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Post by piratejames on Apr 20, 2021 20:29:59 GMT
I’d you don’t have one then your entitled to your view and opinion but do not slate anyone that backs the current regime then Ahhh but its okay for people to slate me for having a view and opinion? Gotcha. Your not leaving any room or quite frankly any reason for anyone to discuss with you, you’ve slated anyone that doesn’t agree with you, if you put forward a point of how you’d gone about it, and you’d go forward from here in detail then fair enough but all it’s is, is Barton out 😂
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 20, 2021 20:30:05 GMT
So if the plumber floods my kitchen, I just make him a cuppa and pay up? I’d personally wonder who fitted it in the first place? Another sh** plumber who I just made a tea and paid in full because I'm not allowed to criticize unless I know how to fix it. It's a living nightmare I tell you.
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BARTON OUT
Apr 20, 2021 20:31:00 GMT
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Post by oldie on Apr 20, 2021 20:31:00 GMT
So if the plumber floods my kitchen, I just make him a cuppa and pay up? I’d personally wonder who fitted it in the first place? Brilliant Sit there wondering whilst the kitchen floors.
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BARTON OUT
Apr 20, 2021 20:31:03 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 20, 2021 20:31:03 GMT
Ahhh but its okay for people to slate me for having a view and opinion? Gotcha. Your not leaving any room or quite frankly any reason for anyone to discuss with you, you’ve slated anyone that doesn’t agree with you, if you put forward a point of how you’d gone about it, and you’d go forward from here in detail then fair enough but all it’s is, is Barton out 😂 Thats because RD shags bears.
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Post by piratejames on Apr 20, 2021 20:31:13 GMT
But if your gonna criticise something you have to give a solution otherwise it’s empty, surely that’s obvious? Of course Change the service provider. Simple really Or change the equipment you have as the last 2 service providers haven’t worked either
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Post by RD on Apr 20, 2021 20:31:15 GMT
Ahhh but its okay for people to slate me for having a view and opinion? Gotcha. Your not leaving any room or quite frankly any reason for anyone to discuss with you, you’ve slated anyone that doesn’t agree with you, if you put forward a point of how you’d gone about it, and you’d go forward from here in detail then fair enough but all it’s is, is Barton out 😂 You obviously can't read. I've made many, many reasoned posts explaining the rationale. So your post is complete nonsense. Like your maths.
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Post by piratejames on Apr 20, 2021 20:33:06 GMT
I’d personally wonder who fitted it in the first place? Another sh** plumber who I just made a tea and paid in full because I'm not allowed to criticize unless I know how to fix it. It's a living nightmare I tell you. Stop clogging the toilet then! 😂 On a serious note, I’m more than happy to have a discussion on whether Barton is right or not but it has to be constructive, not just Barton out, can’t just sack a manager every time we start doing badly, we’d have more managers than games played
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Post by piratejames on Apr 20, 2021 20:33:34 GMT
Your not leaving any room or quite frankly any reason for anyone to discuss with you, you’ve slated anyone that doesn’t agree with you, if you put forward a point of how you’d gone about it, and you’d go forward from here in detail then fair enough but all it’s is, is Barton out 😂 You obviously can't read. I've made many, many reasoned posts explaining the rationale. So your post is complete nonsense. Like your maths. [br Attack the post and not the poster 😂
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 20, 2021 20:36:10 GMT
It's all very well having this argument but who actually believes that having paid off two managers already we are going to sack another. Perhaps we could get rid but keep both the coaches he brought with him and add them to the already bloated back room team. At some point we have to stick with a manager, Barton has obviously been brought in firstly to try and keep us up (granted that part has been a failure) but also to rebuild. As I see it Wael has put his faith in Barton and unless he walks or the court case goes against him he'll be in charge come Aug.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 20, 2021 20:36:25 GMT
But if your gonna criticise something you have to give a solution otherwise it’s empty, surely that’s obvious? So if the plumber floods my kitchen, I just make him a cuppa and pay up? I had this last year. I had a plumber come to do some work moving some pipework and he pulled the floorboards up to find the previous plumbers had hammered down some lead pipe and it was watering water all over the place. He tried to sort it out, but he made the situation worse. It was clear that the pipework was unsalvageable and poisonous to boot. I had to deal with it watering out water for a fortnight but he came back and swapped it all out for new pipework all the way back to the entry point into the property. It cost a fortune but the leak wasn't his fault and was all down to an antiquated setup and previous trades cutting corners because I wasn't willing to pay out to get it done properly (although perhaps I would have, as I wasn't even given the options). Eventually I dug a big hole out to the street and got Bristol Water to swap it all out for a modern MDPE plastic pipe. Now I'm in the premier league of pipework. I know enough about plumbing now to know the f**ker overcharged me and that I could have done it all myself but the point is that sometimes the situation is so sh** someone qualified can't do f**k all with it other than make a mess of it. Case in point, step up Mr Clarke.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Apr 20, 2021 20:37:49 GMT
But.... this was supposed to be our time in the sun...
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 20, 2021 20:38:23 GMT
Another sh** plumber who I just made a tea and paid in full because I'm not allowed to criticize unless I know how to fix it. It's a living nightmare I tell you. Stop clogging the toilet then! 😂 On a serious note, I’m more than happy to have a discussion on whether Barton is right or not but it has to be constructive, not just Barton out, can’t just sack a manager every time we start doing badly, we’d have more managers than games played Yeah, I dont disagree. I think that there are a lot of heated fans and the polarisation that Barton brings isnt helpful. I was a Barton fan, but some of the things he has said and done are both bizarre and disgusting and completely unnecessary. I don't think you can judge his results directly against 2 managers who had windows but as much as I didnt like Garnerspeak and even less Tisdales waffle, both were at least respectful and professional. It's not the performances on the pitch that is making my support for him waiver, it's his conduct off it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 20, 2021 20:39:07 GMT
But if your gonna criticise something you have to give a solution otherwise it’s empty, surely that’s obvious? I have a solution. Sack Barton Appoint a competent football manager JB's proven in the past, by Rovers (low) standards that he is a competent manager, if we sack him the chances are we're not going to appoint a replacement who had his team in last season's L1 play offs. It's not like our BoD have an history of appointing decent managers.
