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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 11:17:13 GMT
I don't know how much it costs the club to run the academy. Rovers get nearly £500,000 from the Premiership as a contribution towards academy running costs but this allows premier club to sign academy plays on the cheap and is aimed at just covering players development costs. That's why promising youngsters are often offered pro terms earlier than otherwise. Our academy receives less than some other league 1 clubs and that probably reflects how much we spend on it and the category of academy run. www.premierleague.com/news/1939288Seems to me our academy is not as productive as some and that issues needs to be part of the end of season review.
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Post by pirate on Apr 29, 2021 22:49:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 23:21:40 GMT
The standard of our academy is actually poor in comparison to a lot of the clubs in the local area currently. I’d argue a lot more investment is needed to bring it on par with others. Even forest green have a better academy system I’d argue. Other than Alfie there’s been little to no players of our own actually come through most have been snapped up from elsewhere.
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Post by stevek192 on Apr 29, 2021 23:38:31 GMT
Ollie Clarke was dreadful last season and Kilgour has been this season. We do not need more of this type of player. We need a Manager like Barton who knows what he is doing and brings inm players to form the spine of the team and then we may also see the best of the players we have. Certainly wouldn't expect him to bring any ex players back and rightly so. Even in League 2 we need better players not worst. I havent seen that Ollie Clarke has set League 2 alight this season and the only player I wouldnt mind back is Liam Sercombe but have a feeling that JB will bring some good players in.
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Post by Westy on Apr 29, 2021 23:51:59 GMT
Did Picasso paint that? More grainy than a bloody paddy field 😅
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Post by Westy on Apr 29, 2021 23:53:18 GMT
Indeed far too many criticised Ollie last season but we have certainly missed him. We have only missed him because his replacements have been even worse. If we want to be an average at best L1 side then O Clarke is a good player. TBF we could of done with being an average L1 side this season..
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 30, 2021 9:03:09 GMT
Build a pub on every corner ....fck yeah
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 14:18:15 GMT
I could write war on peace on this subject, but I wont. There are two answers to this its very Black and White, no grey areas here.
Answer One.
In its current format, absolutely bin it. I wish most supporters could see what actually happens in the academy as it is currently run. I am not blaming all the Academy staff, because there are some excellent coaches there. (and have been as I have said many times on this forum). The processes that are in place, the Facilities, the Academy Coaching program, Scouting network, Strength and Conditioning, Training sessions, Equipment, some of the part timers, I could go on are not fit for purpose.
Answer Two.
100% keep the Academy as it will if run properly, with the right investment and address the above will provide rich rewards in Players, Coaches, and future revenue. The talent that Rovers are missing in all age groups from U7's to the Reserve's is incredible. (They lack everything needed).
Ultimately it is up to Wael were he sees best to spend the money that is available. You get what you pay for!!!!!!!!!!
From a business prospective, if you are looking for an Short to Medium term exit strategy, that would involve getting the Club as high as you can and sell for a profit. If you are in it for the long term then invest into the framework of the business for a growth and success by building the foundation from the ground up.
It will only become great if you have a product coupled with a desire and a want to succeed. It comes down to pound notes today, or more pound notes tomorrow.
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Post by lpgas1 on May 1, 2021 18:56:21 GMT
I’ve said it before - Ollie Clarke should have stayed He was sold a “dream move” by GC and we all know where GC went ....leaving the player with a club north of Nottingham ...not sure how he feels personally I hasten to add. As I’ve said before if I was JB I would get him back “ where he belongs.” Let’s face it BG was never a good match for Ollie...hence he moved on. We miss his tenacity and drive. UTG Like some of the others he was told by Garner that he was not required
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Post by pirate on May 1, 2021 19:15:26 GMT
I’ve said it before - Ollie Clarke should have stayed He was sold a “dream move” by GC and we all know where GC went ....leaving the player with a club north of Nottingham ...not sure how he feels personally I hasten to add. As I’ve said before if I was JB I would get him back “ where he belongs.” Let’s face it BG was never a good match for Ollie...hence he moved on. We miss his tenacity and drive. UTG Like some of the others he was told by Garner that he was not required Ebou Adams would have been a decent central midfield player to bring in last summer, but the board didn't manage to get it done. Similarly they didn't sanction the move for 20 goal Piggott in the summer and collectively failed to add a striker in January. Disastrous from those in charge.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 1, 2021 19:18:33 GMT
I’ve said it before - Ollie Clarke should have stayed He was sold a “dream move” by GC and we all know where GC went ....leaving the player with a club north of Nottingham ...not sure how he feels personally I hasten to add. As I’ve said before if I was JB I would get him back “ where he belongs.” Let’s face it BG was never a good match for Ollie...hence he moved on. We miss his tenacity and drive. UTG Like some of the others he was told by Garner that he was not required OC was offered a 1 year contract with a testimonial by BG but turned that down when GC came in with a 2 year contract.
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Post by pirate on May 5, 2021 11:14:26 GMT
Looks like we are losing our better youngsters for peanuts just like Brentford used to.
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