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Post by clockendgas on Jul 12, 2021 18:19:12 GMT
Anyway looking forward, who’s coming to Qatar next year?! can i stay with you? im fully house trained.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jul 12, 2021 18:24:12 GMT
Well it seems there are lots of opinions out there on everything from Southgate to Fans behaviour, to much to troll through and being of mature years i can handle these disappointments much better than i would have years ago. I can understand the disappointment a lot are feeling today but i don't understand the abuse aimed at players ,what ever there colour or at the manager. Without going into detail, as others have covered the subject very well, i do not believe we will ever host a major tournament again as long as we continue to tolerate and accept that its ok for followers of football( can't call them fans') to behave in the manner seen at Wembley recently and in a wider sense at grounds up and down the country during the seasons. As for last nights game it is easy to forget what a truly great goal the opener was by England, brilliant counter attack with pace, skill ,vision finished with aplomb! that first 20 mins i thought we had the measure of Italy but for some reason we stopped playing on the front foot, sitting deeper and deeper and from the moment of the equalizer there was only going to be one winner .We have seen it happen at the Mem enough times and i can't explain what happens to the mindset of players which turns them from confident attack minded footballers to frightened Rabbits. I do not think Italy were that great, they started the Euro's very impressively but seemed to revert to type the further they went and by the final were solid, uncompromising, skilled in the dark arts, and to streetwise for England. I said after prev rounds that G/S had got all the calls right thus far and he would hold favour till he got one wrong, the opinion seems to be that he got it wrong last night but even if you agree with that view surely he has enough credit balance to warrant the support of fans as we look to the next world cup? I like most others thought the choice of Pen takers was strange but on reflection the decision could not have been spur of the moment and must have been based on ' training ground ' performances , it goes to show that it is impossible to replicate ' big match conditions' on the training ground no matter what you do. I feel for the lads who missed, Rashford's was an inch away from being perfect though i think the 'stuttered ' run ups are stupid, and he has smashed home penalties before without the need of such drama, lessons learned i hope. and while we are on the subject , what a penalty by Maguire! Manse 2! In conclusion i think we missed a great opportunity but its over and on we go to the desert! hopefully with fans fully behind manager and ALL the players, one thing for sure i would not recommend any misdemeanour by fans hoping to travel to the next world cup, they may never be seen again!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 12, 2021 18:26:43 GMT
Anyway looking forward, who’s coming to Qatar next year?! Illegal to drink in public. Can see that going well..!! 🤐
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jul 12, 2021 18:35:17 GMT
Anyway looking forward, who’s coming to Qatar next year?! can i stay with you? im fully house trained. Unfortunately I’m not house trained
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jul 12, 2021 18:36:56 GMT
Anyway looking forward, who’s coming to Qatar next year?! Illegal to drink in public. Can see that going well..!! 🤐 To be honest, for a visitor it’ll be pretty hard to sneak your drinks out of the bars/fans zones into public anyway!
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Post by miamigas on Jul 12, 2021 18:38:18 GMT
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Post by gulfofaden on Jul 12, 2021 18:38:54 GMT
Well it seems there are lots of opinions out there on everything from Southgate to Fans behaviour, to much to troll through and being of mature years i can handle these disappointments much better than i would have years ago. I can understand the disappointment a lot are feeling today but i don't understand the abuse aimed at players ,what ever there colour or at the manager. Without going into detail, as others have covered the subject very well, i do not believe we will ever host a major tournament again as long as we continue to tolerate and accept that its ok for followers of football( can't call them fans') to behave in the manner seen at Wembley recently and in a wider sense at grounds up and down the country during the seasons. As for last nights game it is easy to forget what a truly great goal the opener was by England, brilliant counter attack with pace, skill ,vision finished with aplomb! that first 20 mins i thought we had the measure of Italy but for some reason we stopped playing on the front foot, sitting deeper and deeper and from the moment of the equalizer there was only going to be one winner .We have seen it happen at the Mem enough times and i can't explain what happens to the mindset of players which turns them from confident attack minded footballers to frightened Rabbits. I do not think I They wouldn’t want us to host it anyway. This will just give them a convenient excuse.
