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Post by stuartcampbell on Apr 10, 2021 21:42:21 GMT
Whether we are relegated at the end of the season or not, it's very clear a major revamp in the squad is needed, that being said; what are people's thoughts on who should be kept? I'll give a template and people put Keep or get rid or perhaps unsure. (although most players' circumstances will be dependent on contracts, suppose for this anyone can be let go).
Jordi Van Stappershoef: Mark Little: Luke Leahy: Josh Grant: Max Ehmer: Ed Upson: Ben Liddle: Zain Westbrooke: Brandon Hanlan: Sam Nicholson: Joe Day (as on loan, should we sign or not sign?): Luke McCormick (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Alfie Kilgour: James Daly: Cameron Hargreaves: Jonah Ayunga: Josh Hare: Tom Mehew: David Tutonda: Cian Harries: Jack Baldwin: Anssi Jaakkola: Alex Rodman: Pablo Martinez: Zain walker: Josh Barrett: Erhun Oztumer (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Abu Ogogo: George Williams: Ali Koiki:
Interested to know people's thoughts
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Post by Gassy on Apr 10, 2021 21:45:09 GMT
I think it’s sadly too easy to say keep/clear - we need the full list of who’s under contract for next season first. Been posted a few times here though, so won’t be long.
But I worry about clearing out many of the team who have 2+ year deals
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Post by alanrg on Apr 10, 2021 21:59:59 GMT
There are I think 12 out of contract the following I believe will be released JVS Little Upson Bennett Ogogo Hare I would offer contracts to Rodman and Leahy not sure who the other 4 are
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Post by brfc on Apr 10, 2021 23:40:16 GMT
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Post by stevek192 on Apr 11, 2021 0:01:42 GMT
Jordi Van Stappershoef: Get rid Mark Little: Get rid Luke Leahy: Keep Josh Grant: Keep Max Ehmer: Transfer list Ed Upson: Get rid Ben Liddle: Get rid Zain Westbrooke: Keep Brandon Hanlan: Keep Sam Nicholson: Keep Joe Day (as on loan, should we sign or not sign?): Don't sign Luke McCormick (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Sign Alfie Kilgour: Keep James Daly: Keep Cameron Hargreaves: Get rid Jonah Ayunga: Keep Josh Hare: Get rid Tom Mehew: Get rid David Tutonda: Get rid Cian Harries: Keep Jack Baldwin: Not sure Anssi Jaakkola: Keep Alex Rodman: Get rid Pablo Martinez: Keep Zain walker: Not sure Josh Barrett: Keep Erhun Oztumer (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Don't sign Abu Ogogo: Get rid George Williams: Keep Ali Koiki: Not sure
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Post by Icegas on Apr 11, 2021 2:38:26 GMT
Jordi Van Stappershoef: Get rid Mark Little: Get rid Luke Leahy: Keep Josh Grant: Keep Max Ehmer: Transfer list Ed Upson: Get rid Ben Liddle: Get rid Zain Westbrooke: Keep Brandon Hanlan: Keep Sam Nicholson: Keep Joe Day (as on loan, should we sign or not sign?): Don't sign Luke McCormick (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Sign Alfie Kilgour: Keep James Daly: Keep Cameron Hargreaves: Get rid Jonah Ayunga: Keep Josh Hare: Get rid Tom Mehew: Get rid David Tutonda: Get rid Cian Harries: Keep Jack Baldwin: Not sure Anssi Jaakkola: Keep Alex Rodman: Get rid Pablo Martinez: Keep Zain walker: Not sure Josh Barrett: Keep Erhun Oztumer (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Don't sign Abu Ogogo: Get rid George Williams: Keep Ali Koiki: Not sure How do you want to get rid of Rodman? yet keep Barrett? 😂😂♥️
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Post by baggins on Apr 11, 2021 5:18:05 GMT
