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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 6:37:30 GMT
I'm not getting it either. Nor my wife, brother, dad, most of my cousins(I have a lot of those), sister in nhs-respiratory ward. I've had lots of vaccines over the years. Not sold on this one and am really not appreciating the blackmail campaign. Enjoy your boosters though guys! See ya. It's your call at the end of the day. Listening to Steve Cotterill's account today, it feels like a brave decision if you're over 40. Sure. I haven't listened to it tbh. I have looked and drilled into plenty of stats and speak to people everyday around the country, as the topic often comes up. I don't buy into it and am not falling for the tactics. It is up to each individual to do what they feel is right based on their conclusions. It's pure division again with people falling out and alienating eachother. Just do what you gotta do. If the restaurants and football clubs and travel companies decide to jump onboard with this campaign, my family will adjust our behaviours. Spare a thought for the billions around the world who will be cut off forever. All this whilst 5 million sit on the NHS waiting list(no doubt affects people on here). If we really want to protect the NHS, restrict motorcars acceleration and speed by x% to diminish rta's. So, covid passports at the Mem...nah, not for me. What about the under 17s? Exempt I guess?
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Post by pirate on Jul 14, 2021 6:40:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 7:47:15 GMT
Sure. I haven't listened to it tbh. I have looked and drilled into plenty of stats and speak to people everyday around the country, as the topic often comes up. I don't buy into it and am not falling for the tactics. It is up to each individual to do what they feel is right based on their conclusions. It's pure division again with people falling out and alienating eachother. Just do what you gotta do. If the restaurants and football clubs and travel companies decide to jump onboard with this campaign, my family will adjust our behaviours. Spare a thought for the billions around the world who will be cut off forever. All this whilst 5 million sit on the NHS waiting list(no doubt affects people on here). If we really want to protect the NHS, restrict motorcars acceleration and speed by x% to diminish rta's. So, covid passports at the Mem...nah, not for me. What about the under 17s? Exempt I guess? Presumably you are happy to accept the benefits of society gradually reopening - something which has been achieved by the vast majority getting vaccinated. If everyone had followed your lead we would be in lockdown for years. As for the NHS when have they ever been completely overwhelmed due to RTA’s, forcing them to cancel appointments, operations and investigations?
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Post by Icegas on Jul 14, 2021 7:59:11 GMT
All sounds fair enough to me. Don't want to go and stand with a load of people who haven't been double vaccinated. Masks are hardly a problem to wear in the open air. As a private entity the club has the right to impose whatever restrictions they feel fit. It won't spoil my enjoyment of a game. You do understand that anyone that has not been vaccinated is not a danger to yourself or anyone else right? They are only putting themselves at risk by not having a jab.You have as much chance of infecting them as they do you?
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Post by RD on Jul 14, 2021 8:06:13 GMT
All sounds fair enough to me. Don't want to go and stand with a load of people who haven't been double vaccinated. Masks are hardly a problem to wear in the open air. As a private entity the club has the right to impose whatever restrictions they feel fit. It won't spoil my enjoyment of a game. You do understand that anyone that has not been vaccinated is not a danger to yourself or anyone else right? They are only putting themselves at risk by not having a jab.You have as much chance of infecting them as they do you? Except that's not accurate. At all. It is a FACT that those who are unvaccinated have a higher chance of catching the virus. Ergo the more people around me that are unvaccinated, the higher the probability I will come in to contact with someone who has Covid. By definition, if there is a higher likelihood of me coming in to contact with the virus, I am obviously more at risk. That is an undisputable fact. It's not rocket science. If you don't want to take the vaccine that is your choice. But do not come on here spouting complete b*llocks. Frankly it's dangerous. Educate yourself better if you wish to speak on this matter.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 14, 2021 8:09:27 GMT
You do understand that anyone that has not been vaccinated is not a danger to yourself or anyone else right? They are only putting themselves at risk by not having a jab.You have as much chance of infecting them as they do you? Except that's not accurate. At all. It is a FACT that those who are unvaccinated have a higher chance of catching the virus. Ergo the more people around me that are unvaccinated, the higher the probability I will come in to contact with someone who has Covid. By definition, if there is a higher likelihood of me coming in to contact with the virus, I am obviously more at risk. That is an undisputable fact. It's not rocket science. These anti vax people water me off. Putting more strain on the NHS etc.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 14, 2021 8:29:32 GMT
You can still carry it and pass it on to someone who is a lot more vulnerable. A friend of my family has just died after contracting Covid in nursing home after having both jabs, but was too old to fight it. Fine don't get the jab, but don't expect to be able to do everything you used to do without them. But you can still catch it and carry it if your double jabbed. You can catch it from someone double jabbed in the supermarket. Makes know difference if I’m jabbed or not to anyone. So when you do catch it and you will ,take my word for it, you will be first in line for your NHS treatment, or do you think you are you strong enough to fight it off without treatment..............