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Post by piratejames on Apr 20, 2021 20:39:18 GMT
So if the plumber floods my kitchen, I just make him a cuppa and pay up? I had this last year. I had a plumber come to do some work moving some pipework and he pulled the floorboards up to find the previous plumbers had hammered down some lead pipe and it was P?!sing water all over the place. He tried to sort it out, but he made the situation worse. It was clear that the pipework was unsalvageable and poisonous to boot. I had to deal with it P?!sing out water for a fortnight but he came back and swapped it all out for new pipework all the way back to the entry point into the property. It cost a fortune but the leak wasn't his fault and was all down to an antiquated setup and previous trades cutting corners because I wasn't willing to pay out to get it done properly (although perhaps I would have, as I wasn't even given the options). Eventually I dug a big hole out to the street and got Bristol Water to swap it all out for a modern MDPE plastic pipe. Now I'm in the premier league of pipework. I know enough about plumbing now to know the f**ker overcharged me and that I could have done it all myself but the point is that sometimes the situation is so sh** someone qualified can't do f**k all with it other than make a mess of it. Case in point, step up Mr Clarke. I get where your going with this but you’ve not allowed this plumber to bring in his own tools to fix the problem have you? I’d suggest you let him do that before telling him he hasn’t got a clue
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Post by RD on Apr 20, 2021 20:40:03 GMT
You obviously can't read. I've made many, many reasoned posts explaining the rationale. So your post is complete nonsense. Like your maths. [br Attack the post and not the poster 😂 No, you're right - I apologise. I pulled this thread up as I took a LOT of abuse (including threatening PMs) for having an opinion. Something many did with Garner, Tisdale and many before them. It seems that it's not okay for many when it comes to Barton. It's almost a Trump-esque situation where to many of his supporters you cannot say a single bad word. So yes, I bought this thread up as, after the abuse I had taken, I felt a little vindicated. I probably shouldn't have done that, but am hurting and angry like all of us. So let's all try and cut out the personal remarks, cut through the emotion and try and have a sensible, reasoned debate about this - if possible.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 20, 2021 20:41:44 GMT
Barton: "When I came down and Tommy Widdrington showed me the board I said to him there's not a player on that board I'd take in at Fleetwood. Not one. Not even in a back-up capacity because we were trying to push on out of the division". Really clever stuff to say right before our do or die game of the season. Good. This means if he is still here we won't see the same sh**e next season
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 20, 2021 20:41:45 GMT
I had this last year. I had a plumber come to do some work moving some pipework and he pulled the floorboards up to find the previous plumbers had hammered down some lead pipe and it was P?!sing water all over the place. He tried to sort it out, but he made the situation worse. It was clear that the pipework was unsalvageable and poisonous to boot. I had to deal with it P?!sing out water for a fortnight but he came back and swapped it all out for new pipework all the way back to the entry point into the property. It cost a fortune but the leak wasn't his fault and was all down to an antiquated setup and previous trades cutting corners because I wasn't willing to pay out to get it done properly (although perhaps I would have, as I wasn't even given the options). Eventually I dug a big hole out to the street and got Bristol Water to swap it all out for a modern MDPE plastic pipe. Now I'm in the premier league of pipework. I know enough about plumbing now to know the f**ker overcharged me and that I could have done it all myself but the point is that sometimes the situation is so sh** someone qualified can't do f**k all with it other than make a mess of it. Case in point, step up Mr Clarke. I get where your going with this but you’ve not allowed this plumber to bring in his own tools to fix the problem have you? I’d suggest you let him do that before telling him he hasn’t got a clue Make no mistake about it Joey is my chosen plumber even if the f**ker is going to overcharge me for it.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Apr 20, 2021 20:42:09 GMT
C&S Plumbing and Heating Services Limited Mr Stephen Pellett
Downend, Bristol, Avon (186 Reviews)
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Post by piratejames on Apr 20, 2021 20:42:33 GMT
Stop clogging the toilet then! 😂 On a serious note, I’m more than happy to have a discussion on whether Barton is right or not but it has to be constructive, not just Barton out, can’t just sack a manager every time we start doing badly, we’d have more managers than games played Yeah, I dont disagree. I think that there are a lot of heated fans and the polarisation that Barton brings isnt helpful. I was a Barton fan, but some of the things he has said and done are both bizarre and disgusting and completely unnecessary. I don't think you can judge his results directly against 2 managers who had windows but as much as I didnt like Garnerspeak and even less Tisdales waffle, both were at least respectful and professional. It's not the performances on the pitch that is making my support for him waiver, it's his conduct off it. I see what your saying, but I think the comments he’s said on the club and it’s pervious managerial regimes means personally he cares, if the players haven’t been trained properly and the club hasn’t been run properly then wouldn’t you like to know, maybe he is wrong and he isn’t running it properly as well , but the main point is he’s been in the job for 6-8 weeks, give the bloke time, and then we can judge it from there
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 20, 2021 20:42:46 GMT
C&S Plumbing and Heating Services Limited Mr Stephen Pellett Downend, Bristol, Avon (186 Reviews) Round the corner wish I'd gone with him.
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