Jordi Van Stappershoef: Get rid Mark Little: Get rid Luke Leahy: Keep Josh Grant: Keep Max Ehmer: Transfer list Ed Upson: Get rid Ben Liddle: Get rid Zain Westbrooke: Keep Brandon Hanlan: Keep Sam Nicholson: Keep Joe Day (as on loan, should we sign or not sign?): Don't sign Luke McCormick (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Sign Alfie Kilgour: Keep James Daly: Keep Cameron Hargreaves: Get rid Jonah Ayunga: Keep Josh Hare: Get rid Tom Mehew: Get rid David Tutonda: Get rid Cian Harries: Keep Jack Baldwin: Not sure Anssi Jaakkola: Keep Alex Rodman: Get rid Pablo Martinez: Keep Zain walker: Not sure Josh Barrett: Keep Erhun Oztumer (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Don't sign Abu Ogogo: Get rid George Williams: Keep Ali Koiki: Not sure How do you want to get rid of Rodman? yet keep Barrett? 😂😂♥️ Hanlan, Ayunga, Grant, can all go as well.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 11, 2021 6:31:00 GMT
I think it’s sadly too easy to say keep/clear - we need the full list of who’s under contract for next season first. Been posted a few times here though, so won’t be long. But I worry about clearing out many of the team who have 2+ year deals Agree, we see many posts saying get rid of this player and that player but in reality, moving on players under contract is not easy and at best, we maybe able to move on one or two. Others maybe out on loan but we would end up paying at least some of their wages. Then you have players out of contract like Rodman who most of us believe deserve an extension but can you afford to offer him one if there are only so many new players we can bring in?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 11, 2021 6:38:12 GMT
Luke Leahy: Zain Westbrooke: Brandon Hanlan: Sam Nicholson: Alfie Kilgour: Jonah Ayunga: Anssi Jaakkola: Alex Rodman: Pablo Martinez: Zain walker:
Keep.
No chance we will get Macca and a good chance we will lose Jakkola and Nicholson when relegated.
Tutonda and Daly I'm not sure about.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 11, 2021 6:44:31 GMT
I think it’s sadly too easy to say keep/clear - we need the full list of who’s under contract for next season first. Been posted a few times here though, so won’t be long. But I worry about clearing out many of the team who have 2+ year deals Agree, we see many posts saying get rid of this player and that player but in reality, moving on players under contract is not easy and at best, we maybe able to move on one or two. Others maybe out on loan but we would end up paying at least some of their wages. Then you have players out of contract like Rodman who most of us believe deserve an extension but can you afford to offer him one if there are only so many new players we can bring in? It's just a paper exercise. It's very harsh as they are all human beings who have tried their best for the most part but sadly most have fallen short of being good enough for L1 football. Its possible that individually they are not awful but whoever is responsible for assembling this squad has spectacularly failed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 7:17:36 GMT
Whether we are relegated at the end of the season or not, it's very clear a major revamp in the squad is needed, that being said; what are people's thoughts on who should be kept? I'll give a template and people put Keep or get rid or perhaps unsure. (although most players' circumstances will be dependent on contracts, suppose for this anyone can be let go). Jordi Van Stappershoef: Mark Little: Luke Leahy: Josh Grant: Max Ehmer: Ed Upson: Ben Liddle: Zain Westbrooke: Brandon Hanlan: Sam Nicholson: Joe Day (as on loan, should we sign or not sign?): Luke McCormick (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Alfie Kilgour: James Daly: Cameron Hargreaves: Jonah Ayunga: Josh Hare: Tom Mehew: David Tutonda: Cian Harries: Jack Baldwin: Anssi Jaakkola: Alex Rodman: Pablo Martinez: Zain walker: Josh Barrett: Erhun Oztumer (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Abu Ogogo: George Williams: Ali Koiki: Interested to know people's thoughts I think JB will sort this lot out and hopefully Wael will sort out the likes of TW,MS etc.