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 14, 2021 8:31:03 GMT
Do clubs like us even have the technology to scan vaccine passports? We found it hard enough switching to scanning season cards!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 8:31:17 GMT
You do understand that anyone that has not been vaccinated is not a danger to yourself or anyone else right? They are only putting themselves at risk by not having a jab.You have as much chance of infecting them as they do you? Except that's not accurate. At all. It is a FACT that those who are unvaccinated have a higher chance of catching the virus. Ergo the more people around me that are unvaccinated, the higher the probability I will come in to contact with someone who has Covid. By definition, if there is a higher likelihood of me coming in to contact with the virus, I am obviously more at risk. That is an undisputable fact. It's not rocket science. If you don't want to take the vaccine that is your choice. But do not come on hear spouting complete b*llocks. Frankly it's dangerous. Educate yourself better if you wish to speak on this matter. How is it a fact? Have they put 100 of each in a room and sprayed virus on them type research, or are we going by the sky news scientists again? I'll tell you a fact. I don't know anybody who has perished from covid. That's 18 months of hysteria. I'm one of 12 children with an Irish wife(big family) and not a single fatality. I do know people who have died though, quite a few, probably 10 or so in the same time. Some of these young men from suicide. Before you start mouthing off at me. Just think about that and how my perspective might be different to yours on this. Some people believe in ghosts. I don't because I haven't experienced one. I'm done on this thread.
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Post by RD on Jul 14, 2021 8:36:50 GMT
Except that's not accurate. At all. It is a FACT that those who are unvaccinated have a higher chance of catching the virus. Ergo the more people around me that are unvaccinated, the higher the probability I will come in to contact with someone who has Covid. By definition, if there is a higher likelihood of me coming in to contact with the virus, I am obviously more at risk. That is an undisputable fact. It's not rocket science. If you don't want to take the vaccine that is your choice. But do not come on hear spouting complete b*llocks. Frankly it's dangerous. Educate yourself better if you wish to speak on this matter. How is it a fact? Have they put 100 of each in a room and sprayed virus on them type research, or are we going by the sky news scientists again? I'll tell you a fact. I don't know anybody who has perished from covid. That's 18 months of hysteria. I'm one of 12 children with an Irish wife(big family) and not a single fatality. I do know people who have died though, quite a few, probably 10 or so in the same time. Some of these young men from suicide. Before you start mouthing off at me. Just think about that and how my perspective might be different to yours on this. Some people believe in ghosts. I don't because I haven't experienced one. I'm done on this thread.And rightly so. You are totally and utterly misguided. You really shouldn't speak about things you have no clue about. All you have is an opinion - but spreading misinformation is dangerous. "I'll tell you a fact. I don't know anybody who has perished from covid. That's 18 months of hysteria. I'm one of 12 children with an Irish wife(big family) and not a single fatality.". Well lucky you. There are circa 128,000 people who have died. So based on every single person knowing even 10 people that's well over a MILLION people who have been directly affected by it. FFS even our own Gasheads have perished. You are lucky. Nothing more, nothing less. My statement above is basic knowledge, laced with extremely basic science - it really shouldn't be difficult to grasp. As such, if you're not intellectually capable of understanding the statement I made, we're better off leaving the conversation there. You need to understand that you may have a different perspective, but you can still be wrong. Hopefully this image opens your closed eyes. Both of these people have a perspective. But only one of them can be right - it's either a 6 OR a 9 - irrespective of their individual perspective.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 14, 2021 8:38:00 GMT
Mate , TRUST me when I say , do NOT say anything else about not getting the vaccine , It turns ugly on here real quick and they all turn on you like a pack of wolves 😂 I'm not getting it either. Nor my wife, brother, dad, most of my cousins(I have a lot of those), sister in nhs-respiratory ward. I've had lots of vaccines over the years. Not sold on this one and am really not appreciating the blackmail campaign. Enjoy your boosters though guys! See ya. and if by chance you do succumb to this dreadful virus, who do your family blame, the Govt, Your next door neighbour ? The shame is if you do and i don't want this to happen to you or anybody, you are put into a RED body bag to indicate your are infectious...….. what embarrassment
