 7pm (wishing my life away) UTG.
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Post by percy on Mar 16, 2021 9:30:15 GMT
finally! Almost started my first matchday thread.
No idea what will happen, if we can keep it tight first 30 mins, I fancy us to nick something. A point or maybe a last minute winner.
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Post by yaz on Mar 16, 2021 9:38:12 GMT
Last n games, it has all been about us NOT taking our chances and other teams scoring with their first / second shots on target?
We missed a hatful of clear chances against Wombles and almost paid for it at the end.
We create chances so it’s all about us to make sure we take our chances! If one goes in the rest will follow? Bit like some mates going into the pub; all waiting for first one to enter to buy the round?
UTG
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Post by rememberhalifax on Mar 16, 2021 9:44:32 GMT
Good on yer Cocker, thought for one minute i was going to have to start thread! there is no logical reason for this but i am supremely confident that we will win tonight, just as i had a feeling we would not beat Wombles, i am convinced we will to-night! Come on Rovers!
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Post by seanclevedongas on Mar 16, 2021 9:48:14 GMT
Much has already been said about our away record v Charlton on other threads with our last victory at The Valley almost 63 years ago to the day.
Our overall record is not too bad and a decade ago would have looked even better but having suffered 5 losses and 3 draws in the last 10 years we now have more defeats than victories
Games won: 22
Games drawn: 19
Games lost: 24
10 Sep 1921 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 4-2 Division Three (South)
17 Sep 1921 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 2-0 Division Three (South)
18 Nov 1922 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers D 0-0 Division Three (South)
25 Nov 1922 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 1-1 Division Three (South)
01 Mar 1924 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers W 1-3 Division Three (South)
08 Mar 1924 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 2-0 Division Three (South)
13 Sep 1924 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 4-0 Division Three (South)
17 Jan 1925 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers D 1-1 Division Three (South)
29 Aug 1925 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers W 0-1 Division Three (South)
06 Apr 1926 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 4-1 Division Three (South)
23 Oct 1926 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 1-1 Division Three (South)
11 Dec 1926 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 4-1 FA Cup
12 Mar 1927 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 3-1 Division Three (South)
15 Oct 1927 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 2-1 Division Three (South)
25 Feb 1928 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 2-1 Division Three (South)
14 Mar 1929 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers W 1-2 Division Three (South)
20 Apr 1929 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 3-0 Division Three (South)
30 Sep 1933 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic L 2-5 Division Three (South)
10 Feb 1934 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 2-1 Division Three (South)
22 Sep 1934 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 0-0 Division Three (South)
02 Feb 1935 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 2-0 Division Three (South)
16 Nov 1957 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 1-0 League Division Two
29 Mar 1958 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers W 2-3 League Division Two
06 Dec 1958 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 4-3 League Division Two
10 Jan 1959 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic L 0-4 FA Cup
25 Apr 1959 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 2-1 League Division Two
26 Aug 1959 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers D 2-2 League Division Two
21 Sep 1959 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 2-2 League Division Two
26 Nov 1960 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 3-1 League Division Two
01 Apr 1961 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 2-1 League Division Two
20 Apr 1962 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 2-2 League Division Two
23 Apr 1962 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 2-1 League Division Two
05 Oct 1971 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 2-1 League Cup
23 Dec 1972 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 2-1 League Division Three
24 Apr 1973 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers D 3-3 League Division Three
01 Sep 1973 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 2-1 League Division Three
01 Jan 1974 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers D 1-1 League Division Three
06 Sep 1975 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 0-0 League Division Two
17 Jan 1976 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 3-0 League Division Two
30 Oct 1976 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 1-1 League Division Two
03 Jan 1977 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 4-3 League Division Two
30 Sep 1977 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 3-1 League Division Two
25 Feb 1978 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 2-2 League Division Two
26 Aug 1978 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 3-0 League Division Two
18 Nov 1978 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 5-5 League Division Two
05 Feb 1979 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 1-0 FA Cup
20 Oct 1979 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 3-0 League Division Two
01 Mar 1980 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 4-0 League Division Two
01 Sep 1990 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 2-1 League Division Two
12 Jan 1991 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers D 2-2 League Division Two
12 Oct 1991 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 1-0 League Division Two
02 May 1992 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 1-0 League Division Two
25 Aug 1992 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 4-1 League Division 1
27 Jan 1993 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic L 0-2 League Division 1
24 Nov 2009 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 4-2 League One
15 Feb 2010 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic W 2-1 League One
23 Nov 2010 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers D 1-1 League One
23 Apr 2011 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 2-2 League One
22 Nov 2016 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic L 1-5 League One
02 Jan 2017 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 4-1 League One
05 Aug 2017 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 1-0 League One
07 Apr 2018 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 1-1 League One
24 Nov 2018 Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers L 3-1 League One
16 Mar 2019 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic D 0-0 League One
16 Jan 2021 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic L 0-1 League One
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Post by percy on Mar 16, 2021 9:49:31 GMT
Team for me, keep back 3 together. Either Nicholson moves to RWB, or give Hare a chance.