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Post by bluebiro on Apr 11, 2021 7:22:44 GMT
I dont think a goalscoring left back captain out of contract like leahy will be short of offers. If the salary post is true then I cant see him signing a new one if he could at least treble it with another team and not having to ply his trade in div 2.
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Post by stevek192 on Apr 11, 2021 8:06:06 GMT
Icegas, Rodman is 34 and very injury/illness prone.Can we really afford to take a chance on him? Barratt is young and on a contract so we will have little choice.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Apr 11, 2021 8:09:45 GMT
to say we need a squad clear out is great on paper. couple of things to think about Who is still under contract? Who is going to want to buy any of them? Can we keep any of the few that are any good? You dont just put a whole new team together at the start of a season and expect them to play well as a team, we've just witnessed that this season. Players need time with each other. I certainly won't be expecting a bounce back to league one automatically, we'll be slumbering around down there for a couple of years, these were our glory years, or as JB like to call it "our time in the sun"
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 11, 2021 8:14:29 GMT
Icegas, Rodman is 34 and very injury/illness prone.Can we really afford to take a chance on him? Barratt is young and on a contract so we will have little choice. I think one of us has missed the point then, because if you are only saying keep Barrett because he is on a contract then that makes this thread kinda redundant. Barrett has been poor in the few appearances I've seen him have this season and still looks overweight and unfit for a professional footballer, (he is by no means overweight, but is for a footballer)
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Apr 11, 2021 8:17:06 GMT
Icegas, Rodman is 34 and very injury/illness prone.Can we really afford to take a chance on him? Barratt is young and on a contract so we will have little choice. I think one of us has missed the point then, because if you are only saying keep Barrett because he is on a contract then that makes this thread kinda redundant. Barrett has been poor in the few appearances I've seen him have this season and still looks overweight and unfit for a professional footballer, (he is by no means overweight, but is for a footballer)
You just know someone is going to create a thread named "body shaming" And talk about mental health?
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Post by Colyton Gas on Apr 11, 2021 8:17:12 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 11, 2021 8:19:24 GMT
I think one of us has missed the point then, because if you are only saying keep Barrett because he is on a contract then that makes this thread kinda redundant. Barrett has been poor in the few appearances I've seen him have this season and still looks overweight and unfit for a professional footballer, (he is by no means overweight, but is for a footballer)
You just know someone is going to create a thread named "body shaming" And talk about mental health? lol, yeah probably.
For the record I would love to look as good as Barrett.
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Post by 4d on Apr 11, 2021 8:20:16 GMT
Jordi Van Stappershoef: get rid Mark Little: get rid Luke Leahy:keep Josh Grant: keep Max Ehmer: Keep Ed Upson: get rid Ben Liddle: keep Zain Westbrooke: Keep Brandon Hanlan: Keep Sam Nicholson: keep Joe Day (as on loan, should we sign or not sign?): Get rid Luke McCormick (as on loan, sign or not sign?): Sign Alfie Kilgour:keep James Daly: keep Cameron Hargreaves:keep Jonah Ayunga:keep Josh Hare: get rid Tom Mehew: keep David Tutonda:get rid Cian Harries:keep Jack Baldwin: keep Anssi Jaakkola: keep Alex Rodman: get rid Pablo Martinez: keep Zain walker:keep Josh Barrett:Give summer to get fit or get rid Erhun Oztumer (as on loan, sign or not sign?):Get rid Abu Ogogo:get rid George Williams:keep Ali Koiki:Keep
I make that 9/10 out including some very high wage earners. Replace with 4/5 quality proven players for whatever league we are in and we’ll be a real force. Obviously some of those I’ve said keep we prob won’t be able to so will mean a few more coming in.
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Post by madridgas on Apr 11, 2021 8:38:24 GMT
Naming no names, but I think that some of the players who are still under contract next year, may be good enough, at least as squad players in Div 2 (if that is where we land) for us. I am basing thish on the fact players that have not "shined" for us, have had decent seasons or at least been regular starters in league 2.
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