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Post by bluegas on Jul 14, 2021 8:56:52 GMT
Do clubs like us even have the technology to scan vaccine passports? We found it hard enough switching to scanning season cards! That's what I am wondering. I've been double jabbed but all the proof I have is a small chit giving dates and name of the vaccine. No bar code or whatever. At the moment it looks like they'd have to have someone checking by looking. The turnstile operator? Gonna slow things right down.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 14, 2021 9:07:03 GMT
Mate , TRUST me when I say , do NOT say anything else about not getting the vaccine , It turns ugly on here real quick and they all turn on you like a pack of wolves 😂 I'm not getting it either. Nor my wife, brother, dad, most of my cousins(I have a lot of those), sister in nhs-respiratory ward. I've had lots of vaccines over the years. Not sold on this one and am really not appreciating the blackmail campaign. Enjoy your boosters though guys! See ya. Oh dear. You've dropped right back down in my estimations. Extremely selfish IMO.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jul 14, 2021 9:07:49 GMT
Do clubs like us even have the technology to scan vaccine passports? We found it hard enough switching to scanning season cards! That's what I am wondering. I've been double jabbed but all the proof I have is a small chit giving dates and name of the vaccine. No bar code or whatever. At the moment it looks like they'd have to have someone checking by looking. The turnstile operator? Gonna slow things right down. The small chit you get given when getting the vaccine is not the pass. You will need to request a paper copy pass or access online via the NHS app (where you can also print a paper copy). Details of both are already on this thread. The pass will have a QR code for scanning at a venue.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 14, 2021 9:11:47 GMT
Do clubs like us even have the technology to scan vaccine passports? We found it hard enough switching to scanning season cards! That's what I am wondering. I've been double jabbed but all the proof I have is a small chit giving dates and name of the vaccine. No bar code or whatever. At the moment it looks like they'd have to have someone checking by looking. The turnstile operator? Gonna slow things right down. You can get the barcode off the NHS app quite easily, I’ve only had 1 jab but still have the vaccine passport set up.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 14, 2021 9:13:15 GMT
Well it's a good job everyone doesn't have that selfish mindset or we'd all be screwed. Why not get it, its 2 free little injections and will probably make you feel a lot less sh** if you did get it?? My partners had it. I haven’t. Do you know the long term effects of the vaccination. Better for my kids if 1 of has it and the other doesn’t. Shouldn’t be forcing it on people. Truth be told you dont know what’s wrong and right. I don’t know. The government definitely hasn’t got a clue. Freedom of choice. Just cos I’m in the minority doesn’t make me wrong Unfortunately "freedom of choice" is putting more strain on the NHS and costing lives. Maybe you will be willing to contribute more to the NHS? What's more important "freedom of choice" or helping to save lives. I know which one I will be choosing.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 14, 2021 9:14:43 GMT
This vaccination passport should not be a thing and is a load of bollox. My decision if I get vaccinated or not, think the government needs to stop forcing it on people who choose not to be vaccinated. Why do I need to have a jab when, you’ve had the jab? ? Mate , TRUST me when I say , do NOT say anything else about not getting the vaccine , It turns ugly on here real quick and they all turn on you like a pack of wolves 😂 And rightly so.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 14, 2021 9:17:17 GMT
Here’s a thought, maybe all the anti-vaxx and non-vaccinated could have their own stand? Perhaps a new tent set up somewhere?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 9:22:14 GMT
Here’s a thought, maybe all the anti-vaxx and non-vaccinated could have their own stand? Perhaps a new tent set up somewhere? Great idea, imagine the chanting between the two stands: There would be classics such as: "Your going home in a red body bag" "Your support of the NHS is fking sh1t" "Dirty anti Vaxers" "We all agree, the referees a Fool and there is not enough evidence to support the long term viability of the vaccine"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 9:27:38 GMT
Do clubs like us even have the technology to scan vaccine passports? We found it hard enough switching to scanning season cards! I cant imagine we do. It took ten years to get a big screen in place and now that is broken! Surely it will be easier for the club to make every game all ticket and do the proof of vax stuff before the day of the game?
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