Day
Williams Kilgour Baldwin
Nicholson McCormick Upson Leahy
Westbrooke Walker
Ayunga
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 16, 2021 10:04:50 GMT
Too important a game to start with Walker. Hopefully Rodman will be fit but otherwise start with hanlan and Ayunga up front.
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Post by percy on Mar 16, 2021 10:08:58 GMT
Daly for Walker then, but Hanlan needs a full weeks rest in my view.
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Post by hardingegas on Mar 16, 2021 10:26:28 GMT
Keep the back three as they seem to have built up an understanding - at last.
Hare seems to have slipped down the pecking order under the last two managers - could Hargreaves do a job as RWB? I'd rather keep Nicholson in his usual position.
Day
Williams Kilgour Baldwin
Hargreaves Upson McCormick Leahy
Westbrooke Nicholson
Ayunga
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 16, 2021 10:33:52 GMT
Much has already been said about our away record v Charlton on other threads with our last victory at The Valley almost 63 years ago to the day. Our overall record is not too bad and a decade ago would have looked even better but having suffered 5 losses and 3 draws in the last 10 years we now have more defeats than victories Tbf how many ‘big grounds/big clubs’ have we won at in the league since the 3-2 at St.Mary’s in 2009? Ipswich under Cogs. The end?! |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 16, 2021 10:42:54 GMT
Was fearful of this one.. too many physically big players against our back 3... the whole Stockley was going to come here etc
Then I watched these highlights:
Shrewsbury carved out a load of really good chances... we are good at that... if we can improve our goal efficiency then I reckon we could hold out for a point or 3. The hardest part is whether we have the legs left for the endless pressing (Upson looked a bit tired at the 80min mark and Rodders limped off)
They way I see it we have 3 options if Rodders is injured and if we are going to stick to the 3-4-2-1 formation:
Ehmer comes in at RCB - Williams to RWB
Harries comes in at LCB - Baldwin to RCB and Williams to RWB
Replace Rodders with Hare and keep the team the same (somewhat unlikely as he has not made the benches recently)
I have seen and played out the whole Nicholson at RWB but I think he is most dangerous up the other end of the pitch, similar to Westy.
I think 1-1 or 0-1 to the Gas. We will need to be excellent at set pieces and those individual battles Kilgour vs Stockley or Baldwin vs Chuks for example are going to me key along with the press.
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Post by baggins on Mar 16, 2021 10:56:46 GMT
If we'd have won against Wimbledon I'd say yes, no problem getting a point, or even sneak a win, but we didn't and unfortunately I can't see anything other than a loss. More than happy to be proved wrong by a great performance and 3 points.