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Post by gasheadontour on Jul 12, 2021 19:08:23 GMT
Credit to him for saying this.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 12, 2021 19:50:02 GMT
That's the spirit.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 12, 2021 19:53:49 GMT
He's had a great tournament but another one that didn't turn up yesterday. Lost his man for the goal.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 12, 2021 19:54:37 GMT
Credit to him for saying this.
I would say she should apologise but after her last attempt I would tell her not to bother.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jul 12, 2021 20:08:08 GMT
Yeah they definitely lost together Don’t look back in anger all you like Harry but until you win something you’re just a social support group for players who can’t take penalties.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jul 12, 2021 20:18:39 GMT
Credit to him for saying this.
I would say she should apologise but after her last attempt I would tell her not to bother. Well that’s settled then. If we all take the knee enough it will be the end of racist tweets.
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Post by Gassy on Jul 12, 2021 20:31:16 GMT
Yeah they definitely lost together Don’t look back in anger all you like Harry but until you win something you’re just a social support group for players who can’t take penalties. Give it a rest ffs
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 12, 2021 20:32:30 GMT
Yeah they definitely lost together Don’t look back in anger all you like Harry but until you win something you’re just a social support group for players who can’t take penalties. Shall we not bother then?
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 12, 2021 20:35:05 GMT
Yeah they definitely lost together Don’t look back in anger all you like Harry but until you win something you’re just a social support group for players who can’t take penalties. In fairness, they did win something - Respect.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jul 12, 2021 20:44:32 GMT
Yeah they definitely lost together Don’t look back in anger all you like Harry but until you win something you’re just a social support group for players who can’t take penalties. Shall we not bother then? If he’s not literally a broken man after that and tweeting meaningless platitudes then it didn’t hurt enough. This is supposed to hurt. Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jul 12, 2021 20:48:12 GMT
Yeah they definitely lost together Don’t look back in anger all you like Harry but until you win something you’re just a social support group for players who can’t take penalties. In fairness, they did win something - Respect. Nobody remembers runner up. My grandchildren won’t be asking about stories of the final we lost. I can see everyone wants to see the bright side. Good on you all, if you can brush games like that off, great. We never used to. All the teams in the past got kickings. Beckham had effigies burned of him. This year it’s “effort medal” apparently. The world has evidently changed to not the winning that counts, it’s the taking part. It’s hard adjusting.
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Post by Gassy on Jul 12, 2021 20:53:46 GMT
In fairness, they did win something - Respect. Nobody remembers runner up. My grandchildren won’t be asking about stories of the final we lost. I can see everyone wants to see the bright side. Good on you all, if you can brush games like that off, great. We never used to. All the teams in the past got kickings. Beckham had effigies burned of him. This year it’s “effort medal” apparently. The world has evidently changed to not the winning that counts, it’s the taking part. It’s hard adjusting. Ah yeah, the good old days when hooligans would burn photos of players because they lost to a better team. No surprise to see you've played down the violence and in fact all of last nights shenanigans. How about you go to Cabot circus and burn a cardboard cutout of Saka, see where that'll get you. Hey, all in the good nature of competitive sport eh?
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Post by yattongas on Jul 12, 2021 20:59:10 GMT
Nobody remembers runner up. My grandchildren won’t be asking about stories of the final we lost. I can see everyone wants to see the bright side. Good on you all, if you can brush games like that off, great. We never used to. All the teams in the past got kickings. Beckham had effigies burned of him. This year it’s “effort medal” apparently. The world has evidently changed to not the winning that counts, it’s the taking part. It’s hard adjusting. Ah yeah, the good old days when hooligans would burn photos of players because they lost to a better team. No surprise to see you've played down the violence and in fact all of last nights shenanigans. How about you go to Cabot circus and burn a cardboard cutout of Saka, see where that'll get you. Hey, all in the good nature of competitive sport eh? He sounds like a really nice bloke , reading his past posts . 🙄
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