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Post by percy on Mar 16, 2021 11:00:53 GMT
Was fearful of this one.. too many physically big players against our back 3... the whole Stockley was going to come here etc Then I watched these highlights: Shrewsbury carved out a load of really good chances... we are good at that... if we can improve our goal efficiency then I reckon we could hold out for a point or 3. The hardest part is whether we have the legs left for the endless pressing (Upson looked a bit tired at the 80min mark and Rodders limped off) They way I see it we have 3 options if Rodders is injured and if we are going to stick to the 3-4-2-1 formation: Ehmer comes in at RCB - Williams to RWB Harries comes in at LCB - Baldwin to RCB and Williams to RWB Replace Rodders with Hare and keep the team the same (somewhat unlikely as he has not made the benches recently) I have seen and played out the whole Nicholson at RWB but I think he is most dangerous up the other end of the pitch, similar to Westy. I think 1-1 or 0-1 to the Gas. We will need to be excellent at set pieces and those individual battles Kilgour vs Stockley or Baldwin vs Chuks for example are going to me key along with the press. I think messing around with the back 3 against a side with so many strong forwards is the riskiest option. Not ideal for Nicholson to be RWB, but would love to see him running from wide positions again more than he has recently as a 10 or 2nd striker. Hare must not be Joey's kind of player. |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 16, 2021 11:03:52 GMT
Was fearful of this one.. too many physically big players against our back 3... the whole Stockley was going to come here etc Then I watched these highlights: Shrewsbury carved out a load of really good chances... we are good at that... if we can improve our goal efficiency then I reckon we could hold out for a point or 3. The hardest part is whether we have the legs left for the endless pressing (Upson looked a bit tired at the 80min mark and Rodders limped off) They way I see it we have 3 options if Rodders is injured and if we are going to stick to the 3-4-2-1 formation: Ehmer comes in at RCB - Williams to RWB Harries comes in at LCB - Baldwin to RCB and Williams to RWB Replace Rodders with Hare and keep the team the same (somewhat unlikely as he has not made the benches recently) I have seen and played out the whole Nicholson at RWB but I think he is most dangerous up the other end of the pitch, similar to Westy. I think 1-1 or 0-1 to the Gas. We will need to be excellent at set pieces and those individual battles Kilgour vs Stockley or Baldwin vs Chuks for example are going to me key along with the press. I think messing around with the back 3 against a side with so many strong forwards is the riskiest option. Not ideal for Nicholson to be RWB, but would love to see him running from wide positions again more than he has recently as a 10 or 2nd striker. Hare must not be Joey's kind of player. I could warm to the Nicholson at RWB for your reasons for sure. Daly or Hanlan could do a job in the vacated position or we could go 3-4-1-2 i suppose |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 11:05:00 GMT
We lost all our attacking edge on Saturday when Hanlan came on ... stumbling around, throwing himself to the ground again, little if any close control so I would leave him on the bench at best.
Sadly Upson was back to his old lazy ways but there is little alternative given injuries.
Take our chances we win -- Big Jonah to score tonight!!
Away Win!!
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Post by axegas on Mar 16, 2021 11:13:03 GMT
I’d take a draw tonight in what looks to be a tough game on paper. A win to bury this 1958 statistic would be marvellous.
Would like to see what a partnership of Ayunga and Daly could do. A tenacious Daly could put Charlton defenders under pressure when they have the ball and use his pace when we counter.
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Post by CrispPusher on Mar 16, 2021 11:17:32 GMT
If Westbrooke is taken off corner duty and we can sneak a point I'd be a very happy man. UTG
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 16, 2021 11:24:44 GMT
? It’s nearly 9.30am and there is no Match Day Thread, is the game still on? I recon we can come back with at least a point here. We seem to have found a bit of resilience they are in a bit of a slump, clearly the resignation of Bowyer will be a factor. Looking forward to this, already watching the clock, can’t wait for 7pm (wishing my life away) UTG. Hopefully we will all be cockerhoop at 9pm this evening 😉 |
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Post by bluestone on Mar 16, 2021 11:56:21 GMT
Shame that Hare seems out of favour as he's got a killer cross in him and I reckon he'd take better corners and free kicks than Westbrook. That said he's not a strong defensively as Rodders so this might not be the game for him, I would put Williams at RWB and bring Ehmer or Harries into the back 3.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 16, 2021 11:58:20 GMT
As it stands, you can get:
Charlton to win: 19/20.
Draw: 12/5.
Rovers to win: 3/1.
I think that's decent odds for us to get something out of the match, considering the recent upheaval with the host club.
Maybe the best time to play them.
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